Why do people who are 'Messianic Jews' keep claiming they are Jewish?

Question

- when they quite clearly are not? No Jewish person believes that Jesus was the messiah.

If you believe that, then of course I respect your faith - but you are Christian, not Jewish.

The very term 'Messianic Jew' is a contradiction!

LUCID FREEDOM - we are NOT a 'race'. If we were, then non Jews couldn't convert and become Jews - which they can and do! Judaism is not a 'nationality' either - we are a religion.

BEN YESHUA - oh for goodness sake - Jesus didn't 'choose' Jews as the first disciples; Jesus remained a Jew and was merely trying to modify Judaism; of course the first disciples were Jewish - there was no such thing as Christianity until some time after Jesus died!

LUCID FREEDOM: Jews are from all ethnic backgrounds; in Israel for instance, you can find Jews from China, Japan, Australia, Morocco, Yemen, Ethiopia... and so on! Thanks for your edit, much appreciated.

Answer 1

You are correct- but "Messianic Judaism", "Jews for Jesus", "Completed Jedws", "Hebrew Christians" were created for one specific purpose, tricking Jews into converting to Christianity. That is the whole reason for their exoistence, to pretend they are something they are not tp trap the uneducated into converting to Christianity. Each movement has succesively adopted more of a Jewish front since they realised that the more genuinely Jewish they looked, the more succesful they would be- so the first of these movements, Jews for Jesus, has the fewest Jewish trappings, while Messianic Judaism adopts almost a perfect Jewish front, trying to dress and sound the part- making it exceptionally difficult for the uneducated to spot the fraud (if you don't know hebrew- the prayers are going to sound genuine. If you do know hebrew- their lack of authenticity and the inclusion of Christian phraseology, in hebrew, is obvious.)

Answer 2

Unfortunately, there are many Jews that do fall into the trap of thinking that these people are Jews. It's all an attempt at proselytizing and converting Jews, and- you said it clearly- most Jews will fall for anything except believing in Jesus. Calling themselves Jews for Jesus" or "Messianic Jews" makes them a little bit more credible to those few Jews that are VERY misguided.

Answer 3

You forgot to mention that the entire concept is a relatively recent invention, dating only back to the late 60s early 70s. Before then, there were no "Messianic synagogues" and Jews who adopted beliefs that Jesus was the messiah called themselves, well, Christians.

I should also note that the founder of the largest "Messianic Jewish" organization, Jews for Jesus, Moshe Rosen, was actually an ordained Baptist minister.

Answer 4

You are completely right!!!

I have found that Messianics choose to lie to people and say that Judaism is a race because they KNOW they can't be Jewish otherwise! They teach their children it is a race because they KNOW that their religion is rejected by the religion of Judaism; Messianicism is directly contrary to Judaism, but they don't want anyone finding out, so they spread their LIES.

Peace

To pretty much everyone above me except Mimi:
The only one who can define who is or isn't a Jew are Jews. Sorry guys.

Answer 5

According to Rabbi Lerner,
1) No Jew accepts Jesus as the Messiah. When someone makes that faith commitment, they become Christian. It is not possible for someone to be both Christian and Jewish.
2) Jews reject Jesus as the Messiah because he didn't fulfill Jewish expectations of the Messiah.
3) The Hebrew Bible (called the Old Testament by the non-Jewish world) is not proof for anything in the New Testament regarding a Messiah.

Jews don't believe that Jesus (PBUH) was their Messiah for the reasons explained in this link.:
http://www.angelfire.com/ri2/gideonbernstein/

Peace

Answer 6

Quite to the contrary. Messianic Jews are the true Jews, while those who call themselves Jews but who reject their messiah are not Jews but an heretic branch, a cult of Judaism.

Furthermore Jesus was Jewish - he was even acknowledged by the Roman government as being King of Jews. And likewise all his apostles were Jewish, even from the strictest sect of the Pharisees.

Answer 7

I respect you and your right to feel this way however you need to remember that you do not own Judaism . Those Jews who accept Yeshua as the Messiah are absolutely Jewish . I don't stop being an American just because I happen to believe this or that. A Jew who accepts Yeshua as Messiah is a completed Jew, not a Christian.

Answer 8

Jesus said in Matthew chapter 5, that he was NOT here to start a new religion; but to fix the Jewish one. And he only helped Jewish people in Israel, with a couple exception. And Peter was in charge of it. But other branches of it were created then. And are all gone now. The Catholic church was not created until 305/6 A.D.
I wish one of these "Messianic Jewish" churches were around here, so I could go to one.
Jesus also said for us not to forget the 306 commandments that God gave to Moses. Most Christians don't even know that there are 306 of them. Most claim only ten. And one religion believes they only have to obey two of them.

Answer 9

Hello, Tabatha:

The term Jew can mean ethnicity, as well as faith. But we note that Jesus said "Salvation is of the Jews."

He knew what He was talking about, and chose Jews as the first disciples. Contrary to what Rome might suggest, Acts 15 tells you Jerusalem was the first Christian headquarters with 100 % Jewish bishops. History shows it continued that way until the second-century Hadrian banned all Jews from Jerusalem. Then the aged Mark became the first non-Jewish "pope."

Tell me how that organization moved to Rome? It didn't! Rome is the... well, read for your self in the Bible code at http://abiblecode.tripod.com

Shalom, peace in Jesus, Ben Yeshua

Answer 10

Actually, many jews of the day believed Jesus was who he claimed to be. So, you're wrong. Those people didn't cease being jews. They were simply jews who believed in Jesus for who he claimed to be. True judaism IS messianic. Your messiah has come!