Since I don't believe in biblegod, does everyone for the rest of eternity get punished for my 'sins'? And shouldn't god had KNOWN Eve was gonna' eat the apple, if he's omniscient? So why punish for that which he knew was going to happen in the first place?
2007-09-09 13:43:36 · 27 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Well use APPLE as an example.
2007-09-09 13:48:16 · update #1
Starryeyed, good point- But, being omniscient, shouldn't he had known the essance of the beings he created.
2007-09-09 13:52:36 · update #2
Pagan Dan- Trust me, if I were 'poking' at someone, it would be a lot less irrefutable.
2007-09-09 13:57:46 · update #3
All I have to say is that the christian mythology makes no sense at all.
It is just a rehash of previous mythologies, if you check into the Pandora's story you will see a striking similarity with the Eve's story.
2007-09-09 13:54:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Don't confuse the "how thigs happened" childrens storyies with real philosophical answers.
The story is meant to explain how things are. It is not suposed to be a diffinitive answer.
People only suffer because of what happens to then, or what they do. Eve was only the first of a long line of people who found the concequenses not what were expected.
It is only that seeing "good and evil" removes one from "paradise". It is simply a coming into adulthood story. Before they ate they were children. After they ate they were adults, on thier own.
2007-09-09 14:00:34 · answer #2 · answered by bahbdorje 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Good points.
Except, omniscient really could be interpreted to mean,
Knowledge of all things that ARE", not will be.
The notion of Free Will completely excludes knowledge of All Things To Come.
Thus, we are the exception,
in this very flawed religious paradigm,
to the rule of the Existence of God and onmipotence and omniscience.
Personally, I think the Cosmos are bigger than all the capacities of knowledge held by anthing, and the Cosmos had to exist before a Presence, not the other way around, if there even is any presence.
2007-09-09 13:50:01 · answer #3 · answered by starryeyed 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Actually God gave us this gift: The Freedom Of Choice!
We can choose weather we will sin or not...
Eve had that choice...
The only ones that get punished for what Eve did are women...
The punishment being hard labor during birth, and
woman hating the serpent....
Man also sinned by listening to woman and taking a bite of the forbidden fruit....
So it isn't just woman's sin that brought us to this....
The Bible don't mention the fruit being and apple...
No one actually knows what the fruit was that was eaten in the garden of Eden....
Man's punishment for eating the fruit was to work the ground for his life time to make a living for his family....
Actually men usually like their jobs so the punishment isn't all that bad, and the woman as she looks upon her child she gives birth to forgets the pain that brought the child...
I hope that answers your question....
2007-09-09 13:57:24 · answer #4 · answered by TRUE GRIT 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
God made a law saying that children should not be punished for their parents' sins, and vice versa, yet he brought curses upon all of humanity just because two people sinned--and then, it was because they didn't even know right from wrong and could hardly be expected to understand the consequences of their behavior. God breaks his own rules all the time. Would anyone vote for a politician like that?
2007-09-09 13:50:20 · answer #5 · answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It wasn't an apple. And the sin wasn't in the fruit itself. It was in the disobedience and the lie.
God said, just don't eat from that tree. Maybe down the road, that might've changed. But Eve let her own ego get in the way of the request. Her arrogance was her downfall.
Isn't it great that none of us suffer from that? ;)
2007-09-09 13:51:53 · answer #6 · answered by mithril 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Eve had free will; she chose to eat the fruit. She could have chosen otherwise. Being omniscient doesn't mean that one knows the future; it means that one knows what is going on everywhere at all times.
2007-09-09 13:56:16 · answer #7 · answered by sundsqk321@sbcglobal.net 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
If you don't believe in 'biblegod" that is your business and not mine, but your non-belief makes your question irrelevant. You are just taking a poke at other people's beliefs, and that's not nice. I'm a Christian, but not a fundamentalist, by the way.
The temptation in the garden is a metaphor, as you well know. The fact is that if we all obeyed what religious people call the laws of God, or the Gods, or whatever, the world would be a better place.
I'm talking about kindness, generosity, humility, peacefulness. I'm a western person, living in Taiwan. If we all followed the Ten Commandments, or the Confucian Eight Virtues, or whatever else people of any faith tradition are directed to do, the world would be a better place.
Do not deny it, please.
2007-09-09 13:54:44 · answer #8 · answered by Pagan Dan 6 · 1⤊ 5⤋
Eve's disobedience opened the door for Satan to stake his claim to this world. We aren't being "punished" for Eve's sin, no one will be "punished" for your sins, and, yes, God did know Eve would be deceived. However, there was more at stake than Adam and Eve. There was a whole universe that had already watched Satan challenge God, telling him his way of doing things was unfair. Because God chose to create us with free choice, he had to give us the chance to choose. By the way, we still have that chance.....we all have a choice. Satan/evil or God. The big picture is way more than we will ever understand in our lifetime. All we can do is choose which kind of world we'd rather spend eternity in....Satan's with all the pain and suffering, evil and hatred we see in this world.....or God's world with no more crying, no more dying, no more pain or hunger or poverty or loneliness. It's a no-brainer, actually.
2007-09-09 13:54:40 · answer #9 · answered by transplanted_fireweed 5 · 0⤊ 3⤋
well if you dont believe in the bible or God then it doesnt make sense that you believe that humans have been punished because adam and eve ate the fruit. That aside, is punishment or discipline a bad thing? when a child is disciplined for doing something his or her parent tells them not to do is that meant for his demise or so that they learn a lesson?
2007-09-09 13:51:16 · answer #10 · answered by David C 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋