Paul was a nut. As a former Christian, I have to say that I have little use for anything he said in the NT. He never knew Jesus, except from a bad hallucination, and just started dreaming up all kinds of crazy rules and prohibitions that I'm not sure Jesus ever would have accepted.
I'm sure the Paulists will thumbs-down this one. That's fine. Paulism is not Christianity as Jesus would have wanted it. Google "Jefferson Bible," and you'll start to understand.
2007-09-13 01:21:54
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answered by Cap'n Zeemboo 3
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There was never a change to the way we must obey God. The gospel message is that when you are ready to give your life to God...all your sin is atoned for. Paul's Gospel account is valid in that we should be living our lives according to the Spirit but the law still applies to us but not out of fear or loathing of it...through love and understanding of the sacrifice made on our behalf..those laws should seem beautiful to us. Paul talks about the struggle between our flesh and the Spirit and how keeping the law won't save us...because we can't keep it. The law is still there for us but we cannot trust it to make us free of sin..if it could then we wouldn't need the blood of Christ to atone. However, to trample on that atonement by selfishly sinning with intent...breaking the commandments after hearing and recieving the truth...the fulness of the truth...leaves no atonement. That is what the Christian must understand from scripture and discover themselves so that they do not fall trap to the teachings of men who would have it either once saved always saved no matter how much you sin against God or the other extreme which is that the letter of the law must be followed in order for the blood of Christ to be of any use to us. The first is inconcievable and the second is impossible. You must trust and obey..these are the keys to salvation. Love in Christ, ~J~
2007-09-13 01:46:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Hopefully you are aware that most of the writings of Paul predate the Gosepls which record the Sermon on the Mount. He wrote between 48AD and his death in 67 AD. The first three gospels appeared in the late 60's or early 70's AD.
So the "gospel" as taught by Paul is actually earlier in it teachings and its explaination of "primitive" (mean the original way it was taught) Christianity then the Sermon on the Mount.
If you read through the Gospel of Luke, you will find that Luke includes over a dozen phrases in the teachings of Jesus that are taken from the writings of Paul. (Actually, Paul in his writings is quoting Jesus, but Paul recorded those teachings before Luke or the other Gospel writers did).
There is no difference in the teachings between what Paul taught and what Jesus taught. However, there was a difference in audience between who Paul was addressing in his letters and who Jesus was addressing in that teaching.
The Sermon on the Mount is found in Matthew chapter 5-7. If you read the opening verses, you will find that Hollywood gets this wrong every time. They show Jesus teaching this to a huge crowd of thousands. The Bible states that Jesus withdrew himself from the multitude, and called his disciples (the 12) to him and taught this sermon to only them. (Read it some time)
This was not a message given to "everyone". but a special teaching session to people who had already made a committment to follow Jesus and need instuctions on how to live that out day to day.
Paul's letters, however. are addressed to the "multitude". They were written to everyone in the church, not just the committed inner core. So they include the information about the need for salvation, and the sacrifice of Jesus. Not everyone hearing Paul's word knew about that yet.
Plus if you expand your reading to include ALL of the Gospels, and not just 3 chapters, you will find that Jesus spoke frequently to his disciples about his upcoming sacrifical death for sin. It was just not the topic of that specific teaching teaching session. Nor will you find the topics of the Sermon on the Mount in amny of Jesus' other teaching sessions.
There is no contradiction between the writings of Paul and the words of Jesus. You might be able to one sentence from Jesus on one subject and compare it to one sentence from Paul on a difference subject and find something that could appear to be different. But when you take the time to read the whole thing, you find no contradictions between them.
2007-09-13 01:48:32
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answered by dewcoons 7
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Jesus gave the sermon on the mount prior to His crucifixion and resurrection. They were still living under the Law of Moses.
Paul wrote - by revelation from God - AFTER the resurrection. Jesus cried out, "IT IS FINISHED!", and so the Law was once and for all time for all people everywhere fully satsified.
John 1 says that the Law came through Moses, but grace came through Jesus Christ.
Law and Grace can NOT live together. There is no room for Grace where Law lives. Hebrews explains that quite sufficiently, so I won't quote the entire book of hebrews at this time, but it does point out that if the Law could provide Life, then there would be no need for a second, better covenant. The Hebrew Scriptures describes the new covenant by talking about a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek, in which "I will write my Laws in your heart" The Law required continuous sacrifices, but Jesus Christ, "The Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world" (spoken by John the Baptist) was sacrificed once for all." "For there is no remission of sins without the shedding of blood."
If Paul was wrong, then so was Luke, for Luke talked about Paul's conversion in his writings to Theophilus in the book of the acts of the early church.
John the beloved, who rested on Jesus' chest at the last supper, also agrees with Paul, so you have to throw his writings out, as well. He wrote the book of the revelations while on the isle of Patmos, and the sacrifice is mentioned there, also.
Of course, as I intimated above, John the baptist would be ruled out as well.
How many MORE pages do you have to tear out of the Bible? Isaiah spoke of a suffering Messiah, so did Daniel.
Why not just throw away the entire Bible, since you don't believe any of it anyway?
But before you do, here's a word of warning from Revelations: "Whoever removes anything, their names will be removed from the Lamb's Book of Life." So, do so at your own risk and peril!
But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord Jesus Christ because He DID make the ultimate sacrifice for our salvation, "For there is no other name given among men whereby we can be saved."
It's amazing how much light the Bible sheds on everybody's personal commentaries.
2007-09-13 01:32:27
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answered by no1home2day 7
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Salvation comes by grace and not by works so no man can boast, but when the Holy Spirit comes inside of us we change and sin starts dropping off and our works become the works of what Christ would want. The Holy Spirit purifies and refines us and gets us ready. Every Christian has these good works because the Holy Spirit within us can only portray good works. He even tells us to "do not get weary in doing good." The Lord wants to be foremost in our hearts and minds as Christ said to Martha that Mary had chosen the good thing and not works.
Apostle Paul did not change anything that Christ taught. He explained it so we could understand how he dealt with it.
2007-09-13 01:33:52
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answered by Jeancommunicates 7
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The Sermon on the Mount is organic regulation, and could't shop a single soul. that's purpose is to make you provide up, andpersistent you to Jesus for salvation as a unfastened present. the only thank you to be saved and bypass to heaven and not the eternal lake of hearth is thru believing in this life that Jesus, who's God, died for our sins on the bypass and rose lower back (one million Corinthians 15:one million-4). have confidence this and pray to Jesus and ask Him to maintain you. he will as we talk!
2016-12-16 18:59:36
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answered by ? 4
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No...the only way to be saved is to accept Jesus into our hearts...no ifs, ands, or buts...about it...God gave Paul the words to write in the bible so that we may know them
2007-09-13 01:28:06
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answered by Anonymous
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No.......
Paul echoed what Christ told us.
Salvation is by grace & faith.....and not by works. And that we should not go on sinning......or in his words, "Shall we continue in sin? Certainly not"
2007-09-13 01:23:01
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answered by primoa1970 7
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No.
2007-09-13 01:22:46
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answered by oldguy63 7
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