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New Testament except the Resurrection (for we know that even if that was proved they still wouldnt believe), why dont they believe that Jesus was the Son of God. MY history professor(i study history) said that he believes that Jesus was using the untapped powers of the mind. Which sounds more ridiculous?

2007-09-12 10:52:37 · 34 answers · asked by cannon_primed 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

its been proven archaeologically, geographically, historically(records), and such. Its in my notes lemme check.

2007-09-12 10:56:10 · update #1

Yes they have. If you study history as extensively and comprehensively as we do you would know. Unfortunately, I can't say the name of the 'Institute' where this research takes place, but I can tell you that its in the Middle East.

2007-09-12 10:58:32 · update #2

Of course the evidence we have is not absolute. No shred of evidence ever found can be absolute. Even DNA testing has a 99.999998% chance of being right. I bet you didnt know that did you.

2007-09-12 11:03:53 · update #3

One more thing, why is it that the Bible is the only document that explained the rectangular mass on Mt. Ararat before 1500AD when people began studying Mt. Ararat? Besides, it has been reasearched and proven that the rectangualr mass on Mt. Ararat could not have been created by nature or have gotten there by natural means(kinda like saying the stonehenge appeared where it is naturally)(dont ask me, im a historian not a scientist) but im absolutely sure that its been proven.

2007-09-12 11:07:18 · update #4

wow, my publicident. Jesus was Jewish not Egyptian. The time the Bible was written little to nothing of Egyptian myth had been discovered by Europe considering they couldnt even understand their languages and hieroglyphics. Cmon man. Find better self-deceptions than that.

2007-09-12 11:11:02 · update #5

Listen to 4HIM, she's almost exactly right(i have what she said in my notes lol) but also some other more recent stuff weve found that are confidential right now.

2007-09-12 11:13:51 · update #6

34 answers

Historically proven? What about Dionysus of Greece, Attis of Phyrigia, or Osiris of Egypt, or any other god that was alleged to have walked the earth at some point? Why are their 'lives' so similar to that of Jesus even though the myths are hundreds or thousands of years older?

2007-09-12 11:00:36 · answer #1 · answered by Citizen Justin 7 · 3 2

There is only two references to a Jesus in the historical record - that of Josephus in Antiquities of the Jews. Both are disputed by some very reputable scholars.

The so-called miracles could have been performed by anyone familiar with Egyptian magical practises. Look up the historical record of Simon Magus.

There is absolutely no physical archaeological evidence relating to Jesus - the Turin Shroud was not woven in the right time period. There are no Roman records relating to the crucifixion of a Jesus either.

If Jesus existed, and I am not saying he did or did not, he was merely a man. His moral message is as valid now, what little of it has not been distorted by self-serving clerics and religious opportunists, as it was then.

Why is it so difficult for religious types to accept that he was a man and not a supernatural being with super powers? Reading between the lines of 2000 years of propaganda it is obvious that the "real" Jesus was an extraordinary man. Does that sound ridiculous?

2007-09-12 11:26:03 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I am one of those you speak about. Back then there were a lot of young men named Jesus and many claimed to be the messiah. We have the story of Jesus in the Bible. Even the Jews who lived at that time with Jesus in their lives did not believe him to be the messiah. The story that is told us is that his body stayed as it was to the point of the gash in his side after the resurrection. I would have believed if the body was in the cave and communication then begin with Mary, then the disciples, then Paul. ( Not a voice ) I just have problems with the New Testament.

2007-09-12 11:13:56 · answer #3 · answered by plyjanney 4 · 0 1

Yes, there is a lot of proof.
there is simple people who just listen to biased web pages instead of doing more research, to find out that Jesus existed. He performed miracles. (And He still does, as many Christians can testify, including myself).

To the person who honestly asked where is the proof, look up this site (also what 4HIM said), just for a beginning:

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/

2007-09-12 17:37:33 · answer #4 · answered by Joshua 5 · 1 1

Historically proven by whom? When? Where?

I have not seen a single historical proof of ANY miracle whatsoever, by Jesus or anyone else.

And there's a MAJOR difference between "some guy named Jesus lived a long time ago" and "that guy was the son of GOD, and you're gonna burn in Hell if you don't believe it!"

2007-09-12 11:00:15 · answer #5 · answered by au_catboy 3 · 1 1

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2016-11-10 06:36:51 · answer #6 · answered by brijshwaer 4 · 0 0

I asked Jesus to forgive my sins and come into my heart.And I really felt an overwhelming prescience of peace and love like I never even believed existed.I know Jesus is alive .I experienced Jesus and still do everyday through a personal relationship with Him.God Bless You.

2007-09-12 10:59:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I would love to see that "proof!"

Seriously, I want a source that proves Jesus existed and preformed miracles.

All I have ever asked for is evidence. As for your prof, he is a loon.

EDIT

It is amazing what some people will call "evidence." You claimed Jesus was a proved fact, but you don't offer on shred of hard data. You aren't even trying.

2007-09-12 10:55:56 · answer #8 · answered by atheist 6 · 6 2

Funny, you provide no proof and the ACTUAL reality is there is very little evidence of this Jesus character. Your history professor also is one of the people who still believes in the we only use 10% of our brain crap. That was disproven long ago.

2007-09-12 11:02:39 · answer #9 · answered by meissen97 6 · 0 2

Historians against Jesus. What about historians against Christianity? What did their writings say? One of such anti-Christian mentality was Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman historian, senator, consul and governor of the province of Asia. Concerning Jesus and His followers, Tacitus wrote, "Nero…punished with every refinement the notoriously depraved Christians (as they were popularly called). Their originator, Christ, had been executed in Tiberius' reign by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate. But in spite of this temporary setback, the deadly superstition had broken out afresh, not only in Judea (where this mischief had started) but even in Rome" (The Annals of Imperial Rome, XV, 44). Julian the Apostate (called such because he rejected Christianity after being raised in it), a fourth-century emperor, wrote, "Jesus, whom you celebrate, was one of Caesar's subjects. If you dispute it, I will prove it by and by; but it may be as well done now. For yourselves allow, that he was enrolled with his father and mother in Cyrenius…But Jesus having persuaded a few among you, and those the worst of men, has now been celebrated about 300 years; having done nothing worthy of remembrance; unless anyone thinks it is a mighty matter to heal lame and blind people, and exorcise demoniacs in the villages of Bethsaida and Bethany" (Cyril Contra Julian, VI, 191, 213). These are just two quotes from pagan Roman scholars who loathed Christianity. Since these men had access to government records, and hated what Christians believed and stood for, they could have easily "disproved" and discredited the existence of Christ if they so wished. But, because they could not do such a thing, their writings only add to the monumental proof of the life of Christ. What about the Jewish people? If Christ did not exist, how then could the Jews reject Him? In his book Antiquities of the Jews, Jewish historian Flavius Josephus writes about Jesus, His disciples and John the Baptist. He referred to John as "the good man" (XVIII, 5, 2). Modern-day scholars recognize Josephus' account of the death of James, "the brother of Jesus who was called Christ" (XX, 9, 1), as genuine. The Jewish Encyclopedia (1907 edition) explains that Jesus is also mentioned in the Talmud, the Jewish tradition consisting of the Mishnah and the Gemara. These references to Christ are found in the sections Shabbath 104b and 116b; Sanhedrin 43a, 67a and 107b; and Sotah 47a. You may want to read an article entitled "Jesus of Nazareth," from The Jewish Encyclopedia (1907), the articles "Jesus Christ" and "Talmud and Midrash" from The New Encyclopedia Britannica (1981), or the article "Jesus" in the Encyclopedia Judaica for more background concerning this subject. These sources offer valuable information regarding the many proofs of the life of Christ. They point to the immutable facts that He: was born of a virgin, was of Jewish nationality, preached the gospel, healed the sick and diseased, and was betrayed and brutally slaughtered.

2007-09-12 11:10:26 · answer #10 · answered by 4HIM- Christians love 7 · 3 2

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