Well sister we saw the way in which our brother Paul shared on the struggle between the flesh and the spirit in the book of romans. That the things that he did not want to do was exactly that things that he DID do and vice versa. To say that we are allowed to sin because God is faithful and righteous to forgive us of our sins is to take advantage of God and to " crucify the Lord afresh"
There is, in each of us some sort of besetting sin that will take time and growth in the Lord to overcome. But day by day we need to realize that BECAUSE of Grace we are able to be obedient to God's word and to live a live according to the Word, one that is HOly and matches the Lord indwelling us.
Grace is truly a matter that we need to have our Lord unveil our eyes to see clearly. Grace is not merely an unmerited favour to us from God but Grace is God doing His work in us. There are demands that God's word puts to us as believers, Grace is God being our supply and means to accomplish what HE has ordained for us. WHenever God comes to do something in and on behalf of man.. THIS is Grace.
May we all, day by day, come forward with boldness to the Throne of Grace. sister!! There is a THRONE OF GRACE!! where we can obtain mercy and find grace to help in the times of need.( Hebrews)
Each day, God has alloted us all a portion of Grace to supply us so that we can continue to run in this race set before us. May we avail ourselves of this All sufficient Grace, the Overcoming Grace, which is God Himself in us. Praise the Lord that HE is our Way Truth and Life to Go on every day.
Thank You Lord.. that In Your eyes we find Grace!
"The Grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints, Amen."
Rev 22:21 ( very last verse in the whole bible)
WOnderful Q sis
ur sister
sandy
2007-09-12 11:12:01
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answered by Broken Alabaster Flask 6
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It is sooo.. easy to toss out the apostle Paul, and his letter to the romans to answer questions like this, but is that the true answer?
No.
Optional? Is it?
Are you a Sinner Dr. G? Do you still sin? Do you think you will be sinning anytime in the near future?
The answer to all of the above questions MUST BE YES! You are human I hope, and you are still living in a fleshly body, in a fleshly world aren't you?
Should you sin? Lets hope not. Will you sin again sometime? Of course.
The key is that with our sins comes consequences. God is faithful to forgive each and every sin. But are you willing to take the repurcussions of each and every sin is the real question to be asked of yourself!
The Romans Road is great for a toss out of an answer here and there, and is great as a tool for leading others to Christ, and is quite the guide to living in the way of Christ. But the other 65 books of the Canon tell us that sin is here, and to stay, and you will be tempted, and you do have options, but like many others , you will fall, and when you do, buckle up because when the gavel slams down on the judge's desk, the sentence comes next...
God is Holy & Righteous. He will forgive, He will forget. But He will make sure that you will eventually repent, because you will eventually get sick and tired of the backlash that keeps arising from your refusal to repent.
Is it optional? Sure if you are looking forward to a life of "Hell on Earth" until the day comes that you are ready to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk...
And as for you "Romans Roader's"??? Remember to read all of Romans, and not just the parts that apply to a Yahoo Q&A... "Once Saved, Always Saved". God does not lie, and change His mind like some fickle 13 yr. old in love for the first time. Like the Father that He is, He will still love you no matter what, but He will still discipline you when you break the window with the baseball....
EDIT: And in answer to the emails received over this answer... King David was a man after God's own heart, but he sinned, and took quite the beating for it, even though he repented, and was forgiven! David may have been a saint, but he didn't stop being a sinner...
2007-09-11 14:03:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all [men], and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Holiness is separation for God (from the world and sin) so to be truly repentant we must turn from sin and avoid it. So grace does give us a license to sin.
2007-09-11 16:11:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Sin can not abound, so grace will abound more. Those who live in grace, should be making sure that we are living a life that pleases God. I am saved, however, I still struggle and I still can sin- however, living unholy because of grace, makes it CHEAP GRACE- it cost Jesus, the perfect, sinless,son of God , His life, so it is far from cheap. Obeying the Word is not an option. We should live our lives in honor to the Lord- when we do fail, we can go back and ask for forgiveness - however Jesus died to not just give us eternal life, but freedom FROM sin, not freedom TO sin.
2007-09-11 12:51:02
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answered by AdoreHim 7
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Obedience to the word of God and living holy are only possible with grace. It is not optional. The bible says Unless you become holy you cannot have life eternal, and unless you become as little children you cannot enter the kingdom, unless you are born again you cannot enter life, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you cannot have life, it says if you break the least commandment your guilty of breaking them all and if you love ME you will keep my commandments. The bible says, Unless you pick up your cross and follow me you cannot be my disciple, being born again, is baptism, water and the holy spirit. Just like Jesus did in the jordan.
2007-09-11 12:41:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Paul wrote in Romans
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?
Rom 6:2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?
Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
And Paul wrote instructions to the churches that
1Ti 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful {of sinning.}
Holiness and sin is very much an issue.
In 1st Corinthians Paul wrote about the importance of well doing as it pertains to our rewards:
1Cr 3:11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Cr 3:12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
1Cr 3:13 each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is {to be} revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work.
1Cr 3:14 If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward.
1Cr 3:15 If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
1Cr 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and {that} the Spirit of God dwells in you?
If the Spirit of God dwells in you, how then CAN you continue to sin?
Mat 6:24 "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Even Peter wrote the same kinds of things:
2Pe 2:9 {then} the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,
2Pe 2:10 and especially those who indulge the flesh in {its} corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,
2Pe 2:11 whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.
Optional? GOD FORBID!
2007-09-11 12:44:29
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answered by Tim M 2
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quoting source:
"The last of the five points of Calvinism teaches that God preserves His people so they can never be lost. To put it simply, it means this: "Once you are saved, you are always saved."
God's Word is full of proof for this beautiful truth. And though many deny it, and tell you that you can be lost and saved many, many times, and therefore can never be sure of your salvation, the Bible says otherwise. Talking about His elect sheep, Jesus said: "And I give them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (John 10:28). See John 6:39, 17:2, 11,12; Romans 8:37-39; II Tim. 1:12; 4:18, etc. etc.
Some object to this doctrine because it supposedly makes men "carnally secure" in their salvation. That is, if I know nothing can make me go to hell once God has saved me, I will "live like the devil." There have been some who have used this beautiful truth as an excuse to live like the devil. But they are not Christians. Nor do they understand this truth. Because this truth also implies "PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS." Those who never fall away are saints. They are holy. And they are given power to live holy lives. They "continue in well-doing." Anyone who says he can "live like the devil" has not experienced the saving power of Christ and does not know the meaning of Philippians 1:6, "He that hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ." God will continue working good works in us until Christ returns."
2007-09-11 14:08:22
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answered by Anonymous
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obedience comes not from an attempt for salvation but from love for God and what he's given you.
There are two commandments that were given in the new testament to believers and were meant to be "in lieu" of the 10 that were given to moses. The two commandments were the love commandments...
1. Love God with all you heart, mind, body and soul.
2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself
When acting in love towards God and man, you naturally try to do right by them. when a wrong is commited you feel repentant and make amends.
For the believer, obedience is an act of love, not salvation.
2007-09-11 12:39:34
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answered by jhvnmt 4
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No. This is using grace as a liscence to sin, and this is a sin also. Read Romans. In more than a few places it talks of this very point.
Holiness is commanded, it is not optional.
2007-09-11 12:57:03
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answered by Jed 7
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Sin is always an issue. You sin everyday. You live in a world of sin. Sin is sin is sin. So being born again. Does not free you from sin. It just means you are more aware of your sinning ways.
2007-09-11 12:36:57
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answered by Bri 4
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