How effective are intercessory prayers if the mediator or intercessor is dead?

Question

Even the dead can't praise God, how can we expect them to pray for us?

"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" -- Psalm 6:5 KJV

"The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence." -- Psalm 115:16-18 KJV

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Quella, anytime girrfriend. Got the blood on too? There is no power like the Name of Jesus!

ZAPP, the imagery was quite refreshing, like a tall glass of iced sweet peach tea! I needed that! LOL

If you have the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) please indicate it with your response. Thanks so much!

Answer 1

what one learns about the bible depends on the teacher of it.

what one learns from the bible, depends on the spirit that dwells in them or overshadows them.

I do believe that the nature of your question is really directed toward asking a departed on, saint, apostle, or other departed on to petition the Lord on their behalf.

Hebrews discuss' the sabbath days rest, and says make sure you do not lose out on entering into that rest. I believe the idea conveyed in this verse deals with those who have gone home to the LORD, they rest from their earthly service.
I am not dealing with service in heaven in this.

Given the nature of the mission of prayer being with the living, I see no profit in asking a departed one regardless how high society held them, to be of benefit for prayer,

I do however see this being regarded as witchcraft, and punishable by God. I know people do this all the time, but most of them do not have Jesus as their savior, they are depending on someone else to get them to Jesus to be saved.

So the effectiveness of prayer is zilch of a mediator or intercessor who is dead. That is why we have a living Savior to stand in the gap for us, who desire righteousness.

Answer 2

So if the dead can't praise God, and you're not an atheist, what do you think it is that they do?

Also, you're bible verses are meaningless without context. Although I can tell the first one doesn't support your theory even without it.

Okay I just looked up the second verse. You left out the next line where it says

"It is we who bless the Lord, now and forever."

So by forever does it mean, only the time we are on earth? Also, I just realized that we're talking about the old testament, and the old testament was written before Jesus came. The historical context of this verse then becomes one we would find much different from our own. The death the author is refering to is one in which the subject would go to the underworld, not heaven. I think there's a small difference.

Answer 3

I have taken a class on the Psalms and the number one thing you need to remember when reading that book is that the Jews of that time had no concept of a positive life after death. All souls went to Sheol which is an "underworld where insubstantial souls of dead human beings dwelt. It was similar to the Hades of Greek and Latin literature. In the second century B.C., biblical books begin to speak positively of life with God after death (Daniel 12:1-3; Wisdom 3)."

Remember, Christ is the one who opened the gates of Heaven upon His death.

Answer 4

properly, Catholics have confidence that the saints are in heaven and could hear our prayers. So with that concept, somebody does not could desire to be "alive" right here on earth to deliver alongside our prayer requests. Technically, you do not pray *to* the saints. You pray *with the aid of* them. it is variety of like asking a buddy to put in a reliable observe for you on a job you somewhat need to get. it is likewise comparable to asking your friends to desire for you. i don't take a stance on it one way or yet another. i replaced into raised Catholic, and that i'm purely telling you it is the way it works interior the Catholic custom. Catholics have confidence in putting a brilliant style of middlemen, no count if it is Mary and the saints in intercessory prayer, or clergymen interior the confessional.

Answer 5

Head explodes, grey matter drips down walls.


I don,t think they could, if they were dead.


http://www.allaboutprayer.org/intercessory-prayer.htm



New brain grows through thought evolution.


Would this be like Guardian Angel or Fairy God Mother?

Edit: Slurp, ahhh, tall glass of Peach and Grey Matter iced tea.

Answer 6

... um, i'm not quite understanding your question.............. as the Q itself doesnt bear any relavancy to the scriptures posted. You're taking these verses out of context.

These verses do not mean that the souls of the dead are not alive (as our souls are eternal) this just means that they have no influence over anything that goes on here on earth.
They have not another 'opportunity' to praise God as we do, as the are gone; And also, where it concerns us and them, there are no more chances to change your 'opinions' lets say, once you have passed. (the dead that are in heaven are very much praising God, as that is what heaven is).

Dead people cannot pray for us, cannot answer prayer, cannot help us find things, cannot guide us or give us direction, as they have not any influence or control over anything that happens to us. (Read the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man *Luke 16:19-3* for reference).
Also: You cannot pray for people that are dead. You cannot pray people INTO heaven, or OUT of hell once they are dead. As once a person steps into eternity, whatever choices they made on earth are now given them; there is no going back. Their own words on earth either acquit or condemn them. (Matthew 12:36-37)

Intercession is essentially prayers on behalf of another person; every prayer for someone is essentially a form of intercession, but the term "intercessory prayer" is more appropriately applied to prayers for someone (or something) in which the duration is an extensive period of time;
I pray for my family and friends (and et cetera) every night, but i don't always do intercessory prayer. There have been times when i have, but i don't do it every day.

Therefore, in answer to your question, Dead people can not be mediators and cannot intercede on our behalf. Therefore it is not only "ineffective" but comepletly impossible. Once they are dead, they are dead, and havent anything more to do with us, or we them; until we step into eternity. That's scriptural.

Answer 7

Once you're dead ..That's It, your fate Is sealed. To be absent from the body Is to be present with the Lord. When you die you go according to where ever you lived your life here on earth,Heaven Or Hell. Their are only 2 choices.

Answer 8

so why did Jesus, after his crucifixion and before his resurrection, preach to the dead?

"For Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the sake of the unrighteous, that he might lead you to God. Put to death in the flesh, he was brought to life in the spirit. In it he also went to preach to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient while God patiently waited in the days of Noah during the building of the ark."

Answer 9

Christ Jesus is alive. He incessantly intercedes for us at the Throne of Grace.

Answer 10

Since you can't pray for the dead, I guess it would be fruitless. But, if you pray for the living (people of the dead) your prays could be answered...