Which is Biblical, Calvinism or Arminianism?

Question

This is the top debate at my Christian University (Southeastern in Lakeland, FL).

Answer 1

I'll echo what Steve said, but add that Arminianism has quite a few logical errors when you think about it. For instance, God's foreknowledge somehow working with free will. In other words, God, knowing who would and wouldn't choose Him, created us anyway, therefore "setting us up" for destruction. Or, if he created Hell, how can he be sad about sending the sinner there? All that "For God so loved the world" talk was only an offer after all. And God is schizophrenic.

And how about Jesus' atoning work on the cross? An offer? I thought they were paid for! How does the unsaved person get punished if those sins were paid for??? Nonacceptance doesn't negate the payment. Either way "Christ died for all mankind" is a conundrum. Either everyone goes to Heaven, or those in Hell are innocent. Or the Arminian must deny Hell entirely.

If grace can be resisted, where is God's almighty power? It sits unused, on the sidelines, where God sits waiting, begging (praying?) for the sinner to come to Him. Losing salvation, same thing, God is powerless, the Holy Spirit impotent, the Son making only a partial payment at best. Even sanctification, all on you allowing God to work, the creature commanding the Creator! Laughable.

Evangelism. Applause, applause. Yayyy, I saved you, oops, glory to God I guess. Yayyyy, I accepted Jesus, authorized God to come into my heart, told him what to do. Glory to me, oops, glory to God, I guess.

Go with Arminianism and you get "birth dates." When were you saved? Everybody gets to point to their eyes being opened by themselves, an unbelievable feat for people who were supposedly DEAD in their sins. And God once again gets swept under the rug, the One who chose us FROM ETERNITY, not October 4, 2003.

There's more, I haven't even touched on baptism and the age of reason fallacies that are the results of Arminianism. The theology is one big pretzel of confusion. It is humanist, it is arrogant, and as Steve said, it's heretical.

Answer 2

whether that's or is not greater Biblical, i will permit you p.c., yet here, interior the words of John Wesley are the factors of opposition: ' yet there is an basic distinction between the Calvinists and Arminians, with connection with the three different questions. here they divide; the former have confidence absolute, the latter purely conditional, predestination. The Calvinists carry, (a million.) God has truthfully decreed, from all eternity, to keep such and such persons, and no others; and that Christ died for those, and none else. The Arminians carry, God has decreed, from all eternity, touching all that have the written be conscious, "He that believeth would be saved: He that believeth no longer, would be condemned:" And as a manner to this, "Christ died for all, all that have been lifeless in trespasses and sins;" this is, for each toddler of Adam, considering the fact that "in Adam all died." The Calvinists carry, Secondly, that the saving grace of God is truthfully impossible to stand as much as; that no guy is any further waiting to stand up to it, than to stand up to the stroke of lightning. The Arminians carry, that besides the reality that there is a few moments wherein the grace of God acts irresistibly, yet, customarily, any guy could face up to, and that to his eternal smash, the grace wherein it grow to be the choose of God he ought to have been endlessly saved. The Calvinists carry, Thirdly, that a real believer in Christ can't probable fall from grace. The Arminians carry, that a real believer could "make shipwreck of religion and a solid experience of right and incorrect;" that he could fall, no longer purely foully, yet finally, as a manner to perish for ever. certainly, the two latter factors, impossible to stand as much as grace and infallible perseverance, are the organic results of the former, of the unconditional decree. For if God has endlessly and truthfully decreed to keep such and such persons, it follows, the two that they won't be able to stand up to his saving grace, (else they could omit of salvation,) and that they won't be able to finally fall from that grace which they won't be able to stand up to. so as that, in result, the three questions come into one, "Is predestination absolute or conditional?" The Arminians have confidence, that's conditional; the Calvinists, that that's absolute ' Peace to you.

Answer 3

Well I don't know what Arminianism is but Calvinism, close but no cigar, they cancel out the unlimited atonement and therefore, proposing God as being unfair and unjust. Instead, because God foreknew our volition, that some would and some would not believe according to their own free will and that and only that is how we became predestined (as he already knew who would and would not believe). Calvinists believe God chose a "certain bunch" which cancels out Jesus dying on the cross for "the WORLD's sin" and WHOSOEVER believes in him shall have eternal life.

So Calvinists aren't biblical in that sense as it is described in org., languages. 1/2 the question answered LOL

Answer 4

Neither.

The believer posesses eternal life and is eternally secure in Christ.

Our Lord said:

'I am the ressurection and the life, he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. And he that liveth and believeth in me shall never die.'

If a person believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, she will never die.

Contrary to Calvinism, the Bible does teach that a Christian can fall into apostasy or serious sin. However, this will be punished with chastening, premature death and loss of rewards, not by hell.

Answer 5

I grew up in a Jewish environment, and believe to keen student of the Bible, I would like to express my opinion that predestination is not a testamentary concept, it was believed and practiced by the Essenes at Qumran, the Greek PROHORIZO means exactly that you are either chosen for life or for death. Is it any simpler?

Answer 6

The faith in the Lord Jesus can be based only on good foundation, on the Gospel. " Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in one spirit, contending as one man for the faith of the gospel ".............Philppians 1:27.

Answer 7

Neither is biblical. The calvinists are wrong for turning "perseverance" into a work, and for the "limited atonement" thing. The arminians are wrong for saying that you can lose your salvation (it is impossible to lose salvation).

Answer 8

Arminianism is a heresy, a serious departure from the historic faith of the Christian church. Arminius, a theological professor at the University of Leyden, departed from the historic faith in his teaching concerning five important points. He taught conditional election on the ground of foreseen faith, universal atonement, partial depravity, resistible grace, and the possibility of a lapse from grace.

The Bible teaches that God elected his people in Christ before time began. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world ..." (Eph. 1:4). This election was out of God's mere free grace and love, with nothing in the creature as a condition or cause inducing him to do this. "(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) ... So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy" (Rom. 9:11, 16).


The Bible teaches that Christ did his atoning work on behalf of his elect people, and no others. "Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it" (Eph. 5:25). "I lay down my life for the sheep" (John 10:15). "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine" (John 17:9).


The Bible teaches total depravity, that is, that man, in every part of his nature (intellect, emotions and will) is hopelessly ruined by the fall. Fallen man is dead in trespasses and sins and cannot give himself spiritual birth. Regeneration is entirely the working of our gracious, sovereign God. "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins" (Eph. 2:1). "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13).


The Bible teaches that God is absolutely sovereign and all-powerful. "... the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will ... and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" (Dan. 4:32, 35). "The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power ..." (Ps. 110:2-3). "For who hath resisted his will?" (Rom. 9:19). "Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth" (Rev. 19:6). If God's will cannot be resisted, then his grace cannot be resisted either; his grace is irresistible.


The Bible teaches that Christ's true sheep have eternal life and shall never perish. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand" (John 10:27-29).


Since the teachings of Arminianism are contrary to Scripture, they are manifestly false. They are serious perversions of the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is only one gospel, not two. Anyone who preaches any other gospel is preaching a false gospel and is accursed. "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed" (Gal. 1:8-9).

Answer 9

Both are not biblical.
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Answer 10

NEITHER!!!!