how could a uncaused be a cause?

Question

I asked a question earlier What is the First Cause of everything? and why? and some of the answeres refer to an uncaused being the cause of everything how can an uncaused cause anything wouldn't it just not be?

both explain nothing

i seek truth

answering it just is or similare is not an answer

their are many kinds of effects and some effects are simmilar to the cause and others which basicly do nothing but lead back to the cause

janice talking to six year olds comes with having friends with children and having children. they tend to have friends in the same age group

somebody good effort but what caused the person to push the first domino?, and what caused the person to set the dominoes up? and what caused the dominoes to be made to be set up? and what caused the people to be their to do the setting up and pushing of the dominoes?

somebody good effort but what caused the person to push the first domino?, and what caused the person to set the dominoes up? and what caused the dominoes to be made to be set up? and what caused the people to be their to do the setting up and pushing of the dominoes? all you really done was describe cause and effect with part missing

somebody all you realy shown was another cause which would have another cause the desire to do it which would of come from causes. i agree with cause and affect but what is an uncaused cause.

Answer 1

Both are concepts and what you seek is beyond human conception!

Answer 2

My dear friend, this is just like the egg and the chicken, the old phylogeny VS ontogeny question. I have no idea. What you say make sense from the point of view of logic, I mean it is impossible for the uncaused to be the caused of something, isn't it? Now, if there is a cause of something that what is the cause of that something? We could go no for hours like this without finding the answer. I think we are too limited here to actually grasp the answer or maybe it's just an excuse for my ignorance. I don't know. I've been pondering about this for years and found no answer yet. From a theistic point of view poeple will say God but then Who created God? Or did it arise of its own accord? It's a fascinating yet stressful question. Is anything uncaused at all? How can it be? there must be an origin for it, then there is always a cause.
I hope someone will find the answer to this. ;)

Answer 3

Line up a row of dominoes on end, a long line of them in the shape of a spiral.

Here is a video to help you visualize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9oyJn7lgFk

Now, watch them falling. The effect of one domino falling causes it to strike another domino causing it to fall and so forth until they have all fallen. Notice how your eye follows the action of falling. This is the concept of "Now" within the passing of time. Past is represent by dominoes which have already fallen. Future is represented by dominoes yet to fall. This is a demonstration of Cause and Effect in a sequence of Time. The first domino was pushed by an outside force outside of that sequence of Time. The one who set up the dominoes is the creator of the design. The creator of the design of dominoes and who pushed the first domino was not pushed by a domino making it the uncaused cause. The uncaused cause is the cause of that sequence of events.

If you expand this example to represent the universe then you might see the first event or effect being caused by a designer outside of the universal time line who caused the first effect. Being outside of that time line would make the designer not subject to the time line. In fact, the designer created the time line and set it in motion. The Uncaused could just Be but in the case of the dominoes, the Uncaused created and caused the sequence of events.

Another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bgc67rf26I


Response to additional comment:

It seems you accept my answer to the first part of this question which is "How.....?"

Of course there is the mystery of "Why?" As for dominoes? I imagine it was purely for amusement and to express creativity. To break the boredom of an empty existence by filling it with something good, enjoyable and wonderful.

For the purpose of Humanity I would have to give a similar answer as it relates to motive within the context of my religious and spiritual beliefs. To create sentient beings with whom to commune and express love.

Answer 4

I seek truth too. An absolute exists. Without beginning, without end. Only from it nothing becomes something. Words cannot contain it, heads cannot contain it, but hearts can. To communicate something about it is easier if we personify it in some way to be able to hold its shadow in our thoughts for a moment, but that's just a tool, a device and not the reality. To get too much into the limited head closes the door to the limitless heart.

Do you really talk to many 6 yr olds?

Answer 5

The first cause of everything is God. Read the Summa Theologia by St. Thomas Aquinas.

QUOTE: Demonstration [of God] can be made in two ways: One is through the cause, and is called "a priori," and this is to argue from what is prior absolutely. The other is through the effect, and is called a demonstration "a posteriori"; this is to argue from what is prior relatively only to us. When an effect is better known to us than its cause, from the effect we proceed to the knowledge of the cause. And from every effect the existence of its proper cause can be demonstrated, so long as its effects are better known to us; because since every effect depends upon its cause, if the effect exists, the cause must pre-exist. Hence the existence of God, in so far as it is not self-evident to us, can be demonstrated from those of His effects which are known to us

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608b.htm#IBb

Answer 6

if time was only came into being with this universe, then the whole idea of cause and effect do not apply. if there is no time then linear causality does not exist, it may be possible to have the effect before the cause, the cause but no effect or the effect with no cause. what this question really needs is a spliff or a few tequilas.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Gdo is the uncaused cause. He existed from the beginning.

Answer 9

the universe is not eternal :) it was once the size of a tennis ball and the big bang kept on expanding the universe :) the cause is God :P beliving in science alone is pointless, it keeps on changing :S

Answer 10

Quantum variation. Causality breaks down at the quantum scale.