some people describe the body like unto a prison and to be resurrected in a body is not to be Free. therefore they believe that ascension is a greater hope. some people teach that jesus was resurrected NOT in a body but in the spirit, that he ascended to God not in body but in spirit.
can you defend the belief of either ?
whe jesus appeared to his disciples he said fear not, a spirit hath not a body of flesh and bone. paul said flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God but Jesus also invited his disciples to FEEL and SEE the wounds in his hands and feet.
Truly He must have been resurrected in a Body, paul describes a resurrected body as being incorruptible. Such a body can only be a temple, not a prison.
What do you say?
2007-09-12 05:05:21 · 12 answers · asked by Priestcalling 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jesus and all Christian witnesses teach the resurrection of the body. Jews have no concept of a disembodied spirit; that idea comes from Greek mystery religions. These mystery religions also developed the gnosticism that likens the body to a prison from which one must escape.
Jesus showed us what a resurrected body is like. As you indicate, his body could be hugged by Mary Magdalene or probed by a doubting Thomas.
Modern psychology, too, understands a person to be a physical body whose thoughts depend on neurological transmissions in the brain. We can't think or act without a brain. Thus, if our bodies are not resurrected by God, we have no life with him.
As to ascension, that appears to be a one-time miraculous event the occurred with Jesus, witnessed by his disciples.
Cheers,
Bruce
2007-09-19 14:30:11 · answer #1 · answered by Bruce 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
These are both true.
Jesus Christ was resurrected and ascended into heaven.
Resurrection means the rejoining of the body and the spirit, he overcame mortal death this way.
Since he does not live with us, he ascended. Ascension is different, it means to increase in glorified state, he returned to his place on the throne on the right side of God.
(This verse's background: Christ is risen—He appears to Mary Magdalene, then to others—He sends the apostles to preach, promises that signs shall follow faith—He ascends into heaven.)
Mark 16:19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
The word descension is used to describe how Jesus first came to earth, he descended from his place in Heaven to be a lesser being, a mortal human.
The rest of us beings are going to go through a different process, we will die, we will be resurrected and we will be judged before we ascend ourselves. This isn't going to happen until the millenium, after Jesus returns to earth a second time.
Because he is the Son of God (I believe he is the Son of God) he has already passed through these steps (think of it as the detour route) since he was pure and made a sacrifice of himself for us, and he is half Deity, let us not forget.
This has made him loosen those bonds that make us wait for our transcendence.
So, whatever steps we have to go through after being resurrected to be able to ascend into heaven after judgment day, we don't know. Jesus was able to, so there's more to this philosophy and this doctrine than we know. We know then that it IS possible and we know we will find out one day for sure.
2007-09-12 05:27:03 · answer #2 · answered by CurlySue 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus was resurrected with a spirit body. He took on fleshly bodies to strengthen the faith his disciples before he ascended. These bodies were manufactured flesh and bone but blood did not course through them. Very similar to bodies materialized by Angels prior to this. To take back a body of flesh and blood would have invalidated his sacrifice.
2007-09-12 05:16:30 · answer #3 · answered by Sal D 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
resurrection in a perfect and renewed body - similar to what we now have but different adn better.
1 Sam. 2: 6 he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
Job 14: 14 If a man die, shall he live again.
Job 19: 26 (Moses 5: 10) destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God.
Isa. 25: 8 swallow up death in victory.
Isa. 26: 19 together with my dead body shall they arise.
Ezek. 37: 12 I will open your graves, and cause you to come up.
Dan. 12: 2 sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake.
Hosea 13: 14 ransom them from the power of the grave.
Matt. 22: 23 (Mark 12: 18; Luke 20: 27; Acts 23: 8) Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection.
Matt. 22: 30 (Luke 20: 35) in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage.
Matt. 27: 52 (3 Ne. 23: 9) graves were opened, and many bodies . . . arose.
Mark 12: 26 as touching the dead, that they rise.
Luke 14: 14 thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection.
Luke 24: 39 spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
John 5: 21 (Rom. 4: 17; 1 Tim. 6: 13) Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them.
John 5: 29 (D&C 76: 17) come forth: they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life.
John 6: 54 raise him up at the last day.
John 11: 25 I am the resurrection, and the life.
Acts 2: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains.
Acts 4: 33 apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord.
Acts 17: 32 they heard of the resurrection of the dead.
Acts 24: 15 resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Acts 26: 8 Why . . . incredible . . . that God should raise the dead.
Rom. 6: 5 we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.
Rom. 8: 11 he . . . shall also quicken your mortal bodies.
1 Cor. 6: 14 God . . . will also raise up us by his own power.
1 Cor. 15: 21 by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1 Cor. 15: 23 Christ the firstfruits.
1 Cor. 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.
1 Cor. 15: 44 (D&C 88: 27) it is raised a spiritual body.
2 Cor. 1: 9 trust . . . in God which raiseth the dead.
Eph. 2: 5 quickened us together with Christ.
Philip. 3: 21 change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his.
Col. 2: 13 you . . . hath he quickened together with him.
1 Thes. 4: 16 dead in Christ shall rise first.
2 Tim. 2: 18 erred, saying that the resurrection is past.
Heb. 11: 35 that they might obtain a better resurrection.
1 Pet. 1: 3 unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus.
1 Pet. 3: 21 doth also now save us . . . by the resurrection of Jesus.
1 Jn. 3: 2 when he shall appear, we shall be like him.
Rev. 20: 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.
Jesus is the only one the bible talks about ascending
Luke 24: 51 he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
John 3: 13 no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came.
John 6: 62 see the Son of man ascend up where he was before.
John 14: 12 (John 14: 28) I go unto my Father.
John 20: 17 touch me not, for I am not yet ascended.
Acts 1: 11 same Jesus, which is taken up from you.
Eph. 4: 10 same also that ascended up far above all heavens.
1 Tim. 3: 16 received up into glory.
2007-09-12 05:11:17 · answer #4 · answered by phrog 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Jesus' invitation to "doubting" Thomas to feel His hnad, feet and sides is surely a great evidence of physical resurrection.
Jesus also ate fish at the end of one of the Gospel accounts.
Jesus' ascension only means something if he was occupying his physical body.
Any talk denying a resurrection is incorrect.
2007-09-12 05:23:35 · answer #5 · answered by zeal4him 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
My answer to your question is neither they are both false assumptions.
Death is the transition of your spirit or soul from the physical body to a finer state of being.
This finer state of being can show itself & appear to us in exactly the same form as it's physical body was.
Hence the need for the story concerning the resurrection!
2007-09-12 05:23:22 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
After the resurrection, Jesus visited a lot of His disciples. In His resurrection physique, Jesus beamed right into a closed room without commencing the door. He additionally beamed from one place to a various at as quickly as. collectively as His apostles would possibly not be attentive to who He grew to become into before the crucifixion, now, they observed His divine attributes. Jesus grew to become into seen by capacity of over 500 witnesses after the resurrection. In resurrection physique, Christians may be waiting to beam from one place to a various or perhaps to flow to the sunlight and different galaxies. impressive, perfect.
2016-10-10 10:50:25 · answer #7 · answered by lorts 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You forgot about the other parts where Jesus ate food to prove that he was normal. Was there more than one Jesus during this time?
2007-09-20 02:28:48 · answer #8 · answered by Drop short and duck 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Neither is true. The one, true path is the Holy Compost, ashes to ashes, dust to dust and the dear vital spark loosed to rejoin the cosmic cacophony.
2007-09-20 04:50:08 · answer #9 · answered by oakleafmold 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
He asked not to be touched at one point as he had not gone to His Father yet. When he allowed himself to be touched, he had been to his Father. I think this is the distinction between the two.
Blessed Be
2007-09-20 03:08:52 · answer #10 · answered by Linda B 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋