okay so i love sparring and i compete all the time, so when i practice i like to get a good fight in. i dont like fighting the girls becuase they are not aggressive enough (no offence, i am a girl anyway)
so when i fight the guys i expect a good fight, but it absolutely PISSES ME OFF when they inisist on going easy on me, i am one of the best fighters in my school, but still the some guys go easy on me, they say "your a girl, i'm not going to go all out".
i would like a good fight! if they beat the **** out of me, all the better, i train harder and try agian next time.
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one more subject, the people who cannot fight a decent fight but put all the power into one hit, your not trying to break your opponants ribs. recently i was fighting this guy who could absolutely not get one hit on me, at the ned he through an incredibly strong kick at my stomach and ended up cracking a rib. ^_^
(rant over, do give your two cents!)
2007-09-12 05:12:06 · 27 answers · asked by Mollie 5 in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
i do Tang Soo Do
2007-09-12 05:21:37 · update #1
Maybe they are afraid of hurting you if they hit or kick you to hard and they are just not sure of how much power to use and how much control to exercise. Besides the social aspects here you also have to remember that the instructor probably wants to keep the injuries down and not see his students seriously hurt each other. Women being smaller and lighter framed also makes this all more difficult for the heavier, stronger male fighters to do and still keep that margin of safety that your instructor wants.
I would talk first with the instructor and then with some of the better, more skilled male fighters and ask them to gradually turn it up a notch or two when sparring with you. That way it is still controlled, helps to keep it within the safety limits that your instructor wants and keeps you from getting serious injuries. At my studio I have what I call my hard core fighters and they are the ones that are tougher, more skilled, and whose technique is very strong. When they fight with other hard core fighters they can safely turn it up and it still keeps things within acceptable limits. When they fight non-hard core students they take it back down a few notches and work on their defense or motion or timing. That way they don't overwhelm that non hard core student. If this type of arrangement is not possible you may find that the contact and fighting is not hard enough and have to seek another school or style like full contact or Muay Tai.
2007-09-12 23:48:13 · answer #1 · answered by samuraiwarrior_98 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is a natural thing... if you are better than an opponent then you can tell immediately ... then you rate yourself as a 10, then try to rate them.... if they are a two i would go a three (sparring is only an exercise to improve.. not an all out fight)... if they started out as a 2 and they see i am a three and they step it up to a three i go to a four.... if they step it up to a four, i stay at a four, I will let them get their licks in... (positive re-enforcement), but the next time I will spar as a five... This is how we improve.. it is not a matter of pride... If you want them to go harder.. you must go harder... they will have no choice.... Consequently If I am sparring someone better than me I will make them do the same to me... If I can tell they are taking it easy on me... I will "step it up" see if i can push them to their "10"... this is why we train... to keep getting better... Everyone out there can find the one who can kick their butt... and the ppl who havent.. are still searching... give it the best you have... If the other person doesnt... dominate them (then back off), if they dont and you cant dominate them.. work harder.... On the cracked rib note.. I cracked a guys rib once... and basically couldnt sparr him anymore... I "always felt sorry" and never quite "went for it anymore" against him and he owned me.... so your revenge will come haha.. good luck
2007-09-12 19:42:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Couple of things.
I once cracked a person's rib in sparring and it didn't prove anything except that I could not control my attacks. The folks who are whining that " you got what you asked for" are missing the point.
Sparring practice is about technique and control, not about just raw power. I have to remind the teenagers that I am at a disadvantage when I spar them. Sure they may be a bit faster than me and may have more reach, but the real disadvantage is that I cannot ease up on my control because if I do, bad things happen.
When I spar a person, I try to spar at just above their level, so as to push them a bit but not dominate them and make them feel inept. After all, this is a school, this is a lesson, we are supposed to be learning.
I've had to remind a few folks that they either need to get themselves under control (targeting, power, etc) or deal with the consequences, but if the boys are "taking it easy" on you it is a demonstration of their lack of technique and control, not a demonstration of any weakness on your part.
Try this exercise. Take a couple of free standing bags and place them near each other. Next do a series of combos at full speed and power, but adjust your range so that your control has you just brush the bag.
Check who does more of the combos while leaving their bag closest to the starting position. Loser does 50 push ups.
As I tell my students, power is the last thing you add to an attack because:
Technique + Speed = Power
Power = Slow
Last thing, if you are doing touch sparring and someone is hitting you too hard, the fault is theirs, not yours. Controlled sparing doesn't mean half speed, it means full-on with maximum control.
2007-09-12 09:08:54 · answer #3 · answered by Pugilist 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I can understand how you feel. Especially when a guy is looking down at you when they're much weaker than you. But still, guys shouldn't really go all out on girls. Take me for example. I can break bricks with my fist and break bats with my shin. I've also broken somebodies' ribs by doing a bear hug and squeezing the hell out of them. That one was pretty funny because when I dropped him, he was still gasping for air.
So anyways, whoever you're fighting, guys or girls, be careful who you pick a fight with. By what I said I can do, you're probably thinking that I'm some huge thick guy but I'm actually skinny and not too tall. I can still win arm wrestling against guys who are more muscular and bigger than me.
PS: This is what you need to do. Do not become overconfident(not saying that you are), stay cool, and never underestimate your opponent or you'll end up like some of the guys who picked a fight with me.
2007-09-12 10:35:56 · answer #4 · answered by Reaper 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hi there
One of my teachers once said any idiot off the street can punch with strength and speed but only an expert can control it.
I understand where your coming from but i think you should hen pick your sparring partners. It's not about going at it hammer and tongs but more about sparring with the correct intent so that it feels real. Sparring with aggression or like you say holding back doesn't help you or your partner to develop.
But you must understand that some guys are gentlemen. Its just in our nature to be that way towards the opposite sex. Its not dig at you or your ability so if someone is holding back then tell them. Make them work harder and in the end they will thank you for it. ;-)
But being a gent in the Martial Arts shows good character and is a good thing not a bad one. ;-)
Best wishes
idai
2007-09-12 06:32:01 · answer #5 · answered by idai 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
WOW! Your the best Girl Fighter I know! I would Take you on in wrestling! But I wouldn't Try to hit you though! It's just that I'm concerned that I'll hurt you! So the other guys are too! If you really want too I'll spar with you even though I might Lose! I think I'm afraid to lose to a Girl! So must be the other Guys!
2007-09-12 18:48:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You complain about a lack of commitment by the guys to spar and when one cracks a rib that is because he can't fight but put it into 'one strong hit' or something???
Do you kids actually read your own posts to make sure they even make sense???
From where I am sitting you wish people would spar yuou harder, but have decided when they do you don't like it.
Putting something into 'one good hit' is all part of it.
It means he got you. Does a boxing knokcout not count because it is just one hit?
Honestly go along to a real tough sport like mauy thai or boxing and they are all tough hits, every single one.
And that is just from the other women.
2007-09-12 07:59:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
ive heard this complaint numerous times and the guys are damned if they do or damned if they dont. If they go easy and they get beat on then they look like an idiot and if they go hard and hit the girl hard they are an asshole. So either way the guy loses!! Ive sparred girls who say quit going easy then you hit em with a stiff jab and they give you "the look" so i just quit sparring women all together!!
2007-09-12 13:22:08 · answer #8 · answered by B 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I definitely feel your frustration on this. I just had a conversation about this with the guys in my gym, and they explained that they feel like it's a lose/lose situation. If you kick their ***, they look like a pansy. If they kick your ***, they look like a jerk. The key is A) earning their respect and B) communicating. Regardless of gender, a person needs to feel confident that their opponent can intelligently defend themselves before going all out.
Explain that by "taking it easy" on you they are giving you false confidence, which is unsafe. Personally, anyone I am close to the same skill level on I want to go 100%. I used to get furious when I thought someone wasn't going 100% . . . I was so caught up in proving myself. But honestly, being a small girl, it would do me no good to have a 200 pound black belt beat the crap out of me. They don't know what you want/need, so be sure to let them know.
2007-09-12 10:24:50 · answer #9 · answered by peacemaker 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
ahhhh i see why, since your really good theyll be scared of gettin the **** kicked out of them by a girl(guy thing)
so they pretend to go easy on u so they have an excuse.but if they beat u up,other guys will be like OMFG u beat up a girl(another guy thing).That must be very annoying because u wont get a proper fight so you wont be able to see your fulI potential. dont think age or gender or ne thing stupid like that should stop some one giving it theyre all :) Next time a guy says "ill go easy on ya" just say "i think i shud be the one going easy on you sweetie" hopefully he'll get mad and u will have a good fight :P
P.S have fun in tang soo du! and srry to hear about the broken rib :(
2007-09-12 07:06:53 · answer #10 · answered by all up in flames 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋