My son is very shy when he gets asked questions he shuts down. This is him that is how he is. His teacher keeps insisting that he is to young for kindergarten he is 4 he will be 5 on oct. 8th. His father and I both agree that he is fine that he will do fine but he needs some time to adjust. HE"S JUST A KID. His teacher is very strict and we don't care for her much. we think that if we pull him out it will be the same next year. I really don't think one more year is going to matter cause this is who he is. so on to the question. CAN HIS TEACHER LEGALY KICK HIM OUT?
2007-09-12 13:47:37 · 17 answers · asked by Kacey D 3 in Pregnancy & Parenting ➔ Grade-Schooler
just a quick note i'm a stay at home mom i am with him 24/7 i know what my child is and is not capable of. ALso he went to preschool and his teacher told us that he is ready for kindergarten. But this particular teacher is being lazy she says that he isn't doing well cause most of the other kids are almost 6. In my mind that means that my child has to pay because most other parents are to clingy to send their kids to school when it's ok to. THat would not FLY when i was a kid. you went to school if you hit the cut off date PERIOD.
2007-09-12 14:07:21 · update #1
for the people who say he may be to young. and to consider holding him back he has started school and likes it. I told him today if he doesn't behave he will be kicked out of school he was so sad. don't you think it would be detramental to him to be taken from school where he already has friends and enjoys his time there? Don't you think that's mean? The cut off date is Dec. 1st if they don't like young kids maybe they should change that.
2007-09-12 14:22:15 · update #2
no she cant if they let him in she cant just kick him out if I were you I would talk to the school and see if he can switch teachers if not he will hate school , she sounds so mean.
2007-09-12 13:56:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No, the teacher can't kick him out of school but she can make a big difference in his life. Explain to her she is going to have to be more patient with your son as he IS younger than the other kids. Academically he may be ready for school but the shyness comes from age and the fact that he hasn't been around a lot of other people without you, his mom. He sounds like he likes school, don't pull him out, he will think he did something wrong. Kids are not little grown ups, they always think its about them. If he is a shy boy then he just is and she should be dealing with it accordingly. If you still get no response when you talk to her, tell the principal what the problem is. I'm a teacher myself, some kids and teachers are just not a good fit.
2007-09-12 23:05:38 · answer #2 · answered by susan b 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have 2 friends that are having the same exact problem that you are with the kindergarten teacher at our school both of the children went to pre-school and they both tested k-5 ready but the teacher keeps sending home notes saying 'not ready for school' or 'this is not a daycare, keep her home or enroll her in daycare' I think it all adds up to the class rooms are too full! This class has 22 kids. Can you imagine trying to teach that many? And when one of them is taking an extra 10 min. to comprehend what is being taught then well........they are just not ready! Or so says the teacher, but only because she doesn't have the time to take time for one kid!
2007-09-12 17:21:54 · answer #3 · answered by in His image 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No...every state is different with regards to "cut off date" for kindergarten. Some cut off in September, others in October, and some as late as December. If your son is born before the cut off date the teacher can't do anything...but I'd watch her...b!tches like that are worse than other kids when it comes to hurting children.
Ex. Say you have a girl that's born May 22, 2002. Then you adopt a boy that's born Oct 22, 2002. If the "cut off date" in your state is Oct 15...this means that the girl goes into kindergarten in Fall 2007, and the boy starts Fall 2008.
The date by which time the child MUST have turned 5 in order to enroll in Kindergarten is set by the state or by the school district. Teachers have no authority over this.
hope that helps
*cheers*
2007-09-12 14:03:39 · answer #4 · answered by Osmei 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-05-18 01:39:21 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, legally, she cannot kick him out if he falls within the state's cutoff date (where I live, they have to be 5 by Sept. 1).
However, something to consider is whether being with THIS teacher, if she keeps saying he doesn't need to be there and is being difficult, will effect how he feels about school for the next 13 years or so.
I would suggest having a conference with you and his dad, the teacher, the principal, and the counselor. Have your say and actually listen to theirs. Then work out an agreement based on what everyone says that is truly for the best interests for your son. Keep in mind that they have experience with hundreds of kids that age, so even though every parent knows their child and should fight for them, it actually makes some sense to listen to the more experienced people, too, and try to decide objectively if you are making the decision based on what you WANT your son to be ready for instead of what your son is ACTUALLY ready for.
My son's birthday is in late July, and he's a little immature for his age. He's only four, but we're already considering holding him back a year.
Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to get at odds with the teacher this early on. Her reaction could be worse for your kid than what he was going through before anything started up.
Do what you need to, of course, but try to keep civil with the person who will be with your son seven hours, five days a week, for the next 40 weeks.
2007-09-12 14:15:47 · answer #6 · answered by CrazyChick 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
My daughter started kindergarden when she was 4 as well, she is now 6 in the 2nd grade, I did not have this problem but I think I can help. First of all can he write the whole alphabet? Spell/write his name, first and last? Count to 100 by both 1's and 10's. Can he write and recognize all numbers 1-50? Can he add simple numbers by himself (no coaching from you :-) Can he read simple words such as "the" "what" "so" etc.? Does he know all his colors? If he can do the simple mechanics, then he will be fine, but if he is struggling in even one of the above areas then you should take him out. I was lucky by the time my daughter got to kindergarden at the age of 4 she was doing all of the above plus reading. I also know how proud it makes you to have a child who is advanced, but that is your pride and it may not be the best for him. My daughter is now in the 2nd grade and doing very well actually better than most of her class, she can multiply, add multiple digit numbers, and is working with fractions and is currently reading The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe by herself. It makes me so proud to see her but I see what she goes through being teased for being so young, all of her other classmates are 8 or 9, she will not be 7 until much later in the year and is much smaller than the rest of the class! So put your pride to the side and listen to the teacher, she knows what she is doing, he may not be ready yet, I know you think he is very smart, and he probably is but he may not be ready! Just think about it and if you have any more questions feel free to email me! Oh and even if she does not kick him out she can hold him back. Good luck!
*One more thing he will always have to be better and smarter than the rest of his class, the teachers are always going to look at him to be the one to "mess up" or "not meet standards" (believe me I know) it is not easy having an advance child even though it is a blessing, my daughter does her home work and then we work on "fun work" which really is more home work I made for her, just to stay ahead of the curve. We do work at night for hours just to make sure she is smarter than every one cause all eyes will be on her for being so young as will they be on your son so if you think both you and he can handle it then go for it. I will tell you it takes determination and time if you have the time and the patients you can make it work, if you don't then he will be the one to pay the price. My daughter thinks math and school work is fun, so I got really lucky she does not mind studying! Even if he is able to do the kindergarden work do you think he can handle 1st, 2nd, 3rd....? Right now my daughter has math problems such as:
___ + 18+12=41
that is basic algebra (believe it or not). (thank God she understands it but do you think your son will, be honest) She also has to memorize 15 spelling words a week and they are not 4 or 5 letter words either! The work may be easy in kindergarden but if he is not ready you will see it in the 2nd grade. I hope you have the same luck!
2007-09-12 15:14:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I have decided to keep my son back a year. He is still 4, turning 5 next week. I contemplated holding him back as he is very intellegent with Mathmatics, but shy towards others. My principal gave me some wonderful points...being the youngest...look years down the line...smaller than the other boys playing athletics and therefore competing against boys a yr older....girls will also notice his youth, as boys mature later when it comes for the girlfriend times....it isn't soo bad holding him back, as if it's a good school, if next yr when he starts kindergarten and is advanced in a certain subject, they can put him in a gifted class. Teachers can not kick your son out, if it's a public school, private...they have that right to. I'm thrilled with the decision to hold my son back now. It's one more yr to enjoy him before his new life starts...he'll be in school for many yrs to come....enjoy this time with him now!
2007-09-12 14:14:23 · answer #8 · answered by X Ray Tech and Mother 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If your state has a minimum age requirement to start kindergarten, then yes, the teacher can legally kick him out. In my state a child must be 5 by Sept. 1 in order to attend kindergarten, and we must provide proof of their day of birth when we register them.
You may want to consider waiting one more year. My son was very shy too. In his preschool class for 4-year-olds, he did not speak to the teachers until March! But he was much better in kindergarten. His birthday is in mid-September. He turned 6 only three weeks after kindergarten started. But being the oldest in the class has its advantages- he is more mature and has less trouble academically than the kids who are born later in the school year. He is physically more coordinated and developed, and he is more talented in sports than the younger kids in his class as well.
If the teacher thinks he is not ready, then he probably isn't. It will be a difficult year for all of you if you don't consider her opinion. He will dread going to school, the teacher will have a difficult time dealing with him, his classmates will get frustrated with him, and you will have to deal with it all year. Plus, it will get him off to a bad start in school- he will always have a reputation of being immature.
You say you don't like the kindergarten teacher anyway, so why not put him in a preschool class for now? He may always be shy, but it may be better for him in the long run, to start kindergarten when he is ready. Good luck with your decision.
2007-09-12 14:13:51 · answer #9 · answered by I Should Be Cleaning My House 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have really shy kids, too, and I wouldn't necessarily agree with the people who seem to think that in one more year your son will suddenly not be shy anymore (although it's true it may be a little bit easier). Does he warm up to teachers eventually (do you think in a month he'll be answering questions)? If so, insist on keeping him where he is.
If not, he may be in for a really tough year, and you might want to consider pulling him out for a year -- not just to keep him in a holding pattern, but to really concentrate on helping him with his social skills (and possibly also helping him learn to write so he'll be able to convey to teachers that he knows the answer even if he's not saying it out loud). Of course he's entitled to be in kindergarten, but it sounds like his biggest challenge right now is one that kindergarten won't help him with ... and if he can't communicate with teachers they are not going to realize his potential and he may end up hating school, which is the worst possible scenario. Plus, it is probably easier to demand a different teacher if you pull him out than it is to switch classes mid-year, as that throws off class totals etc..
If you decide not to pull him out, talk to the teacher (politely) about the fact that your son is anxious and being really tough on him is probably just making him more anxious. Odds are he's more likely to talk sooner if he's relaxed. Make sure the teacher knows what skills he has (if necessary, bring in a video of him doing stuff at home like identifying letters, numbers, etc., so she realizes what he's capable of) Talk to both the teacher and the principal about alternative strategies for assessing your son if he isn't answering questions orally. You may find some help at www.selectivemutism.org even if your son isn't completely mute at school (if he is, definitely check out the site).
2007-09-13 01:14:06 · answer #10 · answered by ... 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In our district, they have to be 5 by the first of September, and many say, especially with boys, that they should be held back even if they have late SUMMER birthdays. I would, were it me, send him to one year of preschool before Kindergarten! He won't be older than the other kids, there are MANY kids with October birthdays who start school at 5!
2007-09-12 17:34:55 · answer #11 · answered by alwew3april 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋