Why are so many people concerned about making schools like their church? Why can't people let schools be schools and churches be churches?
If you support allowing teachers to force students to(or "coordinate" if you prefer) school prayer, teach bible classes, etc. then please tell me why and on what grounds you would object to my sending a biologist to preach evolution at your church.
You will probably say that churches are private property, and public schools are public. that’s fine, but isn't a good enough argument; a public institution has to look out for everyone’s interests, not just yours, and a private one, we agree, can do whatever it likes without breaking the law.
2007-09-12 05:08:56 · 14 answers · asked by Free Radical 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
lol, how can "humanities" or humanistic education be objectionable to humans?
2007-09-12 05:14:31 · update #1
good for you roselyn, that is the choice everyone has. if you don't like public school, you have options. but to refuse those options and instead try and make public school more like your bible camp is, in my opinion, misguided, bigoted, unfair, and small minded.
2007-09-12 05:16:39 · update #2
sorry connie i never had a class on santa in public school...
2007-09-12 05:17:52 · update #3
sorry bobo if you feel that science is an opinion thats being "shoved down your throat". perhaps you would see how silly this position really is if you witnessed a group protesting english, physical education, or maybe cullinary arts classes on the same grounds of others "shoving their opinions down their throats", lol
2007-09-12 05:20:54 · update #4
Religion has had a free ride for too long. It's time to call it on the carpet, legally and otherwise.
Edit: Connie D. is a bit deluded. Religion does not belong in public school in the guise of science. There is no evidence to support Creationism. Scripture is not evidence, it just an echo of the same claim. Science, however is based and formulated upon observation and evidence. Science is not a belief.
If parents want their kids to learn crap like creationism, they can levy that kind of intellectual abuse in the privacy of their homes and churches. Besides, from which denomination in this "Christian" nation would the "studies" be based?
2007-09-12 05:12:34 · answer #1 · answered by coralsnayk 3 · 5⤊ 2⤋
I agree with Bobo aka "boob"
Public schools definitely have an agenda.
The purpose of school is not only to teach facts,
but to make people a good fit for society.
Curriculum is chosen specifically with many
controls. I see brainwashing happening.
For example, the little red hen story.
The moral of that story, when I was a child,
was that if you don't work, you don't eat.
That is actually a Biblical principal.
Well, now the teaching of that story has
changed. Now they ask questions after the
story about sharing - that the little red hen
should have shared the cake even though
the other characters were lazy and did not
help her!
Christians support religious
freedom and not seclarization or communism
that is being taught in school now.
It is indoctrination.
We are looking for respect towards
religion, that religion includes
guidelines that people follow in public and
private, that belief in God or gods is
respected, that it is especially
Not a Threat to Society to
believe in God or talk about God in public.
The facts about history and the efforts
of religion is also being greatly misrepresented.
It is propoganda.
That is where we are coming from.
People before the 1960's understood the
concepts well, even atheists. Now it
is totally confused.
It needs to continue the way it was or similar
in order to not become a communistic and
immoral society where life and religion is
disrespected and treated harshly.
2007-09-12 05:58:40 · answer #2 · answered by Nickel-for-your-thoughts 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Indoctrination tinged with guidance. the element is to what point the indoctrination takes effect. Islamic indoctrination takes a intensity that isn't appropriate to maximum persons with a loose questioning suggestions.. Christianity collectively as perhaps in simple terms as insidious facilitates freedom of expression and following. If I had to chosen the two i might chosen Christianity by way of fact it facilitates the guy to 'de-opt for' at will. faith of all types could be stored strictly interior the homestead and not inflicted on all. it extremely is the place the Indoctrination takes carry.
2016-10-10 10:50:35 · answer #3 · answered by lorts 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They don't believe in equality. The Discovery Institute has a well documented agenda about indoctrinating the minds of children. They and other religious right groups have done studies and determined that 95% of people indoctrinated in one faith up until age 11 will keep that faith their entire lives.
Schools can not teach a faith or religious views because of the separation of church and state. it is imoral to force religion on children and to try to indoctrinate children against their parent's will.
I went to public school, Int he 1970's I received 3 swats from the principal after being humiliated in class by my teacher for refusing to pray. Why? Becuase I said "I don't believe in god."
What they did was illegal and criminal.
2007-09-12 05:26:12 · answer #4 · answered by Atrum Animus AM 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Public schools indoctrinate without religion.
My taxes pay for the public school. My church receives no tax support, so you have no rights with regards to what is taught in my church.
You're right, a public school has to watch out for everyone's interests. So why should I allow the public school to teach secular humanism? Why am I forced to pay for a school that isn't representative of my views, or of the views of 90% of my communities views? Why do you have a right to force your views down my throat?
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edit 'lol, how can "humanities" or humanistic education be objectionable to humans?'
You might be interested in the Humanist Manifesto's 1, 2 and 3. Note in 2 that it is considered a religion by the author, a Humanist. You sound like some of the 'teachers' I had growing up - is that you Mr. Gunderson?
2007-09-12 05:17:35 · answer #5 · answered by super Bobo 6 · 3⤊ 5⤋
Public schools, education. For many private schools unfortunately indoctrination.
2007-09-12 05:12:38 · answer #6 · answered by Jett 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋
As for me and my family, we would never use the public school system. We believe it is against the word of God. It teaches things that are in total contradiction to the bible. So, that is why we wouldn't put our children in public education. Obviously it is more expensive for us but that is the way our priorities are.
2007-09-12 05:13:43 · answer #7 · answered by roselyn m 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I believe school should be of education. I don't want a teacher or anyone to force my children into anything.
2007-09-12 05:20:40 · answer #8 · answered by htpanther 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Indoctination is a type of teaching. Teachers tell kids how it is and kids are supposed to accept it.
But schools should be about enabling kids to find out for themselves. Offering them the means of evaluating evidence and doing their own research.
That's education.
2007-09-12 05:14:36 · answer #9 · answered by Bad Liberal 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Yes they should look out for everyone but excluding things is not the answer, I think equal teaching is best. Why teach only evolution but not creation? That is one sided, isn't it? Why have Christmas celebration That excludes Christ but promotes Santa and commercialism? The education system is at this point indoctrinating our kids into the humanistic viewpoint by not allowing other beliefs to be taught.
2007-09-12 05:15:03 · answer #10 · answered by Connie D 4 · 1⤊ 6⤋