For believers... at one time you must have thought about who or what created god. How do you deal with this?

Question

I concede that believers believe in god, which is fine and dandy, but its impossible as a human to not, even for a fraction of a second, entertain the question of where did your god come from.

Now most theists respond with something like, "god is eternal", or "god is everything" which sounds great until you get really honest with yourselves and ask, "is this REALLY a satisfying answer?"

I'm not saying you don't believe it, or that your faith isn't strong, but does it FEEL comfortable? Isn't there a nagging part of you that wants to know how or why your god came about? Or, can you simply squash this question with, "god has always existed" every time you feel it rise, and not feel cheated?

Also, do you think your god is sentient, and if so, wouldn't a god which purposely created other sentient beings also have the capacity to question it's own existence, it's purpose, and perhaps even it's own demise?

Does your god wonder how it came to be, or if it could end itself if it wanted?

Answer 1

Yes, I have pondered it, many times. It is not a sin, nor a lack of faith. I ponder other similar questions too: like, how did come to be the way he is? How long has he pondered his plan of creation? And others.

When I try to stretch my mind back to the beginning of infinity (an obviously impossible task), I DO get uncomfortable. And each time I come to pretty much the same conclusion: in order for anything to exist now (or ever), something has had to ALWAYS exist (this is true even for Atheists). Since there is evidence of intelligent design in the present structure of the universe, I take that as evidence that that "something" also had/has intelligence (of course, this is where Atheists diverge), as well as the power to bring about and manipulate all that he desires.

As God has inspired his saints to contemplate and write about his "everlasting" existence, it must be something that God is aware of. He doesn't have to contemplate his beginning or end; he KNOWS that he has always existed and always will. It is only OUR limited minds that can't comprehend it (Ecclesiastes 3:11).

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Hebrews 7:3 -- "...having neither beginning of days nor end of life..."

King David contemplates on God's eternal existence:
Psalms 90:2 -- Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 -- "He has put eternity in their [man's] hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.

Isaiah 57:15 -- For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: "I dwell in the high and holy place, With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Acts 15:18 -- "Known to God from eternity are all His works.

Answer 2

Ok yes I've thought about origins of all existence and gone with the God is eternal and everywhere stance, and it is satisfying. The other option is just to go as far back in time as you can possibly imagine, and pinpoint some kind of fundamental scientific phenomenom that occured and started the creation of the universe. But then you still have to go farther back and try and figure out what occured to make THAT phenomenon happen, and so on forever - THAT is an unsatisfying answer to me!
I think our sentience is flawed compared to that of God - questioning, struggling to create and reach goals for ourselves, wondering about our demise and what happens next, the search for what is right and good, are the lot of humans and other sentient beings that may be out there; God's sentience is for guiding, creating, setting things in motion according to something that is inherently right and good.
Hope this answer doesn't make us God-believers seem too crazy!

Answer 3

If you pick up a bible.. the answer to your question will be in there. Do we as believers wounder where God came from yes! But we also wounder about one million another things. Basically what I am saying is that God is the beginning and the end. He's always been there! Just pick up a bible and read Gen 1:1- In the begining God created the heavens and the Earth.. that shows that there was nothing before him. Then read Revelations..I am the beginning (Genises) and I am the End (Revelations).

Answer 4

I agree with the others that it is not something that can be fully understood or explained while here on earth. Because the Lord has shown me over and over that I can trust Him, I believe His Word when He says that He has no beginning and no end. I feel perfectly comfortable with this. It's not that I never doubt or wonder about these things, but it's no different than being a child. Your trusted parent understands things that you do not. They explain as much as you can handle and leave the rest for later.

As for how this could be, I think the most truthful answer anyone can give is I don't know.

Answer 5

Nope never cared it is kind of like asking a believer in Evolution or the Big bang, have they ever thought about the weak position they are in. I mean they say 2 dust molecules collided and bang the Universe was born...so can they tell you where the 2 dust molecules came from? None that I have asked can. But does that trouble them Nope it keeps them lulled into believing that there is no God and thus they will not go to Hell. Truth is that there is a God and you the Big Bang is a BIG LIE.

Answer 6

God is an eternal being, no ending, no beginning. For us it's kind of impossible to imagine such a thing, so take a piece of rope tie it to an arrow at each edge, then shoot both simuntaneously, after that with a pen make a vertical line on the rope. The line is your live, the rope is eternity, you can't see where it began or where it will end. Your friend from Brazil.

Answer 7

He was only 6 days old when he made us. We're like, God's kindergarten finger painting project or something. I'm sure he'll do much better the next time he takes a crack at the Creation of All Things. He's matured quite a bit since his angsty teenage years when he was always smiting everyone who didn't worship him. Give the guy a break. After all, nobody's perfect. Wait a minute...

Answer 8

I think the question is fair and well formed.
Yes. As a person of faith I have questioned the logic of God.
I concluded ;
We are finite and think of things as such. Although they are not necessarily so. We are distinctly material and naturally assume that matter is a prerequisite for consciousness. Not necessarily the case. I find the universe even the small amount that has been "discovered" is impossible for me to comprehend. I have no hope of ever being able to fit into my mind all that we know. Let alone all that there is. Sentience is required for us to have free will. Doubt allows us to think and choose.

Answer 9

I find it much easier to believe in God always being than matter always being. Or for that matter, matter suddenly having a beginning. For there to be a sudden change some outside force would have had to have acted upon it. God being spirit isn't confined by physical restrainsts or by our mens ability or disability to grasp these concepts. Edit The person above fails to realize that God did not create himself because he is a being not a thing.

Answer 10

And ANOTHER BLATANT attempt to get believers to think for themselves.

For Shame.

God is a comfortable Absolute, albeit an extremely and purposely vague one.

There is a reason that Believers get angry with Science... it puts it to them: understand how the REAL world works or show yourself as unable or uninterested.

God is convenience: once you say that God did it, what more is there to ask, - how, why? Who cares: God did it.