if I out breed a female dog can I mate a female pup off that litter to the brother of the mother ?

Question

this is my female/male{brother and sister pedigree:


Sire 'PR' Lock-Jaw's Ceasar Sire'PR' Lock-Jaw's 8 Ball Sire Sire
Dam
Dam Sire
Dam
Dam'PR' Lock-Jaw's Nala Sire Sire
Dam
Dam Sire
Dam
Dam Curtis' Roxy SireBlue Nation's King Da Kong Sire Sire
Dam
Dam Sire
Dam
Dam 'PR' Blue Nation's Sequoia

Answer 1

It all depends on the breed and what you are hoping to accomplish by doing this? What do you want to improve on? What faults do you want to do away with?
There is no way to answer this question without being familiar with the breed and all of the dogs in the pedigree.

Answer 2

You absolutely do not want them to breed. She will be too young her first heat to safely breed, and they are liter mates. So you need to decide if you can have them unaltered and prevent a pregnancy. If the answer is no then you should spay her before her first heat. If you can prevent a pregnancy than I believe in altering after completely mature which for a shepherd is about 19 months. If you choose to wait on spaying you have to keep them apart during the heat cycle no matter how much anxiety. I have a lot of friends who show. So their dogs can't be altered. To prevent unwanted pregnancies a lot of them board the female at the breeders that she came from during heat. Others bored the male at a local facility and some have friends that will take and care for their male until the females heat is done. Another option is separating them 100% meaning they are never out at the same time and never in the same room. It takes work but can be done if you give it 100%. Note that small gates, and flimsy doors will not keep a determined male from a female during heat. So think long and hard about which way you want to go.

Answer 3

Yes you can.. it's called Line Breeding. However, you need to make sure that you do genetic testing for defects as well as look at all faults in all bloodlines to make sure you are not doubling up on anything bad. It is a good way to go if you have a sound bloodline that you want to preserve while bringing in some new blood. Just make sure that the mated dogs also complement each other so that you get an improvement in the litter. Your goal is to have the next generation be better than the last in looks. Always should have good health and temperament no matter what the breed.

Answer 4

This sort of breeding is only recommended for extremely knowledgeable and experienced breeders. Since you have to ask this question here, it is plain that you are neither, nor do you have a mentor to help you. Therefore I recommend against it. While such a breeding *might* produce excellent puppies (depending on the pedigree), it also might produce disasters if you are not completely familiar with ALL the dogs in the pedigree, as well as their relatives, and any problems that may exist in the bloodline. You also need a very good knowledge of basic genetic and how common genetic diseases in your breed are inherited.

Answer 5

It would be a very poor choice, unless you really know what you are doing., as the pups would have a much higher incidence of having genetic defects.
Most such defects do not show up until the offspring are 18 months, to two years old, so you don't know until well after they are placed in heartbroken homes.
The most common of such defects are heart murmurs, and bone/joint problems. Then, there are early cataracts, and liver or pancreas insufficiency, ( diabetes), and commonly demodectic mange.
Those defects lie 'recessed' until the genes get a double whammy, and then they become dominant, instead of recessive.
Explained better here: http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/Genetics/Inbreeding.html

Answer 6

Depends on how inbred the bro & sis are (I can't read your pedigree with any confidence) and you need 5 or better 10 generations to get a good idea. How radical an outcross the outcross is and if there are any genetic problems in the line -that takes a little detective work - guess what people talk about at shows.
Do you have a pedigree program that can run COI ? seeing what that comes out as can be educational.

What sterling quality are you trying to fix? I see no Ch desinations ort any titles at all(though you might have left that out). Are they top flyball dogs? agility? Obedience? weight pull?

Answer 7

SPAY OR NEUTER!!!!!!!!

1.Not all dogs are built to be bred.

Most pets, although lovable, are not of breeding quality because they have genetic defects and other problems that should not be perpetuated. People who breed dogs for a living are very careful about choosing which dogs they will breed together based on physical characteristics and behavior. Some people decide that it would be fun to breed and just start looking for a dog that has the proper equipment and is willing. This can be a huge mistake.

2. There are already too many dogs in the world.

Breeding your pet is a serious endeavor and should not be taken lightly. There are far too many pets that end up in shelters without good homes. If your breed of dog has large litters, what will you do if you are unable to sell the puppies? Do you really want to contribute to the massive problem of pet overpopulation?

3. Dogs that aren’t neutered face serious health risks.

Consider your dog’s own health. Male dogs that are neutered are less likely to be hit by cars, because unaltered males have a very strong urge to roam and find a fertile female. Male dogs will go over or under fences, through doors and windows, and will pull leashes out of unsuspecting hands in quest of a mate.

Additionally, neutering greatly reduces the incidence of prostatic disease and eliminates testicular cancer in males, and cuts down on breast cancer in females. The possibility of uterine infections is also eliminated by spaying.

4. Female dogs used for breeding may have unwelcome visitors.

If you spay your dog, you will not have to chase persistent male dogs out of your yard. Also, you won’t have to worry about cleaning up messy heat cycles.

5. Be prepared to work like a dog when your pet goes into labor.

Many people do not realize just how much work and expense is involved with letting dogs have puppies. Getting the mother through pregnancy is the easy part, but labor is truly laborious for dog and owner alike. Dogs usually decide to have their puppies at the most inconvenient times, like 2:00 in the morning when veterinary hospitals are closed.

If your pet develops a problem during delivery, it means at least the expense of an emergency call. If the complications are life threatening, you must be prepared, especially if you have a breed of dog that has a broad head like a pug, to pay for an emergency C-section. It is very distressing to have to leave home in the middle of the night, worry about your pet, get a large veterinary bill and then try to explain to your boss why you cannot possibly come to work the next day.

6. It can be devastating when the puppies die.

There is always the prospect of the loss of some or all of the puppies. A neonatal mortality rate of 10 to 30 percent is considered normal. And, it’s easy to lose a puppy if you don’t have the experience or knowledge to care for newborns. Because puppies are not able to regulate their own body temperature initially, you may need to supplement their environment with heat.

7. Not all dogs make the best mothers.

If your female doesn’t have enough milk to feed all its puppies, or decides that feeding her offspring is not her cup of tea, it will be your responsibility to provide them with nutrition every three to four hours, round the clock. And how many mouths are there to feed?

Another aspect of puppy care that you can look forward to if your dog wants nothing to do with her brood is the manual stimulation of urination and defecation. Until puppies are three weeks old they will only void if directly stimulated. If mom isn’t doing this, you will need to take a moistened cotton ball and gently rub the urogenital area until the babes begin to urinate and pass stool. Failure to do this can result in some pretty unhappy puppies.

8. Good luck seeing a profit!

Your last responsibility before they go to a new home is to have them dewormed, vaccinated, and examined by a veterinarian. You will want to make sure that you have budgeted a sufficient amount for this purpose. Needless to say, if you decide to breed mixed breed puppies, you have no opportunity to recoup this expense.

Puppies are a lot of fun and it can be very exciting when they are born, but more often than not, owners find themselves in over their heads when they decide to endeavor into breeding.

Article republished here with permission from VetCentric.com
Copyright(c) 2000 by VetCentric.com

Answer 8

Do you know the dogs in the pedigree well enough to now whether it is safe, healthwise?? Are they all health tested so that you can make an informed decision?? Have you see ( or photos ) of the dogs so you know that they are quality dogs??
You are breeding female to her uncle.. It's fairly close.. I would need to do a whole lot more research on the pedigree and the dogs within the pedigree to make such a decision.

Answer 9

Gee, sounds like yer setting yourself up here for conflicting opinions and a visit from the spay neuter crowd, of which I'm a member. At least yer asking questions beforehand. I have one, WHY do you want to breed dogs?

Please don't take it as rude, I am curious thats all. It is alot of work if done well and no guarantees of success, and MANY risks.

Answer 10

Have you had your dogs tested? OFA cert, vWD, Eyes, thyroid, heart? Unless you have on every dog invloved this would be a really bad idea. It's called linebreeding, if you dont know anything about it do more research before you try it. Linebreeding is great for bringing out good qualities as well as enhancing the bad. You really should know what your doing and obviously if your asking on YA! you dont. How about you DONT be a backyard breeder.