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If there were two Jews living around the time of Christ. Each of them followed the old testament law for their whole life and redeemed all of his sins through blood sacrifice as stipulated in the law of Moses. One of them died the day before the crucifixion of Christ and he went to Heaven. The other died the day after the crucifixion of Christ, and he went to Hell. Is this an accurate story according to Christian theology.

2007-09-09 11:59:57 · 19 answers · asked by unfit_commander 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

19 answers

no its not accurate ...

2007-09-09 12:03:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

No. One must hear the gospel of Christ and reject it to be automatically relegated to Hell. The Jew who died the day of the Crucifixion would be judged by the laws of Judaism. The same holds true today for those who have not heard the gospel.

The Jew who died the day before the Crucifixion was also not guaranteed a spot in Heaven. He died while under the laws of Judaism and would face Judgement under those laws. If he truly believed that God was sending a Messiah to save Israel from sin, then he would have waited in a place called "Abraham's bosom" until the Crucifixion was completed and then he could have gone to Heaven.

2007-09-09 19:06:58 · answer #2 · answered by ? 5 · 1 0

nope.
First of all, neither the Jews nor the early Christians believed in a place of knowledge such as hell. They all believed that once you died, your only hope of further consciousness lie in a Resurrection.
Also, if the person had died before Jesus execution, he could not have gone to heaven for two reasons:
1. The fact that Jesus had not been sacrificed yet precluded any
person being rewarded with life everlasting.
2. The destination for all who do receive everlasting life is two locations:
a. for the majority-earth
b. for the 144,000 ruling over the earth from heaven with Jesus.

In either case, had both men lived so as to be eligible* for resurrection, they would both have to wait for the fulfillment of all the prophecies, from Daniel to Revelation, until the God determined time for the resurrection has come.

2007-09-09 19:03:17 · answer #3 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 1 0

No.
The sacrifice of Jesus allows everyone access to heaven. By everyone I mean including the people that were told they were unworthy of God's love. Jesus' sacrifice nullified the need for the blood sacrifice of animals. It doesn't mean that Jews were wrong to be Jewish or worship as a Jew.

The only true antichrist is denying the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven. Whoever is guilty of that sin is eternally lost. Whoever denies knowing God is guilty of that sin whether you deny it yourself or another person. Whether it's consciously, or through sins against a person that would make that person distrust God.

Only through Christ are WE allowed to know Heaven. It doesn't mean that other people who know God, however they worship, are lost. God is true omnipresence, whatever you call your God or how you worship. It can never be a different God.

2007-09-09 19:39:10 · answer #4 · answered by wise1 5 · 0 0

Nope. The blood sacrifices simply covered sin, they did not bring redemption or forgiveness. Then how did someone before Christ's resurrection see paradise (which is where they went before Christ's work), by faith. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and others obtained eternal life, even though the mosaic law was yet to be established. God chose out those for salvation and gave them the gift of faith. Their faith was counted as righteousness.

Rom 4:9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness.
Rom 4:10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision:
Rom 4:11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while he was in uncircumcision; that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them;

2007-09-09 19:15:06 · answer #5 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 0

No, Absolutly not accurate. You are asking for the theology behind it, which is a little much to deal with on YA. Before Pentacost (Beginning of the church,and coming of the Holy Spirit) people were saved by their faith, after people were saved by grace through faith. In OT a person demonstrated their faith by keeping the law, and making sacrifices for thier sins. The sacrifices did not save them, their faith did. After pentacost people were saved by God's grace and the faith was given to them as a gift from God so their salvation was through faith according to Ephesians 2:8-9. It is much mor complicated than that, but on YA that is the best I can do.

Romans 3:30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.

2007-09-09 19:10:02 · answer #6 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 1 0

Hmmm. That's a really good question. I would think there isn't an easy answer here. Supposing that the second man openly denied the gospel then maybe. But, then, one may surmise that Jews who actually keep the LAW wouldn't go to Hell period. God doesn't lie or change His mind, He does however broaden His audience from time to time. This is too tough for me.

2007-09-09 19:07:05 · answer #7 · answered by Dennis W 4 · 0 0

No it isn't both would have went as they were living under the Old Covenant of the Law.
Jesus Christ DID not do away with the Law He simply fulfilled it.

2007-09-09 19:24:20 · answer #8 · answered by drg5609 6 · 0 0

No, absolutely not! Both were saved by the blood of Jesus. One died believing in the sacrifical lamb which pointed to Christ, the other died believing in the sacrificial lamb which was Christ.

2007-09-09 19:09:45 · answer #9 · answered by transplanted_fireweed 5 · 0 0

No, that's not an accurate story according to Christian theology. The Bible teaches that Jewish people were always saved by their faith and not by keeping the law because no one could keep the law perfectly except for Jesus.

If either of the two Jews in your example had faith in the promised Messiah then they would be saved. If they were like most of the Pharisees who only kept the external provisions of the law and were trusting in their own self righteousness then they would be condemned.

Here's how Jesus explained part of what I'm writing about.

Matthew 5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.' 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire.

Jesus said that it wasn't enough just to keep the external provisions of the law because God knows what is in a person's heart. That's why people had to be saved by faith in God and not faith in their own works.

Romans 4:1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness."

4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: 7 "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin."

2007-09-09 19:26:23 · answer #10 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0 0

It all depends on whether or not the one who died after the cricifixion knew who Christ was. If he did and he rejected Christ, then indeed he did go to hell.

2007-09-09 19:05:38 · answer #11 · answered by Devoted1 7 · 0 0

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