What is the origin of the Islamic concept?

Question

A previous answer to one of my questions by WWJBU explained that Islam refers to a state of belief in the absolute oneness of Allah, and the message of his prophets, and that a Muslim is one who submits himself wholly to Allah.

Further, WWJBU suggested that, for example, Abraham would have been a Muslim, because he complied with the two statements above.

What interests me is, would, say, Moses have considered himself Muslim, and that it was desirable to live in a state of Islam? Or are these notions a modern interpretation (as followed by today's Muslims) quite alien to a man living in that age?

Answer 1

Origin of Islam: According to Secular History
The origin of Islam can be traced back to 7th century Saudi Arabia. Islam is thus the youngest of the great world religions. The prophet Muhammad (circa 570-632 A.D.) introduced Islam in 610 A.D. after experiencing what he claimed to be an angelic visitation. Muhammad dictated the Qur'an, the holy book of Islam, which Muslims believe to be the preexistent, perfect words of Allah.

Origin of Islam: According to Islam
The origin of Islam is generally accredited to the prophet Muhammad but to the devout Muslim, Islam began long before Muhammad ever walked the earth. The Qur'an was dictated by Muhammad but, according to the Qur'an, it did not originate with Muhammad. The Qur'an testifies of itself that it was given by God through the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad. "This is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. The Honest Spirit (Gabriel) came down with it, to reveal it into your heart that you may be one of the warners, in a perfect Arabic tongue" (Sura 26:192-195). "Say, 'Anyone who opposes Gabriel should know that he has brought down this (the Qur'an) into your heart, in accordance with God's will, confirming previous scriptures, and providing guidance and good news for the believers'" (Sura 2:97).

The Origin of Islam: The "Previous Scriptures"
The origin of Islam is controversial. The "previous scriptures" mentioned above are the Hebrew Torah, the Psalms of David, and the Gospels of Jesus Christ (Sura 4:163; 5:44-48). The Qur'an accepts these books as divinely inspired and even encourages us to test its claims by these "previous scriptures." "If you have any doubt regarding what is revealed to you from your Lord, then ask those who read the previous scripture" (Sura 10:94). But this is where we run into a problem. The problem is that the Qur'an thoroughly contradicts the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospels. For example, the Qur'an explicitly denies Jesus Christ's crucifixion (Sura 4:157-158) while all four Gospel accounts clearly portray Jesus Christ as crucified and resurrected.

One contradiction in particular has caused a great deal of conflict between Muslims and ethnic Jews and is thought to have been and continues to be the cause of much bloodshed in the Middle East. According to the Hebrew Torah, God made a covenant with a man named Abraham. God promised Abraham a child through whom He would fulfill this covenant ("the child of promise," Genesis 15). Abraham was at that time childless. His wife, Sarah, was barren. This of course made the promise very special to Abraham. But it would require nothing less than a miracle. Sarah, conscious of her condition, decided to help God out. She offered her maidservant Hagar to Abraham with the hope that Hagar might conceive and bare the child of promise. Abraham agreed to take Hagar as his concubine. She conceived and bore Ishmael (Genesis 16). God allowed Ishmael to be born but Ishmael was not the child of promise God had in mind (Genesis 17). God promised a child through Sarah, not Hagar (Genesis 17-18), and in due time God fulfilled His promise. "And the Lord visited Sarah as He had said, and the Lord did for Sarah as He had spoken. For Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. And Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him-whom Sarah bore to him-isaac." (Genesis 21:1-3) Isaac was the child of promise. Isaac later begot Jacob, the father of the twelve tribes of Israel, and the Messiah, Jesus Christ, eventually came into the world through the nation of Israel, fulfilling the covenant which God had made with Abraham. God also promised to give the land of Canaan (Palestine) to Isaac's descendants, the land which Israel possesses today (Genesis 12:4-7; 13:12-18; 15:1-21; 17:1-22; 21:1-14; 25:19-26; 26:1-6; 35:9-12).

The problem is that the Qur'an teaches that Ishmael was the child of promise (Sura 19:54; compare Sura 37:83-109 with Genesis 22:1-19) and so Muslims believe that God's covenant promises were meant for Ishmael's descendants, not Isaac's. Muhammad descended from Ishmael and so Muslims seek to lay claim to these covenant promises, namely the land of Palestine. Since Israel's U.N.-sanctioned return to Palestine in 1948 there has been unceasing hostility between Israel and her Arab neighbors, with major armed conflicts in 1948-49, 1956, 1967, 1973-74, and 1982. That Israel remains today is a miracle in-and-of itself.

Answer 2

well Mohammad re-wrote himself into the torah and the bible lol

actually, he was illeterate, so his wife probally wrote it lol

Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. (2:65-66) 4:47

The Pharaoh became a Muslim to avoid being drowned by Allah. 10:90

"And We verily did allot unto the Children of Israel a fixed abode."
Really? Then why do modern Muslims object to Jews occupying the land (Israel) that Allah gave them? 10:93

Do not lift your voice when in Muhammad's presence. Those who subdue their voices are righteous and will receive an immense reward from Allah. 49:1-3

Most scholars consider Dhu'l-Qarneyn ("The Two-Horned Lord") to be Alexander the Great, who is here presented as a devout Muslim. 18:83-98

Answer 3

You should really reread djmantx's reply for your answer. He's absolutely right about the word games that Muslims play. Deceit unfortunately is a part of islam. allah is called a deceiver in the quran. Muslims believe that we are all Muslims and need to "revert", not convert. Play on words!

The truth is without Muhammad there is no islam and without islam there are no Muslims, but Christians and Jews would still exist. Jesus is still The Christ.

God Bless.

Answer 4

Muslims believe in word games. Muslim means one who submits to God. So all who ever submitted to god re Muslim event though the religion did not exist until Muhammad.
Allah means God so Allah is the God of Abraham.

The Qu'ran names prophets in name so they believe in these prophets even though they do not believe in the words of the prophets

They have the words of the Qu'ran saying Jesus is Messiah but do not believe the prophsies of the prophets that proves Jesus is the Messiah.

Words are more important than substance.

Moses taught that man was created in the triune image of God.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 1 explains God said let US create man in OUR image.

Genesis 2 shows how man is created from the dust (flesh)
God breathed life into him (spirit)
and man became a living soul (soul)

God created man above the animals more than flesh which returns to dust but with an eternal spirit.

Abraham said God would provide himself a lamb and named the place of sacrifice Jehovah-jireh.

Isaiah said the Messiah would be the lamb of God called Emmanuel (God with us) and would be a savior to his people and would atone for their sin.

Moses also taught the tree of life and also taught about false prophets that all should agree with the prophets of God and the word of God.

John the Baptist introduced Jesus saying "Behold the lamb of God."

Jesus agreed with the prophsies of Isaiah 53 and said he would fufill these prophesies.

We have the words of the prophets and all do disagree with Muhamamd and could not be Muslim.

Answer 5

Bismillāhir-Raúmānir-Raúeem

Your writing accent showed that your are either not a Muslim or very ignorant Muslim since we believe that Abraham,Moses(peace be upon them all) were the prophets of Allah so they believed in absolute oneness of Allah, and the message of his prophets, and that a Muslim is one who submits himself wholly to Allah.

May Allah help & guide us all, Amen’.

Answer 6

Moses and all prophets of God would not and are not Muslims. Moses in particular since he saved the Jews and spoke to and saw God. Muhammad, the man Muslims consider to be a prophet, did not speak to God (ever! I asked a question about that)and killed Jews or forced them to convert. How could the prophets of God and Jesus (who were Jewish) follow Islam?

Answer 7

According to scholars there are 18,000 worlds which are populated by some creation.So there are surely aliens in other planets. But the aliens that will come together are jinns and satans who were in hiding after Noah's flood inundated the whole world, waiting to attack mankind. Those satans will come with dajjal as aliens, giving it even more power.

Answer 8

Remember, before Jews, Islam, Christians, Hindu, and Buddha, the world was in turmoil. The Prophets' of these religions, were monumental in themselves, by the miracles that they performed. Simple men and women inspired by GOD, started listening to GOD, started writing and reading, when these skills were above the normal for that time in history. Most importantly, the Prophets' united different cultures in to one, beliving GOD simply IS.

Answer 9

Truth is the whole state of belief in the absolute oneness of G-d came from Judaism. Islam is a huge rip off of Judaism and all over the qur'an and hadiths you will find things word for word right from the Gemara, which is the commentary section of the Talmud(and isnt considered devine to Jews because it is just things different sages and Rabbi's said)

Answer 10

Islam has two basic meanings:
1) the religion that God gave to mankind via Muhammad (pbuh), the Muhammadan religious dispensation
2) the religion of complete obedience and submission of one's entire life to the will of God

The first definition is the conventional, the second is the deeper meaning of Islam.

Since of God's Prophets obeyed Him and completely submitted their entire lives to His Will, all Prophets practiced Islam, and thus, were Muslims. I mean "Muslim" as in the 2nd definition, not the 1st.

Btw, when I say "Prophet" I mean MAJOR Prophet. God gives His Revelation to mankind via Prophets, who bring about a new religious dispensation. I don't mean minor prophets, those who inspire people but do not bring about a new religious dispensation.

Answer 11

(Genesis account) God did speak to Abraham directly, telling him to go to a promised land, and that he would be blessed if he did so. Then as time passed and God gave him more revelations of the blessing his faith grew. God did not ask him to submit (islam) but did ask him to walk in faith. When he walked in obedience he was blessed. His righteous standing was by faith and simple obedience to God's instructions, which were not onerous.