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Dose it make sense: One God three persons

2007-09-11 12:50:24 · 37 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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That is because it is a made up doctrine that was not "even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective among the Apostolic Fathers".

The History of the Trinity (Encyclopedia Quotes)

The New Catholic Encyclopedia: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - Vol. XIV, p. 299, (1967).

The New Encyclopedia Britannica: "Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' -- Deut. 6:4
. . . The [trinity] doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since." -- Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126. (1976)

Encyclopedia Americana: "Speculative thought began to analyze the divine nature until in the 4th century an elaborate theory of a threefoldness in God appears. In this Nicene or Athanasian form of thought God is said to consist of three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all equally eternal, powerful and glorious." - , 1944, v. 6, p. 619, "Christianity".

Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Hastings: "At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian .... It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the NT [New Testament] and other early Christian writings."

Encyclopedia Americana: "As we have seen, Christianity inherited the monotheism of Israel, but gradually developed it by the elaboration of the doctrine of the Trinity." - p. 619, v. 6, 1941.

The Illustrated Bible Dictionary (Protestant) says: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible .... It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century .... Although scripture does not give us a formulated doctrine of the Trinity, it contains all the elements out of which theology has constructed the doctrine."

To read MUCH more about the history of the Trinity, see:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jwquestion...

2007-09-11 12:56:30 · answer #1 · answered by tik_of_totg 3 · 5 5

Maybe it'll make more sense if you realize the meaning of the word 'person'. From the original Greek, Personae, it means a mask, as was used in the theatre. In Greek theatre, an actor sometimes put on several masks during the course of a play. That way he could play several parts.

God has shown us Himself in three different ways in history. Each of these ways is a 'Person'.

Does that help?

We all 'know' Captain Kirk, TJ Hooker, and the Priceline guy. But how many of us really know William Shatner?
The fact is, we have not yet met the 'Actor' Who has shown us the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

2007-09-11 13:01:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

anymore than having three civilizations that all beleive in the same God yet have those among them who would attack the believers of said God. maybe finding unity in all three makes sense. could find one God in Islam,Judaism, and Christianity. maybe means Father,Mother,Son. Mary,Joseph,Jesus. It has not been admitted but all three have one God

2007-09-11 13:05:09 · answer #3 · answered by darren m 7 · 0 0

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)

“How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” (Hebrews 9:14).

There are a number of significant references to the work of all three Persons of the Trinity in the great work of salvation. Note the implicit reference to the Trinity in our text. “ . . . the blood of Christ . . . through the eternal Spirit offered . . . to God.” There is also a beautiful Trinitarian implication in Ephesians 2:18. “For through (Christ) we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.”

The promise of Christ to send the Holy Spirit is a high point of the Gospel of John. “I will pray the Father,” said the Lord Jesus, “and He shall give you another Comforter” (Greek, parakletos, meaning “one called alongside”), “that He may abide with you for ever” (John 14:16) “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things” (John 14:26). “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of me” (John 15:26).

It seems very clear from such Scriptures that all three—Father, Son, Holy Spirit—are each distinct persons. Yet that the three together are one God is also clear from the fact that they are identified by name as One. Converts are to be baptized “in the name [note the singular—one Name] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 28:19). Note also the benediction formula. “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen” (II Corinthians 13:14). What we cannot fully understand in our minds of this wonderful Triune Godhead, we can understand and believe with our hearts.

2007-09-11 13:00:58 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

One God.....Three Faces....not three persons. Each "person" represents a different aspect of God. In the case of christianity; each face is represented by a person.The Son is the seeker ( looking for knowledge) the father is the guide ( possessor of knowledge) the spirit representing that which we are seeking. In older religions...where the diety is female......you see a trinity also: Maiden/Mother/Crone. These represent the different phases of life....and wisdom gained with the passing of time.

2007-09-11 12:58:38 · answer #5 · answered by RedHairedTempest 3 · 0 2

Why not One God three persons
if that can save the world from eternal death its ok .
we accepted as the Bible 1 john 5:7.

2007-09-11 13:15:35 · answer #6 · answered by Mosa A 7 · 0 0

The trinity is;;
God
Jesus the Son of God
The Holy Spirit

2007-09-11 12:56:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

The trinity doctrine is very easily debunked be using one scripture. And there are many, but his one will do.

It is written, God is not a God of confusion. Why would God the Father, say he begat his Son, when it was really himself?

He wouldn't. If God the Father was to come to the earth, and become flesh, he would not have said it was his Son, but he himself.

It is the minds of men who attempt to discredit the Word of God. For to believe in God is to be held accountable to him. Those who create doctrines of men do so to appease their flesh by creating a God in the image they choose to believe, not who he really is.

2007-09-11 13:03:43 · answer #8 · answered by heiscomingintheclouds 5 · 3 1

You are not alone. Check out the Unitarians. "Uni" referring to "one". They are NOT Trinitarians. Incidentally, the Unitarians are not some new sect---they have been around longer than the Baptists, according to their literature. Although they utilize Judeo-Christian teachings, they accept a great deal of diversity in their congregations.

2007-09-11 12:59:30 · answer #9 · answered by stonecutter 5 · 0 0

No, it doesn't make sense because our logic is too small to hold that doctrine fully. It is the teaching of the Scriptures, so I believe it. Faith cannot be completely logical because that would mean that we could fully understand God. If you could, then your god would simply be a big version of yourself. That's not a true god. That's a god you made up.

2007-09-11 12:57:15 · answer #10 · answered by fuzz 4 · 0 2

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