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If you read – it is mentioned in the Bible, in 2nd Samuel Chapter No 24, Verse No 9, that… ‘The people that were involved in the battlefield. It gives a list of these people, in 2nd Samuel, Chapter 24,
Verse No. 9, and it says that… ‘People that took part 800 thousand of the men of Israel,
took part - and 500 thousand of the men of Judah same.’ If you see other places, 1st
Chronicle, Chapter 21, Verse No. 5, it says that… ‘1 million - Hundred thousand people
took part in the battle field, from the men of Israel - and ten thousand four hundred and
sixty men took part of Judah.’ Was it 800 thousand people who took part from the men
of Israel, or was it 1 million - 100 thousand? Was it 5 lakh people of Judah that took
part or 10,460? A clear-cut contradiction.

2007-09-07 01:48:56 · 9 answers · asked by greenisbestcolor 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Also , it is mentioned in the Bible in
2nd Samuel, Chapter No. 6, Verse No 23, that… ‘Michael the daughter of Saul - she had
no sons’ - 2nd Samuel’, Chapter 21, Verse No. 8… ‘Michael the daughter of Saul had 5
sons.’ One place it says… ‘No children, no son, no daughter’ - Other place… ‘5 sons.’ -
Further more if you read, it is mentioned in Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 1, Verse No.
16 - it says about the genealogy of Jesus Christ peace be upon him - as well as Luke
Chapter No. 3, Verse No. 23, and it says that… Jesus’ father, that is Joseph - his father
was Jacob’ – Mathew, Chapter 1, Verse 16. And Luke, Chapter No 3, Verse No 23…
Jesus’ father… Joseph - his father was Hailey. Did Jesus’ father… Joseph, had two fathers
? What do you call a person who has got two fathers ? Or was it Hailey - or was it Jacob
? Clear-cut contradiction.

2007-09-07 01:49:49 · update #1

9 answers

I like the argument that the Bible is the literal, infallible word of God. But when something like this comes up, "it isn't important" or "the truth of Christ is clear". If the Bible is the literal, infallible word of God, there shouldn't be one single error in it. Every single one, thus, becomes important.

2007-09-07 01:59:12 · answer #1 · answered by The Doctor 7 · 1 3

My response is: you're right. The bible is laced with contradictions. Personally I was taught that at a very early age, and subsequent study of the bible has shown it's true. Only a mentally defective person or a person who has never read the bible will claim otherwise. But:

The bible is still God's truth. The bible was never meant to be a history book. And even if it contains bits and pieces of historical stuff, those people didn't look at the recording of history the way we do, a la Gibbons.

When they said 100 thousand, they presumed that anybody who read it would be intelligent enough to know that there was nobody there counting heads to make sure that the number they wrong down in Samuel was exact. 100,000, and a million were numerology symbols: they meant "a lot."

And if there was any historical truth there, that's it: there were "a lot."

So it almost seems like you're trying to bait the fundamentalists: I can tell ya, Green old boy: don't waste your energy. Truth and the facts never swayed any fundamentalist from hating exactly who Brother Billy-Joe at the church told them to hate, or shook their blind, unbelieving faith that there are no contraditions in holy scripture and it must be interpreted literally. Seriously. Save your energy for people who will hear you.

The only hopeful thing about fundamentalists is that since it is a rather infantile way of viewing faith -- childish, not childlike -- there is always hope they can mature and grow into an adult-like faith.

2007-09-07 01:59:27 · answer #2 · answered by Acorn 7 · 1 1

Bible difficulties, or apparent Bible contradictions, exist. The opponents of Christianity often use them in their attempts to discredit Christianity. Sometimes these attacks undermine the faith of Christians who either don't understand the issues or don't have the resources to deal with them.

Opponents of Christianity will cite what they consider a Bible contradiction or difficulty by comparing one verse to another (or more) that seems to disagree with the first. In doing this, several verses are often referenced as being contradictory or problematic. Therefore, to make this section of CARM easy to use, it is arranged by verse for easy lookup. Since many of the same "difficulties" deal with one verse in opposition to another or even several others, I have listed all the verses addressed in the same answer. This makes the initial list look larger than it really is. For example, how many animals did Noah bring into the ark? Genesis 6:19-20 says two while Gen. 7:2-3 mentions seven. Therefore, both verses are listed and both links point to the same answer.

http://carm.org/introduction-bible-difficulties-and-bible-contradictions

If we read the Bible at face value, without a preconceived bias for finding errors, we will find it to be a coherent, consistent, and relatively easy-to-understand book. Yes, there are difficult passages. Yes, there are verses that appear to contradict each other. We must remember that the Bible was written by approximately 40 different authors over a period of around 1500 years. Each writer wrote with a different style, from a different perspective, to a different audience, for a different purpose. We should expect some minor differences. However, a difference is not a contradiction. It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable way the verses or passages can be reconciled. Even if an answer is not available right now, that does not mean an answer does not exist. Many have found a supposed error in the Bible in relation to history or geography only to find out that the Bible is correct once further archaeological evidence is discovered.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-errors.html

The Big Book of Bible Difficulties: Clear and Concise Answers from Genesis to Revelation
By: Norman L. Geisler, Thomas Howe
http://www.christianbook.com/difficulties-clear-concise-answers-genesis-revelation/norman-geisler/9780801071584/pd/071584?event=AFF&p=1011693&

2014-10-21 07:38:55 · answer #3 · answered by The Lightning Strikes 7 · 1 0

Nope, this is not a contradiction. But before I explain, let's look at the relevent passages:

1) 500,000 men: (2 Samuel 24:9) - "And Joab gave the number of the registration of the people to the king; and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men who drew the sword, and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men."

2) 470,000 men: (1 Chronicles 21:5) - "And Joab gave the number of the census of all the people to David. And all Israel were 1,100,000 men who drew the sword; and Judah was 470,000 men who drew the sword."

So we can break it down like this:

2 Sam 24:9: Israel = 800,000 "valiant" men; Judah = 500,000 men

1 Chron. 21:5: Israel = 1,100,000 men; Judah = 470,000 men

With regard to Israel's number difference, the explanation for the difference in counts for seems to be found in the Hebrew word for "valiant," which is "chayil" found in 2 Samuel 24:9. It means, "men of valor, army, host, etc." It seems to mean that the men numbered in 2 Samuel 24:9 were those with BATTLE EXPERIENCE, where the men of 1 Chronicles 21:5 had NO battle experience. It was most probably true that there were an additional 300,000 men ready for battle who had not yet experienced it. Therefore, 2 Sam. 24:9 numbers only the experienced men, where 1 Chronicles 21:5 numbers all men of battle ready age.

With regard to Judah's number difference, the solution seems to be provided for us in verse 6 which says, "But he did not number Levi and Benjamin among them, for the king’s command was abhorrent to Joab," (NASB). Verse 6 states that the numbering process had not yet been completed since the tribes of Levi and Benjamin had not been numbered.

So there's absolutely NO CONTRADITION here. As for the rest of the alleged contradictions, these should be asked as separate questions. If and when you ask them, I will explain for you why you are incorrect.

2007-09-07 02:45:13 · answer #4 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 2 0

Word games, semantics, and attempts to confuse and distract.

Why not focus on the real issue: the covenant of the New Testament between God and man, and the salvation of the eternal soul thru His Son, Jesus?

2007-09-07 01:58:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

to the ignorant these are huge, I'm sure. If you do a little checking you'll find that you've drawn the wrong conclusions.

But go ahead, deny what the bible says about everything. You are right, it's nonsense. There is no hope, nor is there a God out there.

Just be sure you tell Him how smart you were about His scriptures when you see Him. I'm sure He'll be impressed with your painstaking attention to detail. Good luck!

2007-09-07 01:56:50 · answer #6 · answered by dagiffy 3 · 3 4

You just found these?

This is hardly news.

2007-09-07 01:57:02 · answer #7 · answered by fooles.troupe 7 · 0 1

All that typing for nothing......

Scripture is the truth and it does NOT contradict itself.

The message of the cross is crystal clear:
Salvation through Christ alone

2007-09-07 01:54:58 · answer #8 · answered by primoa1970 7 · 3 5

read Quran babe.

2007-09-07 02:09:58 · answer #9 · answered by mas2all 3 · 0 1

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