God can do good things, and bad things but whatever he does is the right thing?

Question

Agree or disagree?
Whats your opinion on this statement?

Note: I am not really after the "He doesn't exist so this question is pointless" answer that I see so often. If you have a relevant comment though please make it regardless of what you believe.

Can people please refrain accusing me of being a Christian/faithful/whatever label they attached to this question.

Answer 1

Hundreds of thousands of dead Indonesians after that tsumani in December 2005 was the RIGHT THING?


Yeah, Id have to disagree with that statement.

Answer 2

I disagree. God cannot do whatever he wants with no consequences. If people believe in God, the harder he/she/it pushes, the more likely it is that he/she/it will lose followers. For God, at least the God of the old testament, this is something that wouldn't be appreciated. That God was extremely petty and reacted like a child to each and every transgression...even if the transgression was imagined...or even if the transgression had to be manufactured by God himself.

Question: Was it right of God to send Pharoh an ultimatum, and then use his powers to harden Pharoh's heart so that God could then kill the first born of Egypt? Was that right? No. Was it good? No. God could have softened Pharoh's heart, and his people would have been released. But, God cared more about killing Egyptians than freeing his people.

So, I don't agree. Although the Bible is replete with examples of exactly this point of view, I do NOT agree that whatever God does is the right thing. Not based on what I am told I have to accept as the truth through scripture. I just cannot accept that.

Answer 3

There is no bad that our Creator can do. He can only do good. In our under undeveloped minds it may seem different. We need to remember that He has been here a lot longer than anyone else. Permitting bad and doing bad are two very different things.

Here is a excellent article on why God permits suffering. Maybe it will help you see why He does things the way he does. He has a lot to think about that we at first don't think about.

Why God Permits Evil
From where, then, does evil come? Remember that God has opposers—principally the "one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth." (Revelation 12:9) God placed our first parents, Adam and Eve, in a trouble-free world. But Satan convinced Eve that she would be better off without God's rulership. (Genesis 3:1-5) Sadly, Eve believed Satan's lies and disobeyed God. Adam joined her in this rebellion. The result? "Death spread to all men," says the Bible.—Romans 5:12.

Rather than immediately squashing this rebellion by destroying Satan and his followers, God saw fit to allow time to pass. What would that accomplish? For one thing, it would allow Satan to be exposed as a liar! It would allow proof to accumulate that independence from God brings nothing but ruin. Is that not exactly what has taken place? "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (1 John 5:19) Furthermore, "man has dominated man to his injury." (Ecclesiastes 8:9) Mankind's religions are a maze of conflicting teachings. Morals have fallen to an all-time low. Human governments have tried every conceivable form of rule. They sign treaties and adopt laws, but the needs of the common people are still unfulfilled. Wars add misery on misery.

Clearly, we need to have God intervene and end wickedness! But this will happen only in God's due time. Until then, it is our privilege to support God's rulership by obeying his laws and principles as found in the Bible. When bad things happen, we can take comfort in the confident hope of life in a trouble-free world.

Please read the whole article right here. http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2004/3/22/article_01.htm

Answer 4

The so-called `god` of any demonination can do no wrong.
If someone asks their god for a miracle or other favour and it comes about, then that proves there definitely is a god. Co-incidence does not come into it.
If, conversley, it does not come about, then it is classed as god`s will, and, if queried further as to why it didn`t come about the answer to that is: `god moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform.
If, like a tsunami of late, a quarter of a million people are killed, then that is also `gods will, his wonders etc. etc`
Staying with the tsunami, I saw an interview with an asian who had lost his wife and five children. He said: "At first I was angry with god. Then, when I thought about it, I realised that god had sent the tsunami to strengthen my faith in him as a gesture to prove I still loved him and I love him more now than ever." So that all-caring god killed off 250,000 human beings to prove a point? Some guy, eh? He sure means business.
Words fail me to comment on that last statement. But you will notice that their answers are not my words, they are standard bible replies, answers and sayings whenever anyone queries the existence of a god. The sayings, of course, were solely made up by the people who wrote the bible in an attempt to make others see their point of view, not gods.
God, who does not exist (sorry!) would not, being as intelligent as we are led to believe would not have written such rubbish that contradicts itself time and time again.

Answer 5

no, i dont agree with that. First off, the only "evidence" that he does or has done anything is the bible. Several things in the bible i dont agree are the "right thing" like killing whores, and first born sons, and slaughtering animals for sacrifice, saying that eating shellfish is a sin, or wearing mixed fibers or any of that other BS. In order to believe what he does it the right thing, you would have to believe hes the right god. There are thousands of gods, created over hundereds of thousands of years, why is this one the right one? To me, the bible is nothing more than a handbook for tyrany. It is a method to rule over people, and to create a society of stupidity and helplessness which was the way tyrants used to rule in the past He asks you to be obedient, to ask him for help, to turn to him for your needs, and to give him money . That doesnt sound to different than a Fascist government regime now does it? Im sorry, i dont buy it. I believe jesus was a real person, but i dont believe anything else, and since i dont believe he is the true god, then not everything he did was the right thing, and since hes dead, he cant physically do anything else, he only lives on through others who believe in him and do his work on his behalf, which again is not always good

Answer 6

It really depend how you want to take it.

I used to be a very loyal Christian. And I gave thanks everyday how He has been working in my life. I still do give thanks to God everyday about HIs works in me. But I also see the opposite side of it.

Take me for example. I was isolated when I was in childhood. My childhood relationship with my parents was not good. I got three kind of disabilities. And the list go on.. So I can dwell on all the negative things as much as I want.

But I can also dwell on and be glad that what have not happened to me, such as no shelter, starving, have two leg, two arms and how I could be worse if not for God who grant the grace to me.

You see, given I have three kinds of disabilities, it might seemed I might not be able to enjoy school, etc. But so far, my school is great, I got a job, and I am almost carefree.

So did God punished me with my disabilities? Or did He loves me so that I can live each day with dignity?

It all depend how you want to take it. And I like to always appreciate others and God about how things turn out. Cuz nothing we are recieving is obligated to stay the same.

Answer 7

That's the kind of thing you expect to hear from people who live under oppressive governments (my leaders seem to do terrible things, but I know it's for my own good), or from people who practice blind patriotism (my country, right or wrong).

If you read about the horrible atrocities committed in the name of God in the Old Testament, there's no way you can rationalize them by saying it was the "right" thing. "God works in mysterious ways" is just a way to dodge all of this and not have to come to terms with it. So is the "God gave us free will" argument.

Just think for yourself. When you do, you probably won't be interested anymore in worshipping such a monster.

Answer 8

The phrase "the best of all possible worlds" (French: le meilleur des mondes possibles) was coined by the German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz in his 1710 work Essais de Théodicée sur la bonté de Dieu, la liberté de l'homme et l'origine du mal (Theodicy). It is the central argument in Leibniz's theodicy, or his attempt to solve the problem of evil.

Among his many philosophical interests and concerns, Leibniz took on this question of theodicy: how, if God is good, omnipotent and omniscient, do we account for the suffering and injustice that exists in the world? Historically, the question has been answered with all number of philosophical arguments, for example, by explaining away evil or reconciling evil with good.[1] For Leibniz, also of central concern is the matter of reconciling human freedom (indeed, God's own freedom) with the determinism inherent in his own theory of the universe.[2]

Leibniz' solution casts God as a kind of "optimizer" of the collection of all original possibilities: Since He is good and omnipotent, and since He chose this world out of all possibilities, this world must be good--in fact, this world is the best of all possible worlds.[3]

Answer 9

I agree with you.
I have to clarify a point made by a previous poster. God is not the hurricane that killed people, just like He is not cancer. Just because God created life, does not make him responsible for all things that life does. He made us, yet He is not responsible for the choices that I make. He created the ocean and the wind, but he did not cause the tsunami.

He created this earth for us to learn and grow and become more like Him, our Father. Of course, none of us will reach perfection in this life, which is the reason He sent Jesus Christ, to atone for our imperfections and overcome death and sin. His Atonement will cause all those killed by the tsunami to be resurrected with a perfect body. Not just them, but all of us will inherit a perfected body. We can reach spiritual perfection through obedience and repentance, too, but that is another story.

Bottom line - God loves us, He hurts when we hurt. I know that so strongly - when I lay in a coma and in the hospital and through my recovery, He held me. I promise you. I can still feel Him close when I pray. I owe my recovery and everything in my power to Him. He loves me enough to let me experience life and figure things out for myself.

Answer 10

You will never get from me that He does not exist - He truly does! And your statement is one that I completely agree with,except if you don't mind I want to expand on the bad things a bit. Good is good all the time, and he does the right thing. He allows bad things to happen for a reason to turn it around for good. I am just clarifying that for people who may think that God is bad sometimes.