The Jews think that the Americans have done them a great favor by creating Israel; is it so?

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In fact they have done something worse than Hitler did, coz this is going to be a constant problem. Israel had not existed for centuries; it was a Mohammedan country, Palestine, surrounded by Mohammedan countries. Now just because you won the second world war and you happened to be in control of the land of Palestine, you forced the creation of a nation. It is arbitrary. The people are Mohammedans, it is their country. Israel may have been, thousands of years before, the country of the Jews. But for thousands of years it has been a country of the Mohammedans, and suddenly you simply change the map... and surrounded by the whole Mohammedan world. In the Middle East all the countries are Mohammedan.
This small country, Israel, is going to continuously suffer; and how long can America help it? And how long are American Jews going to pour their money into Israel? Sooner or later the truth of history will have to be accepted. towards Jews, they should have given them an Israel in America.

Israel had not existed for centuries; it was a Mohammedan country, Palestine, surrounded by Mohammedan countries. Now just because you won the second world war and you happened to be in control of the land of Palestine, you forced the creation of a nation. It is arbitrary. The people are Mohammedans, it is their country. Israel may have been, thousands of years before, the country of the Jews. But for thousands of years it has been a country of the Mohammedans, and suddenly you simply change the map... and surrounded by the whole Mohammedan world. In the Middle East all the countries are Mohammedan.
This small country, Israel, is going to continuously suffer; and how long can America help it? And how long are American Jews going to pour their money into Israel? Sooner or later the truth of history will have to be accepted. If America had been really compassionate towards Jews, they should have given them an Israel in America.

Answer 1

What you are coming out with is just half-baked knowledge.

Firstly, the Americans did not create Israel. Following is a brief history of the creation of Israel:

"Following World War II, the British announced their intention to withdraw from the British mandate of Palestine. The United Nations General Assembly proposed the partition of Palestine into two states, an Arab state and a Jewish state, with the city of Jerusalem to be under the direct administration of the United Nations. While most Jews in Palestine accepted the proposal, most of the Arabs in Palestine rejected it. Violence between Arab and Jewish communities erupted almost immediately. Toward the end of the British mandate, the Jews planned to declare a separate state, a development the Arabs were determined to prevent. On May 14, 1948, the last British forces withdrew from Palestine, and the Jews, led by David Ben-Gurion, declared the creation of the State of Israel, in accordance with the 1947 UN Partition Plan."

If you want to learn the true history of the Jews you need to read the Bible or read Josephus. In short, Jews were God's chosen people to take His message to all the world. They failed to do so and as a result they suffered. That does not mean that God left them. Their existence is the testimony to the truth of the Bible and they will be there, albeit suffering, and no one can wipe them out of existence unlike other ancient civilizations.

Answer 2

How ignorant of history you are! There has never existed a sovereign state called Palestine. In fact, many of the countries in the Middle East today that are largely Muslim owe their current configuration to Empires who decided what they should look like and where their borders were.

The reality is that before Israel, the land was a mandate of the British Empire. Before that, it was part of the Ottoman Empire. So, your talk about existing for centuries is just bunk.
Even after the creation of Israel, the West Bank was controled by a foreign country, Jordan.

It seems to me that the Arabs there do not have much of a problem being part of by a political entity that is not their own state but they do have a problem if it happens to be Jewish.

And for the record, the meme that "America created Israel" is false and a distortion of history. Although it is true that it was HELPFUL in the creation of the State of Israel, but to simply imply that Israel is an "American manufactured entity" is a distortion of what really happened. Then again, that would fit into your "ignorant about history" theme.

As to your slur that it is worse than Hitler... even if we accepted your false premises as true, how is that exactly? How is Israel's being worse than Hitler? Since you are ignorant about Israel's history, I would imagine you are also ignorant about Nazi Germany, so don't bother making the comparison.

Answer 3

Because Israeli forces do not target civilians, and Palestinian fighter groups do. The Palestinian civilian casualty rate is higher, yes, but that is partially due to Hamas's usage of human shields and the fact that more fighting is done within the Palestinian areas than the Israeli places. A problem a soldier told me about was that oftentimes, soldiers cannot tell who is a militant and who is a civilian due to the fact that the Palestinian factions are not uniformed. They do not have bases, they use houses and schools to fire their shots and missiles from. When the IDF attacks those hideouts, places around it are hit, resulting in more casualties. This is Hamas's issue due to the fact that they are the ones using civilian areas to operate out of. The Israel Defense Force has strict rules against hurting civilians, and those who break those rules are arrested or suspended. There was an instance during the Gaza war where Israel dropped leaflets into heavily populated civilian areas in order to warn of an impending attack. Hamas, however, targets civilians and population centers. They recently took the rap for aiming a missile at a school bus, killing a teenage boy. That is the difference. Those who target civilians are in the wrong. Israel is not free from blood on it's hands, but there is definitely a less significant amount than the Palestinian fighter factions have.

Answer 4

You can't blame America it was the U.N. that voted on the creation of Israel.
It was very unfair and I agree with you.
I think the best way would be to keep the religion out of politics. You have seen with the old Iraq and Afghanistan that religion and politics do not mix.
I'm pretty sure Mohammad and Jesus do not want us killing our brothers in the name of God.
I would like to see one nation of Palestine where Christians, Muslims and Jews get along in the peace God would want in the holy land.
Further I would push for Jerusalem to be an Independent district where no nation can claim to have Israel.
Jerusalem should just be land absent of politics and war where Jews, Christians and Muslims can hold hands and praise almighty God together. No wars, no weapons just open minds and open hearts to God.
This is what must happen before there will be peace.

Answer 5

England had control of Palestine, the Zionist from America went to Churchill and bargained for Palestine, they told Churchill that they could win the war with the Americans, the Zionist went to President Wilson and he agreed but something needs to happen to get the Americans in the war, Japan bombed Pearl harbor. So you need to understand the Zionist are behind the whole thing, they are also believed to be behind the Terror war to set the New World Order in motion,

Answer 6

You obviously slept through your World History classes (if you even took any). The British pushed the UN to create Israel, and there was no Palestinian State at the time. The Palestinians were a loose confederation of tribes who, when they weren't murdering each other, followed the rantings of the Mufti of Jerusalem and supported the Nazi's during WWII.

Answer 7

Don't go blaming the Americans for this, the British are the ones that gave Israel their independence and created the nation of Israel, not the American's, as you want to believe.

It is America that has armed Israel so they can defend themselves against their many Arab neighbors, by selling them weapon systems that were formerly used by the American Military but when these systems were upgraded to a better system, the old system was then sold to Israel.

It is also my opinion, that Israel also has the nuclear weapons in their arsenal, in the even they ever need them.

Answer 8

Let's say that, since Israel is the country of Israeli Jews for more then 50 years, it would be unfair to confiscate it. I mean, this logic certainly applies to Jews discovering Jewish property their ancestors had in Poland and elsewhere too: It is illegal-according to any norme or moral law I am aware of-to confiscate something from someone, only because it used to belong to the confiscators ancestors. The only change I long for in this regard is, that I wish Israel was (and I hope and pray it will be) truly independent-not dependent on the US. I mean, as long as it is dependent on the US, whenever it celebrates its Day of "Independence", it reminds me of children playing be imagining they are heads of state: "Let's pretend I am the Prime minister, you are the president and he is the finance minister, asking money from the president of the USA".

Answer 9

Try again pal, it was the Brits that helped to create Israel.

Answer 10

Go back to school and learn your history.