Is it advisable to treat women like crap to score more often?

Question

Why do so many women prefer men who treat them like crap? So many women line up for relationships with ******* which is bluntly obvious to them and everyone else but act so surprised when they end up being screwed.

I'm not thinking of starting to treat women crappy or anything. I'm in a happy serious relationship with a wonderful woman, but even she doesn't understand this. I was just curious about this phenomenon about women who are attracted to players, criminals and the like. Why is it like that?

It seems so stupid for me but some of these women I really respect and admire. Some say its the excitement, but its a no brainer considering the emotional and physical abuse. What's the deal?

Pardon the manner of the question, I just wanted to get it across clearly.

Answer 1

If someone has a good answer let me know. My wife has four sisters that keep getting married to nasty a $ $ H O L E S. Some abuse them physically and mentally, some just do one or the other, however they have all done it. One did a number on one kid and my two brothers and I went after him. We beg these women to call authorities but they won't. I have even started calling them p1, p2, p3 and p4. (punching bag 1-4)
I guess when a man has trouble proving his "manhood" in the bedroom he has to do it by abusing his wife and kids.

Answer 2

Treating women like crap is highly unlikely going to score you points except with SERIOUSLY disturbed and low self-esteem women. I also think that UNLESS you combine it with OTHER qualities such men posses such as POISE, CONFIDENCE and STREINGTH you just end up sounding like a pathetic bitter loser. You are still coming from the position of bitterness, hurt, inferiority and putting the woman on a pedestal, from which the "gentlemen" you mentioned are NOT (as you have noticed, there IS something to be learned from them)!

That said, the mandatory a**-kissing proscribeed by "traditional wisdom", i.e. that the only choice for a man is essentially one between a "jerk" and a "wimp" is so far off that it is scary. Modern feminism has had a pretty lousy role in this. First, while exposing the societal, physical, political and material advantages men have, it has COMPLETELY turned a blind eye to the incredible SOCIAL advantages that women has at their disposal to even up the score, naively expecting that the same emotional machinations and priviledges could and should remain in place even as the advantages men have are eradicated.

Next it has VILLIFIED positive masculine traits such as confidence, efficacy and streingth by equating masculinity with only the negative stuff, such as violence and rape, that can be perfectly well curbed without throwing the baby out of the bathwater and are in fact the hallmarks of the WEAKER male, NOT the stronger one! in fact, it has even made guys unsure about matters as trivial as sexual escalation and most guys nowadays just sit quietly and politely and wait for the woman to make any sort of move. Booooring!

Finally, it has further obscured and obfuscated the things a man must do to become more attractive to women. It has largely villified the persona of the "seducer" without realizing that in this day and age where the older restrictions on divorce do not apply EVERY man must learn to become a seducer, i.e. someone who can skillfully and systematically generate attraction and provide physical and emotional pleasure to the woman, to even hope to have a successful marriage and one in which both parties are happy! So yeah, anyway, if the SOCAIL PRESSURE of the society is to act like a spineless wimp, and only the evil guys flaunt this because only evil guys flaunt societal rules, then only evil guys will end up learning how to be attractive to women!

So yeah, the lesson from those "*******" is NEVER put a woman on a pedestal, not even after you had sex with her dozens of times (be prepared to leave at ANY point if your standards aren't met) and NEVER sacrifice your personal integrity for the sake of a woman. Both things make you as ugly to a woman as that homeless guy who tried to get change from her two weeks ago. But combine your poise with sweetness, genuine warmth and genuine love and you'll just have an atomic explosion of love happening in front of you.

Answer 3

Hey there!
I totally understand your question! It seems that way also to us females about guys! Usually, the good ones are taken ...and sadly by B$##%^^S!!!!!
But seriuously, I believe that most PEOPLE (in general) take so much crap becouse they are inmature, emotionally unstable, have a low self-esteem, or as in lots of previous generations....economicly dependant of the other person.....

It is important to keep in mind that abuse is a cycle passed on for generations. And yes, I used the word "abuse" becouse even if there is no physical evidence, there is always the emotional impact....At simple sight one would think it is an easy desicion. As simple as yes and no. The reality is that a person who abuses chooses well his victim. He strives on low self esteem....weekness! An begins his work there...slowly working himself (or herself) to physicly harm. Slowly creating aniilation from friends and family and then, dependancy to them.If any creep would act agressively at the first date instead of charming his victim...there would be less of this, but it is all a mind game. Everyone likes a bit of exitment but the proper kind of exitment is what people need to aknoledge!

Answer 4

If you want to score with women who have low self-esteeem, then, yes. Because it is low self -esteem that causes women to tolerate being treated like crap. Treating women badly would serve as a filter to help you easily find the ones who don't feel good about themselves and will do anything to gain your attention.

Sad, but true.

Answer 5

A person (be it man or woman) doesn't logically feel attraction. Attraction is a mechanism of mating. For centuries, men have been attracted to young, broad-hipped, narrow waisted females based on the drive to father offspring. They are not as attracted to women that don't seem healthy, young, fertile...Women are unconsciously attracted to the dominate alpha male who can and will stave off danger and will destroy anyone or anything that tries to hurt their young. Men like I just described are rough around the edges. They are confident; they are hunters; they become expert at their mission, be it stalk and kill food, or dominate any situation. Men like that trigger the desire in her that is required for her to willingly mate.

Now, in our society there are social rules that don't account for this. The idea that the nice guy should get the girl is a con...probably pushed by 1) parents that didn't want their young female taken far away from them by her new mate; 2) society because it was a method of controlling behavior; 3) the nice guys and girls who didn't meet the above criteria.

The nice guy who tries to be a girl's friend may get her eventually, but know that in reality, whether she ever admits it or does anything about it, she is most attracted to the other type of guy. If a man wants to be really successful with women, he should work to develop himself into a confident, powerful, manly man. If you really want to know more and just aren't whining, you should check out David DeAngelo's stuff. He understands this and teaches it.

That said, I don't advocate men abusing women or children. A real man, a manly confident man doesn't need to. His character and sense of fairness prevents him from striking either a woman or a child.

Answer 6

Hm... I haven't had a ton of experience with this phenomenon, but I've heard about it often enough. My guess is that they get arrogance and self-confidence mixed up.

There is something refreshing about being with a guy that doesn't care what others think of him, and that knows for sure who he is. That is not to say that guys with a low self-esteem have no chance of getting a date-- some are into that nurturing role.

Answer 7

There is a correct school of thought that states this as a (sometimes THE) way to get hot young women, but the outcomes are not happy ones.

Answer 8

Mature, self-respecting women lose their attraction to "bad boys" some time before the age of 30, or even earlier. Arrogant guys can be sexy, but if you're interested in something more than having sex with him, you will indeed regret it.

Answer 9

It's the attitude of self-confidence and that air of knowing what they are doing.
"Nice guys" always seem like they are about to get their feelings hurt or like one wrong word from the woman will break him---what woman wants a man she has to be as careful with as she does a child.?

Answer 10

I wouldn't advise anybody to generalise on how to treat such a wide variety of people. You could get a boot in the crutch.