is this guy for real??reckons he's been to heaven,hell & met jesus?

Question

my son got given a flyer today advertising a 'talk' at a church by this guy who reckons that he'd been stung by a box jellyfish & had died for a short time & whilst dead he had visited heaven,hell & met jesus!! does anyone know who this crazy guy is?? is he for real?? ppl don't actually believe him do they??

Answer 1

Don't let it worry you, there are millions of fundies out there that tell those kinds of stories.

Answer 2

As any old hippie can tell you, the man simply had a hallucination and is too naive to know it. Becoming unconscious and being resuscitated is not death, not even close. He probably sincerely imagines he had a near death experience, and he may have actually come close, but he didn't actually die.

Clinical death involves cessation of breathing and heart beat. It is merely the first in a series of steps in the process of dying. A person isn't biologically dead until after rigor mortis causes all the ATP in their body to decompose into ADP. The entire process of dying requires many hours and thankfully we'll all be completely unconscious after the first couple minutes.

I've twice had a face to face encounter with God Himself and we talked at great length about many things. The experience seemed utterly real and totally authentic. I don't claim to have had a religious experience because I used artificial means to induce the visions. The first time I took too much LSD and the second time I ate no food nor drank any liquids for three and a half days. (I'm lucky I didn't kill myself.) Nevertheless, a hallucination is just that, a vision originating within a living brain. People who have "visions" are looking at nothing but the working of their own minds -- period.

Answer 3

I don't know about this guy in particular, but there are many cases where people have had what they call an "NDE", or "Near Death Experience". They were clinically dead but then were revived and had met
with other dead relatives and friends. Often
they had a guide with them and were shown
things and told things.
Is it true? I don't know, I've never been dead before....
I can tell you that a Doctor back in the early 70's named Dr. Moody, wrote a book called "Life after Life"; in the book, he gave the stories of several people who had these
NDE's. I went to one of the official NDE Meetings which come together once a month just outside Philadelphia, PA -
All of the people written in that book were
there, and I wouldn't have been able to sit in except by special permission I had received.
I lost 11 close family members and all of my pets - in a 9 day period; so because of that, they allowed me entrance to the meeting. I was having a hard time dealing with it -
Anyway, I thought they would be a bunch of nutcases - but they were just the opposite.
They were professional people, very grounded, very kind and straight-forward.
None of them wore a wrist-watch, which I
found interesting. They all had very different experiences, with only a few things in common. One lady had her experience when she was 5 years old and tried to commit suicide by riding her sled down a snowy hill onto a highway full of traffic.
She was given the choice whether to come back or stay there dead, and she doesn't recall why she chose to come back, only that she knows it was very, very necessary.
And, she came back even though she would have to continue with 6 more years of being abused by both mother and father - verbally, physically and sexually.
When she awoke in the hospital bed, her father had just arrived, and pulled out her
IV tubes and made her walk the entire 5 miles back home with hospital slippers and no coat, in the snow and ice - broken bones and all. She was the most incredible person I've ever met. Today she councils
very young people who have been the victims of the most severe of abuse. If you are one of the top 5 most severely abused
children, chances are you would have met
her - was that the reason she was to come back? I don't know, but she's doing a hell
of a lot of good work, and because of her many a small child will be able to overcome their horrid experience and be able to live
full and happy lives.
Anyway, thats what I know.

Answer 4

Honey, it is called a near-death-experience. The truth of the matter is that it is quite possible that it could have happened.
If you read the Bible, specially 1 and 2 Corinthians, the apostle Paul speaks about spiritual gifts and other experiences that sound similar to the one that your sons claims that guy had. In churches these claims are always weighed against the Bible and the lives of other Christians throughout history. I highly suggest that you go with him and hear what's going on. After all, many have followed wackos like Jim Jones and the whole Heaven's Gate cult unquestioned. You owe it to yourself to go and see.
Cheers,
Mr. M on "for real?"

Answer 5

March 28, 2007 total factors: 132 (point one million) factors earned this week: 4 one million. Christianity isn't in common terms consistent with Paul; it relies completely on Christ Jesus, as properly the letters of Paul there are various different historical witnesses. 2. "a guy named Paul " - Paul became extreme knowledgeable in on of the main respected Jewish colleges of the time, he became an amazing rhetorician, and his letters exhibit own heat temperature, understanding, genuineness and compassion. 3. "letters of a guy named Paul" - Historians settle for own letters as being common evidence. in terms of historical history, there is rather not any further useful evidence which you will have. usual its especially solid evidence. 3. "probable by no skill met Jesus" - Paul claimed to have met Jesus and this declare became common via Luke. Luke has been called a reliable historian. how are you able to establish your declare of low risk?

Answer 6

The best person to ask is the man in question. If you are interested to find out then go along. Asking on here all you are going to get is uniformed opinion. Who knows whats possible - you may learn something amazing.

Answer 7

Dear Debbie,

That's scary. We truly are living in the last days. I'd show my kids in the Bible why this person is a "false prophet" and would definetly keep my child from any activities of that church. Sounds like a pit of false-doctrine.

Sadly people have itching ears and will hear what they want to hear.

kindly,

Nickster

Answer 8

Sound like this guy is on some serious class A drugs and has read Anne Rice's "Menoch the Devil" (Where the vampure Lestat goes to Heaven, hell and yes, meet JC!)

Answer 9

Actually although his story is quite unbelievable he may very well have had that experience through a dream or nightmare but we all have those experiences. Its more like the brain goes through a chemical imbalance because of this near death experience. But to their loss people do fall for that sort of rubbish thinking that what they went through happened for real.

Answer 10

I met this chap insisted he met jesus and went to Hell, turned out he was a Geordie from Noo Casill who had been to Hull and knew an old lag called Grievous, as in GBH..

Answer 11

Sure, this guy is fine. In fact if you are busy one day you could ask him to babysit for you. We need more level headed down to earth ordinary guys like him in the world. What a swell guy! Why not hand him some cash? I'm sure he could use it. And maybe he can let you know about the time he flew an intergalactic destroyer through the horsehead nebula. Cool!