Why do some believers consider the theory of evolution to be a conspiracy ?

Question

I've been reading some answers suggesting that scientists have made up such a theory in order to somehow disprove the existence of God !

Now I have a simple question for you : How could this theory prove or disprove the existence of God ?

How could we still continue to ignore the scientific proofs and refuse to look through this awe-inspiring window that the natural sciences has opened for us on the reality of the nature and the Universe ?

Don't you find the naturalistic explanations about the begining of life, which involve the formation of complex organisms from incredibly simple principles, to be far more beautiful and amazing than the simplistic hypothesis of a instantanous creation ?

You as a believer, do you really prefer to imagine a personal God so clumsy that he would have to intervene contantly and personally in order to adjust every detail of his creation ? Wouldn't such a God seem to you as rather weak and unimpressive ?

Thanks for your intelligent answers !

Answer 1

John Dewey lived back in the early 1900's. He was an atheist, he loved psychology, he loved the Soviet Union and thought it was the greatest country in the history of the world. He hated religion, especially christianity. He was quite open about what he planned to do. He wasn't trying to hide anything. His books are still in the library. He said that he wanted to change the culture in this country from a christian culture to a secular humanist/atheist culture and he was going to use the school system to do it by brainwashing the kids from the time they were knee-high to a grasshopper. He was one of the founders of the secular humanist movement and was one of the writers of the 'secular humanist manifesto' which was signed in 1933. Who was John Dewey. He was the founder of the progressive education system that we use in our public schools today.
You said "Now I have a simple question for you : How could this theory(evolution) prove or disprove the existence of God" ? That's irrelevant. If you are trying to turn this country into a secular/atheist nation, you need some theory that can explain things without the need of a God. People are not stupid. They can see that everything exists. There is only two ways it all could have come about: 1)by divine creation 2)by some kind of natural means. But everywhere you look you see design. It's common sense that where there is design, there must be a designer. If you don't want people to believe in a designer of the universe, you had better come up with some kind of theory that explains everything without a designer.
As far as scientific proof for evolution, there is none. Anybody who says there is no God is just not thinking straight In your brain there are 100 billion neurons. Each one of those neurons(remember, there's 100 billion of them) is connected to 1000 other neurons. That comes out to 100 trillion connections in your brain. These connections send electronic signals(and you can measure the electricity) from one place to another. If part of the brain is damaged and you lose some function that is controlled by that part of the brain, the brain can actually re-wire itself and let other neurons in the undamaged part of the brain take over so that you can get back that function. That's only the connections in the brain, not the rest of the body.
Our bodies also have tons of information in the DNA. You have enough information in your DNA to fill encyclopedia sized books stacked from here to the moon and back 500 times. The information storage capacity of DNA is far superior to any computer that humans have ever built. DNA can hold more information in a fifth of a teaspoon than a trillion CD’s. Do you really think that came about by just random chance........kind of like a monkey typing out the works of Shakespear just by randomly plucking away at the keys?
You need to step back and look at the big picture of what is being claimed by evolution, namely, that the unbelieveable complexity of the human brain(not to mention the rest of the body) is nothing more than re-arranged pond scum. It’s pond scum from the original prebiotic soup re-arranged over billions of years into 100 trillion connections in the brain by luck…..just random chance.
In the last 30 years, a number of prominent scientists
have attempted to calculate the odds that a freeliving,
single-celled organism, such as a bacterium,
might result by the chance combining of preexistent
building blocks. Harold Morowitz calculated the odds
as one chance in 10 to the100,000,000,000th. That number is 1 with 100 billion zeroes behind it. Sir Fred Hoyle calculated
the odds of only the proteins of an amoebae arising by
chance as one chance in 10 to the 40,000th.
When you consider that the chance of winning a state
lottery every week of your life from age 18 to age 99
is about one in 4.6 x10 to the 29,120th, the odds calculated by
Morowitz and Hoyle are staggering.
These odds led Fred Hoyle to state that the probability
of spontaneous generation .is about the same as the
probability that a tornado sweeping through a junk
yard could assemble a 747 from the contents therein.
Mathematicians tell us that any event with an improbability
greater than one chance in 10 to the 50th is in the
realm of metaphysics.i.e., a miracle.
I have been debating with atheists on this internet for a long time now. This is world wide and some of them have masters and doctorate degrees. I've never had one yet give me any evidence for evolution. I f you have some evidence, my e-mail address is on my profile. I'd like to hear about it.
I have a wristwatch on my wrist. Most engineers would call that a simple machine. The wrist that it sits upon is a quintillion times more complex than the wristwatch. To say that the wristwatch needs a designer but the wrist doesn't is logically nonsense.
"Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. The theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless".
Professor Louis Bounoure, Director of Research, National Center of Science Research(France).
"Scientist who go about teaching that evolution is a fact are great con men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact". Dr. T.N. Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission.

Answer 2

Can't say I don't agree with you on most of your post.
But the theory of evolution does disprove the Bible, not God, just the Bible. A lot of people like to take the Bible literally, rather than figuratively, and believe that every word was written by, or inspired by, God himself. Evolution disproves that the Universe was created 6000 years ago in 6 days, with man the final creation, and made of clay, certainly not descended from some Ape common-ancestor.
That's a big one too. A lot of people just can't stomach the idea of having come from the same ancestors as have Chimpanzees.
So, while I think your description is far more beautiful than that of the Bible, I do see and understand why they would feel that way.

Answer 3

It is not a conspiracy at all, just a false belief that people rally around when they really do not understand what it entails.

The theory of evolution being correct challenges the idea of God and his relationship with us, if creationism is true there is a personal God that cares what we do, if evolution is true at best there is an impersonal God that does not care what we do and at worst there is no God at all.

Those incredibly simple principles have yet to be discovered by the way so I guess it is a little more complex than you thought.

The God that involves himself with humans is anything but weak and powerless.

Answer 4

I don't consider it to be a conspiracy, but I do consider it to be wrong.

There's not enough proof to be able to declare that evolution is how it happened. That's not to say there's enough tangible proof that creationism is the correct theory, but until scientists can come up with an acceptable theory of what happened prior to the big bang, the idea that everything just occurred for no reason and without a hand guiding it seems like nonsense to me.

I don't believe everything about the Bible. I do believe that there had to have been some kind of god that created the universe, even if it was by causing the big bang. It couldn't have come out of nothing on it's own.

Answer 5

Sciences have existed for ages in many civilizations, and have also been considered gifts of the heavens. Only civilizations in this arrogant Era consider themselves so ignorants as to have come from the monkey and to have no divinity at all.

They believe they came from monkeys.

They belive it is smart to print money, then distribute the money (but not evenly), and then use this paper or credit to buy things that could have been free or shared.

They believe in the phantom theory of balance of economics with offers and demands.

They believe in free commerce were everybody produce in excess creating pollution and destroying nature.

They believe they are free when one is a slave for a bigger one, and two bigger ones sale each other garbage.

They believe in sending their kids early to school (taking away from them their chilhood) to learn all the lies the parents believe in.

They believe in Technology yet they make nasty games instead of eliminating printed mail and save trees.

They believe in Democracy yet the rich always win the battle.

They believe in the government financing the unemployed and the poor while the rich plays golf and go fishing.

And they also maybe believe that I am a menace to their evil world for saying the truth the same as Jesus and John the Baptist did.

Thing is, I don't think much less, of those who do or support crime based on following a man's cult or ideology. Ignoring the fact that this man's goal is money and power.

Answer 6

I don't refer to the TOE as a conspiracy. I'm not a science person to begin with, but why do people assume that when God made/created man it was an instantaneous creation? I'm also not one who believes in a 6,000 year old earth, either, but was the carbon content of the earth the same , say 20,000 years ago as it is today? Were there any cosmic occurrences that happened to change any of this? If so, does that throw carbon dating off? Remembering of course I know nothing of science, but maybe someone can explain it to me.

Answer 7

The ones that fear it do so because they have defined their God by a book they consider Holy and Infallible. It's the Christian Idol.

As a follower of the lessons of Jesus I have a different viewpoint. My God is so big and he so transcends this universe that he completely encompasses ALL science and physical phenomenon. There is no contradiction for me between God and science.

In fact the Gnostics taught that this universe is an accident of a creation eleven times removed from the Father, which might have something to do with the number of dimensions. This accident is the Demiurge and is the God of moses. The Father Jesus speaks of is the source which would be like a God to the Demiurge which created heaven, earth, and man.

Check my 360 page for some cool Gnostic Gospels.

Answer 8

2 Peter 3: 8 "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

This is just one verse but it totally explains it to me. God's time is not the same as ours. This one little verse tells me that people have been going about it the wrong way in trying to say it was either evolution or creation. I think people are so quick to think they must choose one or the other. I believe that evolution is PART of creation. I have heard it described that science is merely a way of explaining to our human minds how God accomplished all that he did. Why cant both be part of the same thing. Even Darwin said at the end of his life that his theory of evolution is wrong.

Answer 9

5:6 Could monkeys type the 23rd Psalm? Grigg, www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v13/i1/monkeys.asp

In 1860 a debate between Thomas Huxley and Bishop Samuel Wilberforce turned the tide in the public’s acceptance of evolution. Bishop Wilberforce had published a review of Darwin’s book of which Darwin commented, “It is uncommonly clever; it picks out with skill all the most conjectural parts, and brings forward well all the difficulties.” Bishop Wilberforce presented several scientific arguments, and Huxley suggested that, given enough time and material, six monkeys could type the 23rd Psalm simply by randomly punching the keys. It is reported that the bishop had no response, despite his training in mathematics. So what is the answer to Huxley’s argument of time and chance?

Assuming a 50-key typewriter to accommodate letters, numbers, and punctuation, the chance of typing “THE” is one in 50 x 50 x 50 (50-3), or one in 125,000. At a rate of one strike per second this would take 34.72 hours. For the phrase “THE LORD” the chance becomes 50-8 and requires 1,238,663.7 years. The entire Psalm requires 9.552 x 101016 years to complete on average. The age of the universe is only 15 billion years according to evolutionists, so the probability is clearly outside of the realm of possibility. (It is possible that the event can happen at any given point in the trials, but the difference in time needed and time allowed is unreasonable.)

When considering the probability of the assembly of a DNA molecule, the same problems arise. Harold J. Morowitz, professor of biophysics at Yale, has calculated that the formation of one E. coli bacteria in the universe at 10-100,000,000,000, or one in 10 to the power of 100 billion. Sir Fred Hoyle has offered the analogy of a tornado passing through a junkyard and assembling a Boeing 747, “nonsense of a high order” in his words. Natural selection cannot be the mechanism that caused life to form from matter as it can only work on a complete living organism.


PS//// God never intended to have to intervene (as you say) in His "imperfect creations" lives as he does now. He created us perfectly but he gave us a will to choose Him.... We decided NOT to choose Him, bringing sin to the world & we had to be sent away from His side. All this intervening you elude to-is his extention of grace, a 'second chance'.....

Answer 10

I do not believe it was a conspiracy because God cannot be disproven or proven, he is amatter of belief. No matter what anyone tries to do you can turn it around and say god did it. Like we can say God created evolution so that we shape our own bodies, so that we become how we treat God's earth. And i do believe in God yet at the same time i believe in evolution, because it simply supports his reason of creation. Now if he created us right away we would be different because the environment wouldn't have played a role in shaping us, that is why i believe evolution exists, because the earth does.