Did you know that Jesus is not God? He never claimed to be God, but only His servant..?

Question

If Jesus was truly the God of heaven and earth, why does he not even know the date of "His" own coming? For he says, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt 24:36) As you can see, Jesus does not claim to know the day or hour he will return. Furthermore, Jesus makes known here that he is not the Father. For if the trinity truly did exist, and so there is just one God, monotheism, then Jesus would be the Father, or also the "Spirit." Since there "is just one God."
Thus, Jesus would simply come as a Father, or the Spirit; that is if the trinity doctrine were to be true, but it is not. Rather it is a false doctrine!

The teaching of a 'trinity God' is one of the main reasons why Jews will not accept Jesus as their messiah, for 'Christians' claim that Jesus is God, but he never said this, and in fact denies it in Matthew 19...

Answer 1

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Dear HaShem's Servant,

What an appropriate name, for you are representing Him correctly, for I have seen your other postings as well.

Most people do not realize that Yehoshua [that is Jesus for those of you that are do not know his Hebrew name, even] was a Jew or an Israeli, and that his disciples were also Jews and Israelis. Likewise, the faith and religion that all of them practiced was the faith of their ancestors, that is Judaism!!! Yehoshua and the 12 main disciples, (and even Paul before he converted away from Judaism to invent a non-authorized religion - mainly a faith very close to the vile baptist and protestant faiths of modern times, and the likes of so-called "non-denominational" faiths such as "Calvary Chapel" that originated in California [practically identical to Baptists]) practiced the faith of the God of Israel, as I said above, that is Judaism!


Judaism has NEVER taught, since the days of Adam, that the future moshiach [the christ or 'anointed one' for those of you that are unlearned in the ways of Jesus' religion] is 'God' or the God of Israel. "Why is that?" you might ask. Well, from the days of Adam the holy Torah from HaShem says, "So Yehowah Elohim said to the serpent.... "I [the God of Israel] will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

Notice that it says, "he will crush," not "I will crush?" Likewise, it says, "you will strike his heel," not "...my heel." Thus, showing the moshiach is not divine, nor the God of Israel. This is in Bereshit (Genesis) 3:14-15.



Again, what else does the Torah teach [or the holy Torah of HaShem]? Let's look:

It says:

"Yehowah said to me [Moshe/Moses]: "What they say is good. I will raise up for them a prophet like you [Moshe] from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

Notice that it does not say "I, Yehowah will be among them." Also, it says that Yehowah will put His words in someone else's mouth, meaning that the "someone else" is not Yehowah!!! This whole passage teaches that Yehowah is not this "prophet." This passage is found in Devarim (Deuteronomy) 18:17-20.

What about the Tanakh [the Jewish Bible - falsely called the "OLD" Testament]? What does it say concerning the moshiach [messiah/christ] of Y'israel [Israel}? Let me use the common passages that pagans and those that do not know the scriptures and do greatly err use.

Let us start off with the holy and righteous prophet named Micah: In chapter 5 there is a well known messianic passage, this passage will introduce a doctrine in which so-called "followers of Jesus" miss, as well as Muslims. Even though I say "introduce" it is already known in Genesis and in many other books long before coming to Micah's book. Nonetheless, when talking to non-Jews and to even many Jews, I like using this particular passage first many times. Let's read:

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for Me [Yehowah]
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
during the age of eternity [literally: before the counting of time]."



First of all, who is talking to Micah? Well, in this very passage we can see that it is Yehowah who is talking to Micah, but if one is still not sure you can read Chapter 1 v. 1, for it says, "The word of Yehowah that came to Micah of Moresheth during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah."



Notice that in the selected passage it says, "come for Me," not "I will come." Again, notice that it says "whose origins," not "My origins."


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Answer 2

Did you know that you are WRONG????
Jesus Christ is God in the Flesh. Immanuel (God is with us)
Jesus said "I and the Father are one."
Jesus said " If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father also."
Jesus accepted worship. Jesus forgave sins. Only God can do these things.
Jesus said to Phillip "Why do you say 'Show me the Father?' Have you been with Me all this time, and still do not know Me?"
While Jesus was on the earth, He did not know when He would be coming the second time. He is now in Heaven, sitting at the Father's right hand. I'm sure He knows it now.
GODHEAD = Father, Son, Holy Spirit=3 persons in ONE GOD. NOT 3 GODS!!!! Together they make one God. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Either you accept Him or you don't. Jesus Christ is God.
"In the beginning was the WORD (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. HE (Jesus) was in the beginning with God. All things were made THROUGH HIM and without Him nothing was made. In HIM was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, AND THE DARKNESS DID NOT COMPREHEND IT." John 1:1-5
It can't get much clearer than this.

Answer 3

Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the exact words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” At first glance, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement, “We are not stoning you for any of these, replied the Jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood Jesus’ statement to be a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus never corrects the Jews by saying, “I did not claim to be God.” That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!" Again, in response, the Jews take up stones in an attempt to stone Jesus (John 8:59). Why would the Jews want to stone Jesus if He hadn’t said something they believed to be blasphemous, namely, a claim to be God?
John 1:1 says that “the Word was God.” John 1:14 says that “the Word became flesh.” This clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, "...Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood." Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased the church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior - Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, "But about the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom."
In Revelation, an angel instructed the Apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9,17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation had. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2). Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected - proving His victory over sin and death.

Answer 4

Jesus is the Son of God, no one goes to the Father except they go through him first, Jesus is one with God.
The teaching of a 'trinity God' is not one of the main reasons they do not accept Jesus as Messiah.
They sat theirselves up as examples and didn't want to give up any power or authority to the Messiah, Jesus and they had him killed, they are still waiting for Messiah and will eventually come to accept the Anti-Christ as Messiah. Some Jews do accept Jesus as Messiah. Jesus did claim to be the Son of God, the Messiah.

Answer 5

Thank you. Yes, I know that Jesus is God's son, not God. The scripture you cite is a perfect example of how the trinity just doesn't work. There are a few more, such as when Jesus said the Father is greater; pray this way, Our Father. Also, I've always wondered how people who believe in the trinity explain who Jesus prayed to, and why Jesus would say, Father, forgive them during his execution. When Jesus said the Father and I are one, he meant of one mind and purpose. That must have been obvious to his followers, but is so misinterpreted now. There is only one true God. He allowed Jesus to suffer immeasurably for mankind, and Jesus did so willingly. Jesus knew his place and never told his followers to pray to him or to worship him.

Answer 6

First of all, Jews had Jesus killed because they wanted to win some kind of "popularity contest". They felt that he was under minding there authority. Jesus was a man. Born of a women, just like the rest of us. What he did was live the life of a man, and try to teach everyone about his father...our father. He is our brother in God, because God is our father. He was empowered by our Lord, and filled with the holy spirit. That is the holy trinity. The Father spoke through the son by way of the holy spirit. Just as a man speaks through his son by way of constant teaching. The Lord could not directly speak to Jesus because he was just a man. So his message was delivered by the holy spirit, a message sent directly to his soul.

Answer 7

John 8:58--"Before Abraham was, I AM."

Apparently this was enough of a claim to being God that the people wanted to stone him on the spot. If you question what Jesus was actually saying, read Exodus 3 to find out what he was referencing.

The comment of Jesus, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God," in Matthew 19 was a question to the asker, roughly meaning, "By saying that I am good, you are acutally admitting that you believe that I am God. Is this what you are truly doing?"

Answer 8

The trinity is for the purpose of helping man understand GOD. Jesus meant that in HIS human form i.e. the SON he did not know the hour. But HE is GOD(john 10:30)

Answer 9

While Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. Even the demons, who "believe there is one God," knew from their experience in the spirit realm that Jesus was not God. So, correctly, they addressed Jesus as the separate "Son of God." (James 2:19; Matthew 8:29) And when Jesus died, the pagan Roman soldiers standing by knew enough to say that what they had heard from his followers must be right, not that Jesus was God, but that "certainly this was God's Son."—Matthew 27:54.

Hence, the phrase "Son of God" refers to Jesus as a separate created being, not as part of a Trinity. As the Son of God, he could not be God himself, for John 1:18 says: "No one has ever seen God."

The disciples viewed Jesus as the "one mediator between God and men," not as God himself. (1 Timothy 2:5) Since by definition a mediator is someone separate from those who need mediation, it would be a contradiction for Jesus to be one entity with either of the parties he is trying to reconcile. That would be a pretending to be something he is not.

The Bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jehovah God alone is Almighty. He created the prehuman Jesus directly. Thus, Jesus had a beginning and could never be coequal with God in power or eternity.

Answer 10

God calls Jesus God:
8But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."
(Hebrews 1)

The Jews knew what he was saying:
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." (John 10)

He did too admit that he is God:
30 "I and the Father are one."
(John 10)

So you need to be clear on this. If the Bible has God calling the Son "God" , then who are you getting what you are saying from? And from what source. My examples are from the Bible. Where is yours?

Answer 11

No praise to Allah today, sorry.

- Jesus is the WORD of God (John 1). Simple and clear.
- God used the WORD to create heavens & the earth.
- It's the same WORD that God spoken that later became flesh (Jesus), John 1.

When you speak, the word you speak is still a part of you. Yet it does not have all the functions/abilities that you have.

See, nice and simple:)