Anti-war people, you claim Iraq is a mess, but are we kicking Al Qaeda's butt, with help from the Iraqi?

Question

Isn't that what the war on terror is all about?

If it's going so badly, why have our casualties been so minimal, and why haven't we been attacked since 9/11/2001?

We've lost about 600 soldiers per year. In WW2 we lost about 100,000 per year.

Mitchel,
How wrong you are. In 1993 a bomb was placed in the basement of the world trade center in an effort to topple the building, which would have taken out dozens of other buildings in NYC when it topples. It just didn't work. There were other attacks against us, but the example I cited should be enough to convince even the slow witted to see you're wrong.

Al Crack, the reason the NIE says they're strong is the same reason a football coach says what a good team he'll be playing against. If we said they're weak, they would be motivated to prove otherwise. But think about it. Bin Laden sends video tapes to us instead of planes. He wants a truce, as does Al Sadr. The Iraqi people are helping us defeat Al Qaeda.

The war is going great, so why are you so discouraged?

October, why do we care if Al Qaeda was there before we entered? They're there now, and we're killing them. They're fighting us there instead of here. They're coming from all over the world, to die in battle and go to heaven and have sex with virgins. We're helping them, and we're helping ourselves. Its a win-win situation.

If the sun shines on July 4, I'll bet you whine that the umbrella sellers are going broke.

Pretzeld - How DARE you use the names of our brave, volunteer soldiers to support our enemy. Every one of these Americans had more patriotism and guts in his left pinky than you do in your whole miserable body.

You say the terrorists have accomplished what they wanted? Us kicking them out of Afganistan, Bin Laden hiding in a cave, us killing them by the dozen in Iraq? They were use to Bill Clinton, who cut and run and dropped a few bombs from 20,000 feet and launched a few cruise missles.

Do you think those soldiers who you named would want you using their names to insure our defeat? If you want to know what our soldiers think, just ask them. I do.

Rick, I assume you're not an American. I wonder what country you're living in, if you can call us "pitiful". If we're so pitiful, why does everyone from all over the world want to come here? Ask Saddam how pitiful we are, o thats right, he was hung. Ask the Taliban how pitiful we are.

There are 2 kinds of people that understand U.S. Marines; other marines, and those that fight against them.

Botsakis,
Where did I say Al Qaeda is the main cause of the voilence in Iraq?

If there is one wolf in a pack that is causing you problems, its best to go after that wolf.

Answer 1

You're right 100%.

As long Bush is our President, I will feel safe.

Say a prayer that a Rep. wins in 08'.

Answer 2

Since when did the US become a referee of the war in Iraq? You Americans (that back Bush) make up insane lies on the fly. You don't give a damn about the facts. America is a pitiful nation.

Lest you forget, the US is the invader. The invasion was founded on lies. The invasion is illegal and, therefor a war crime under the UN charter. The invasion of Iraq is also a criminal act which breaks the law of the US Constitution.

The UN charter is a treaty not a constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/04/MN304485.DTL

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer229/229_hajjar.html

Sasami -- My God. The ignorance. There was NO war in Iraq before you invaded. There was nothing to 'spill over' into Europe and cause a 3rd world war. You are killing thousands of Iraqi civilians and severely wounding thousands more. You are an evil nation.

Why the heck can't you people investigate what is really happening to the poor people of Iraq instead of sitting on the couch with a soda and a bag of chips watching re-runs of the Waltons?

Answer 3

Where is Bin Laden? The fact of the matter is, Al Qaeda is all over the world not just in Iraq. The fact that we haven't been attacked since 9/11 is great but thats hardly anything to brag about since, we hadn't been attacked since Pearl Harbor (except the twin towers attacks in 93'). I'm happy that the country hasn't been attacked since, but US Soldiers are being attacked every day, even though the death rate is lower than in WW2 the amount of people coming home with serious injures is a lot worst (such as brain damage, loss of limbs)

Answer 4

I believe totally in the war, I think we just need to fight harder. Were way stronger than them al qaedas, so we needed to attack them a lot harder than they attacked us. Regardless of how many members they have, they are still less likely to disturb the U.S. because of the intimidation put on by the war. People just don't like it because they need something to ***** about, and those are the people that can't see the reality of things, and they can't see the benefits of anything, all they see is the couple non al qaedas that were killed, and the billions we have spent(we are the most powerful country on earth, we can afford anything, and even if we ran out of money, we still would dominate) and decide they need to complain.

Answer 5

we're "kicking their butts"? really? then why are attacks in iraq happening almost daily? and i wouldn't exactly jump to call the number of american deaths "minimal." tell some of the people who have lost family members and friends in this war, and see if they agree with you that it's worth it. there has been a devastating loss of american lives in iraq, and no one can remember why we're there anymore. bush misled this country into thinking iraq and al-qaeda was behind 9/11. now that we know that's nowhere near true, why are we still there? to clean up the mess we've made. there's nothing successful about what we have done. there's a reason 65% of this country is against the war. use your brain.

Answer 6

You are a bit naive in your understanding of this type of conflict. You can't win this war.

I lived through 30 years of this type of war in Belfast N. Ireland. The British had more troops in N. Ireland than they committed to Iraq and they still couldn't defeat the IRA. The may have caught or killed many IRA members but there were always more willing recruits to take the place of those lost. The same applie to Iraq and anywhere else that Al Qaeda exist. You may kill their troops but there are ten more waiting to sign up for every troop lost. The US military has no idea where the next bomb is going to explode or who is going to fire the next shot. There is no military solution. Your military are chasing shadows in the desert and on the streets of Basra and Baghdad.

You talk of beating Al Qaeda in Iraq but they are strong in many countries throughout the world. They draw on support in every country where Muslims live and I'm sure that includes the US. Bin Laden still hasn't been caught and continues to taunt you.

Why haven't you been attacked since 9/11? Well why would Al Qaeda bother to try to plan something against the mainland US when they have so many targets sitting in the Middle East? It makes no sense. They are grinding you down and dividing opinion in your country, causing internal strife, forcing your leaders to spend billions and billions on defence, on security on eavesdropping and forcing them to strip away the rights you once took for granted. They are making Americans angrier and angrier and more distrustful of their government.

That does not sound like losing to me. That does not sound like getting their butts kicked.

Again, to draw on my own first hand experience of this type of war - it is not the number of soldiers you kill that counts. The damage is calculated in many different ways. The IRA waged a military campaign but also attacked economic targets. The forced the government to spend billions on security, the military, rebuilding bombed buildings and finacial institutions. They also waged a propaganda war which saw support for their cause grow world wide - including in the US where they received finacial and military aid. The N. Ireland conflict became too expensive for the British government, interms of life and material cost.

Al Qaeda know that they will not win over night and not win on the battlefield alone. They are attacking the US militarily and finacially and with their propaganda. They are prepared to stay the course because the US simply can't afford to! You will lose. It may not be today or this year, or next but you will eventually withdraw having gained nothing and lost much.

PS I just saw your comment about asking the Taliban how pitiful you are. Well they are back and attacking in greater numbers. They still haven't been defeated.

Answer 7

I think you are misinformed. Better stop listening to American propaganda media and start listening to more independent media sources. Who told you that Al Qaeda is the main cause of the violence in Iraq? GW Bush?. If you take a look at the overall violence happening in Iraq, Al Qaeda accounts to only one-sixth of all the violence. There are a total of eleven Iraqi militant insurgent groups throughout Iraq involved in the sectarian violence (the Sunnis and the Shias by far the dominant groups), with each group trying to gain power over the others, each one trying to dominate in their own turfs. But GW Bush and the US military were always quick to point fingers at Al Qaeda for every car-bombing, suicide bombing, and death of US troops although much of these were perpetrated by the insurgents. While Al Qaeda would only be too glad to take the credit for such attacks (they don't need to sacrifice any of their own members to get the outcome they wanted), these only emboldened the insurgents to intensify their own attacks with impunity, knowing that they can always get away with it, with Al Qaeda taking the blame as always.

This is the main reason why the US would eventually fail in its mission in Iraq. As long as the US uses Al Qaeda as its reason for staying in Iraq, without addressing the real root causes of the sectarian conflict and the ongoing civil war, its efforts are doomed to failure. After all, beating Al Qaeda in Iraq will fix only one-sixth of the problem. So, it wouldn't help to chase only one wolf in a pack of wolves.

Answer 8

WW2 we did to eliminate the axis power because Hitler like to perform genocide on other races. While eliminating the Nazi, we also liberated France. basically what US did during WW2 actually helped multiple countries...and i don't think they have Satellite imaging, gps, ICBM, artillery tanks, UAV, C4s, guiding missiles...................etc back in WW2..so is pretty reasonable to see 100000 die. I'm not saying not attacking Iraq..heck, if someone came in and ask for war, as the leader of the country, by all means, let's give them a war...but the method US is using is not as effective because of the ethics and moral values...if it is a war, there is no such thing as ethics and values, soldiers still kill people with guns right?

Answer 9

Haha that's funny. We are not kicking any butt, sorry. The war on terror is a bunch of crap. I guess the war on drugs didn't work out so we needed another war to spend billions on. Another attack will come. Probably when we have a democratic president after next election. And of course the Republicans will say I TOLD YOU SO, while Dem's will blame it on Bush.

Answer 10

"you claim Iraq is a mess" (?) it IS a mess.

we are kicking al Qaeda's butt?

then why are they as strong as they were 6 years ago? we didn't go into Iraq to fight al Qaeda.

I hope we win, but I was against the Iraq War from the planning stages. Afghanistan made sense, that's where the terrorists were. Iraq is a disaster. Again I hope we win and we can't just leave, but even Petreaus said we can't kill every enemy in Iraq, it's impossible.

Answer 11

The road to success in Iraq is a slow and tedious one. However we are winning the battle. We cannot leave. If we left the region, the unrest and instability would spill over into EUROPE, and definitely begin a third WORLD WAR. Let's just support our president in these trying times. If we knew best, we would be president right now, wouldn't we? Let's go TROOPS. Keep Kicking BUTT!!! USA-USA-USA-USA-USA...