He is his own father and sacrificed himself to himself to appease his need for sacrifice.
I need to sit down.
2007-09-10 10:12:38 · 28 answers · asked by Kermit 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Well, once upon a time the council of Nicaea got bored. They thought, "What can we do?"
"I know what, lets make up some doctrine that will confuse people for hundreds of years!"
And that's what they did. The best part about this doctrine is it makes people debate for years something that is plain to see in the bible; that God and Jesus are not the same person.
If you don't understand it, it's because the council of Nicaea are smarter than us.
Here are a few more scriptures to confuse you:
Matthew 6:9 “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.”
Jesus taught his disciples to pray to himself who was actually on earth but in heaven (makes perfect sense).
John 14:28 “My Father is greater than I.”
Jesus and God are equal, but yet God is greater than Jesus (makes perfect sense)
Luke 22:42 “Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.”
Jesus was once again talking to himself, and he wished to do something other than what God wanted even though they are "one in essence" (makes perfect sense)
Hebrews 5:7, 8 - "In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered"
Jesus here is crying out to himself, and Jesus "learned" even though he is God and God doesn't need to learn (makes perfect sense)
Hebrews 9:24 - "For Christ entered...into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us."
Jesus here was obviously looking into the mirror in heaven at himself who is God (makes perfect sense)
Mark 13:32 - "“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father"
Jesus was known to keep secrets from HIMSELF (makes perfect sense)
Need I go on?
2007-09-11 02:08:44 · answer #1 · answered by Paul S 4 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Whether it makes "sense" or not, it isn't in the Holy Bible and it was not taught by the Lord Jesus Christ.
JESUS said that his Father was "the only true God." (John 17:3) Not Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Just the Father.
Jesus would know. So all the philosophizing about a Trinity is meaningless.
2007-09-11 01:59:28 · answer #2 · answered by בַר אֱנָשׁ (bar_enosh) 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
a million. With a Logical Disjunction that's achieveable for one or the two operands to be genuine. 2. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. learn Joel 2:28. Acts 2:4, 17. 3. God is Spirit. Joh 4:24. That that's generated by Spirit is spirit. Joh 3:6, 8. Ecc 11:5. That that's generated by flesh is flesh. Joh 3:6, 8. Ecc 11:5. 1Co 15:40 4 "that's sown a organic physique; that's raised a spiritual physique. there's a organic physique, and there's a spiritual physique." in user-friendly terms the Lord's flesh physique died. 4. Deu 6:4 pay attention, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. ONE = 259 'echad ekh-awd' a numeral from 258; suitable, UNITED, i.e. one; or (as an ORDINAL) first 5. Hebrews a million:5-6. "And enable all of the angels of God worship him." and Deuteronomy 32:40 3 (Septuagint) 6. He did no longer say, "do no longer call me good". He asked, "Why callest...?" a question isn't a assertion. 7. "See"? it is obscure. Please articulate. 8. I pray to God. 9. No, yet "the appropriate hand of the Majesty on extreme". Hebrews a million:3. 10. the appropriate hand is positioned for skill. Hebrews a million:3. 11. How I "experience" is unimportant. 12. definite, yet i do no longer pay interest to them. 13. Deu 6:4 pay attention, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. ONE = 259 'echad ekh-awd' a numeral from 258; suitable, UNITED, i.e. one; or (as an ORDINAL) first 14. speaking of "will", no longer "means". John 5:30. 15. Hebrews a million:5-6.
2016-10-10 08:05:11 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nope. It is one of those things accepted as scriptural which actually has it's roots in pagandom. Triune or three headed gods go way back to Egypt and the Assyrians. Christ's very own disciples never taught it (why wouldn't they) and even the New Catholic Encyclopedia that the teaching didn't surface until hundreds of years after Jesus' death.
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OK some secular quotes:
The Encyclopedia of Religion: "Theologians agree that the New Testament Writers also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."
The New Encyclopedia Britanica: "Neither the word Trinity or the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."
The New Catholic Encyclopedia: "The formulation 'one god in three persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Chriistian life and it's profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th Century.... Among the Apostolic fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."
2007-09-10 10:27:01 · answer #4 · answered by Q&A Queen 7 · 8⤊ 2⤋
Confusing is right. You can thank the council of Nicaea for the Trinity doctrine. You know, where a committee got together to decide the nature of God? Yep, that's the one. God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct individuals who are one in purpose, and that purpose is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
2007-09-10 10:40:18 · answer #5 · answered by Dave F 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
That's why you have faiths like the Mormons that believe in three seperate beings, God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. As shown in the Bible.
You can think about it all you want, you aren't going to explain the trinity. But it's always one of the funnest subjects to discuss.
2007-09-10 10:46:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
It doesnt make sense because when the Christians ganked it from the Goddess religion of the Celts, they kinda screwed it up. It's like the maiden, mother and crone, only it really doensnt work with their theology. Christians.. cant do ANYTHING right...
Sausage- I LMAO at your post when I read it... my pug is named Jello, and I just pictured her crammed into a phone booth with 100 other dogs.. was very amusing...
2007-09-11 01:24:55 · answer #7 · answered by Goddess Nikki 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Trinity itself never makes sense to me either. This is a man-made doctrine and people should already know that. I’m wondering how Jehovah feels about this false doctrine held by millions of people?
2007-09-10 14:49:27 · answer #8 · answered by The Female Gamer 2 · 7⤊ 0⤋
‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’
- Col. Robert G. Ingersoll
God is not the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33)
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2007-09-10 10:16:53 · answer #9 · answered by Mithrianity 3 · 7⤊ 4⤋
I find it interesting that most people leave out or don't even know what to do with the third, the Holy Spirit.
2007-09-10 10:22:50 · answer #10 · answered by mel 4 · 5⤊ 0⤋