Pastors--a must needed answer--Blacklisting?

Question

Is there anything like a blacklist in your area?

For example, if you know of someone who has been involved with the destruction of a church--i.e. a witch, satanist or even a "difficult" christian--if a pastor from another church asked you about this person would you tell them?

What policies do you have in regards to someone like this? Is there an actual "blacklist" in your area to warn others against certain people?

Father K--if you had personally experienced a person who you felt was a "danger" to the children of God you would warn anyone away? That interesting.

Oldguy--Thanks for the answer--so have you ever personally let another pastor or church know about a person who causes church havoc?

satansawaiting???
What's a dobber and dobbing? (Fishing line/bob?)
I don't understand you meaning?

TroothBTold--
What IF a "christian" were blacklisted because of gossip? WHAT IF a real, dyed-in-the-wool christian was having lies told about them and this is causing the person to be treated like a wolf when they aren't?

How would someone on either side of this issue address it? How would you know, as a leader, that what you're being told is the absolute truth about this person?

LocustFire--same question as Old man--What if a person were "blacklisted" by churches they visited and everyone thinks they're "crazy", etc. but they're just a sincere christian? How would you KNOW that the gossip you heard is factual and if this happened to you how would you address it?

Answer 1

Although not a "church", per se, I do run my own ministry, a large part of which is a recovery group for ex-cultists. There have been a couple of occassions when I have found it necessary to ask that a person resign when I have discovered that they were a cultist in sheep's clothing intent on dragging others into their warped theology.

The last thing I want is to see any of the people I'm trying to help fall out of the frying pan and into the fire. To that end, I also feel duty bound to constantly research the newest false doctrines and warped belief systems so that I can refute them and steer away our new Christians, who are still trying to conform to sound doctrine.

When Jesus used the illustration of a shepherd watching over the sheep, he did so with good reason: the wolves are always on the prowl and it is our duty to protect them because we are given that commission by the Great Shepherd, Jesus Christ. To the extent that the shepherd is unable or unwilling to do so, is the extend to which the wolves are able to make short work of the flock.

Answer 2

You can view this two ways. 1) you can view it from the narrow-minded, bible-thumping, eyes of a Christian. you say he had all the qualifications, save one. That one, could have been filled by a much more qualified person (in dire straits or not), and would have been honest and fair. you and your husband stole that job. or 2) you can view it from the open-minded, world-living, eyes of a common man. You were in dire straits, your family really needed the job. you two got the job, whether fair or unfair it doesn't matter. What matters is that now you can not only support your family, you can give to those who are in dire straits. Some may say, a blessing in disguise. -----If you like to think, keep reading. If you don't like to think, skip down It all depends on what school of thought you prefer. Let me explain. There is a saying that goes: THE MEANS JUSTIFY THE ENDS which means, if you did a good job of trying and planning and testing, even if it doesn't work and is a failure, it is considered good a good job. There is another saying that goes: THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS which means, one can do anything, even what is considered a crime or a sin, if the end result is just what you wanted, then the "crime or sin" is justified, as if you never committed it. The question is, which are you? ---Skip to here Personally, I like to think, by what I read, that you were deserving of receiving that job. If the dire straits were harsh or long enough to seriously considering bankruptcy and life in the gutter, then I would consider that a job, any job would be helpful. If so, your son needs to understand that we are in a sometimes unfair, "evil" world, where dog-eat-dog is the rule to survive, and unfair things happen. If, however, the job continues to be a source of dissent, angry feelings, or if you REALLY believe that the job your husband took was actually stealing, then I would consider going away from that job and finding one somewhere else. BUT KNOW THIS: if your husband is an honest worker, who receives what he has earned, then he is not stealing the money. The money is earned by work, it is not a reward for getting the job in the first place. So your son is wrong in that aspect. The money you are receiving right now is the result of the work done by your husband. It is not the result of " oh, congratulations, You got the job! Here, let me give you $$$$per month/week just for getting the job." Thus technically, you and your son must not fret over the money being earned. Also: TAKE THE REMAINING COURSE, before the bosses find out.

Answer 3

Oh oh, here we have a dobber! a person who thinks that they are going to get a bronze star for dobbing on another human.If the church runs true to form ? it will hand the matter
to the Law, and it will go to court ? the offender will get a rap across the knuckles and a small fine.
Then when everything is settled enough he will redo what it was he did in the first place ! So by all means Blacklist this person,and see where it goes ?

Answer 4

I don't think normal churches consider satanists or witches as threats. There are some crazy people in the church, that can really mess things up, then leave and go to another church.. because they're crazy. And sometimes you know them before they get there and sometimes you do... people talk of course.

Churches, mostly are communities. They are secret societies, they don't watch over people, most have two populations that use them, regular members and occasional members. I know a lot of churches do not allow members to gain power too quickly until they've been a regular member for sometime.. but that's mostly because of crazies who come in very zealous for a month, then want to be on the church board. Since churches are primarily voluntary, they do find ways to keep things in good hands.

Answer 5

I have been a deacon for some time, working closely with pastors and the flock as well. It is important for leadership to know what they are up against, but not so they can "blacklist" anyone. It is the pastor's job to protect the flock and if a troublemaker is there, he should be aware of it. Especially, if the party claims to be a Christian, who would possibly go as far as to lead some astray.

We need to have open doors. Does that mean we let sin in, too? Sinners, yes...sin, no. Lost sheep, yes...wolves, no.

Answer 6

That's crazy. I've been in ministry 20 plus years, all over the country, and never heard of anything like that. There have been times in a small town where we get word that someone is trying to scam churches, but nothing like what you're talking about. I know most churches today also do background and criminal checks on staff and people who regularly volunteer with children.

Answer 7

1) No.

2) No.

3) No.

We're in the business of saving sinners....not hosting dinner parties for saints.

Answer 8

dobber - informant or traitor

The idea is keep your mouth shut.

And certain sects depend on secrecy!

The devil walks among these!!

Answer 9

In my Christian community, any woman who speaks during a church meeting is asked to leave immediately and is told that she is not welcome until she learns her proper role as stipulated in God's law.

Answer 10

No. Certainly we would pass information on.