Who is going to fill the vacancies when illegals don't do their work?

Question

I know you don't want illegals working in USA, but what is your solution to get those jobs filled. No legal person want to work at the fields or wash dishes for the minimum wage, are you ready to fill their shoes or to pay $10 dollars for 1 lbs of tomato? If USA makes all those illegal legal, they will leave the fields and all those minimum paid jobs as soon as the next day….. And again we'll needs more illegals, and what you do then?

Anybody with a REAL answer?

Answer 1

We aren't a 3rd world nation. I'm willing to pay what it takes to provide Americans and LEGAL immigrants with a living wage for their jobs. I own an organic farm and I don't hire illegal aliens. We WOULD hire H-2A visa workers, but it's impossible to find any that will bother with the paperwork to make themselves legal. If I can afford to pay what the market demands, so can others. If I ever caught my manager hiring illegal help, he'd be out so fast his head would be spinning.

Answer 2

The answer is of course the Legal citizens will do those jobs. And the fact is that many of the jobs illegals do are jobs that used to pay better,it's not that Americans won't do the job,it's that they can't for the wages unless they want to live with 15 people in a 2 bedroom home just like the illegals.

12 million Illegals=12 million unemployed Americans

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Answer 3

No one will "do the work" because no one else is willing to work for next to nothing doing that kind of work. If employers had to pay a reasonable salary, they would have workers.

Example. Working out in the hot sun digging dirt, planting trees and mowing yards for minimum wage. Before we had illegals, high school boys would do that kind of work. Now they can not find jobs because so many of the jobs are taken by illegals.

Example. Fast food places now advertise for "bi-lingual" workers. That is just a code word for "illegal" workers. Just why does someone have to be bi-lingual to flip a burger or serve a soda?

Illegals are not taking jobs so much as keeping wages low.
Send them home and the jobs will see an increase in pay.

Answer 4

In some cases: no one.

There are jobs being done by illegals that, really, no one should be doing. Slave wages & inhuman working conditions, just so a dishonest employer can keep an economically non-viable business going while he eeks out some meager proffits. No one should mourn the 'loss' of such jobs.

Some jobs will be offshored. If you can't bring the foreigner to America to do the job cheaply, send the job to him.

Some will be replaced by automation. Capital investment can reduce the need for low-skill labor. Often, in doing so, you need a little more highly-skilled labor. Not a bad thing.

Some will be filled by legal workers, for fairer (though still low) pay, and with propper legal protections in place. That will cause the costs of some goods and services to rise, possibly setting off a round of inflation. But, it will also reduce unemployment and related undesireable social phenomona, like some sorts of crime.

Some will be filled by legal workers who don't /need/ even 'decent' pay. Those earning suplemental income, like young people who don't need to support thier family (or even themselves), but do want some money of 'thier own,' for instance.

The market has a way of clearing, in spite of sudden shifts in supply.

Answer 5

My real answer is as follows...

Believe it or not... non-violent prisoners are released on a furlow (but monitored) every single day. They work in fields & fight fires & even transport released prisoners to bus stations & airports (among other jobs). These prisoners actually fit a certain criteria to be allowed to do such jobs; for example (non-drug users, etc...). So don't say that these jobs can't be filled. It makes me sick when pro-illegals make all kinds of excuses to not punish illegal aliens (criminals) for breaking our immigration laws. Try to come with something else, because it isn't working.

Answer 6

It should do wonders for reducing unemployment (not that its a serious problem now) or for US Robotics:

California fruit growers are plowing cash into the development of a new kind of workforce. One that never gets tired, doesn't ask for raises, and doesn't need green cards. Andrew Phelps reports.

Immigration officials have lost the element of surprise in their latest offensive against illegal immigrants. Reports have been all over the media since late last week that the Department of Homeland Security is putting the finishing touches on a plan to force companies to fire workers who falsify their identity documents.

Farmers could be among the hardest hit, dependent as they are on immigrant labor. California fruit growers are plowing cash into the development of a new kind of workforce. One that never gets tired, doesn't ask for raises and doesn't need green cards. Just the occasional oil change.

From the Marketplace Innovations Desk, Andrew Phelps at KPBS in San Diego has the story.

Andrew Phelps: Before we get into the future of farming, here's a sense of what fruit growers deal with now.

Ted Batkin is a citrus farmer in Visalia, Calif.:

Ted Batkin: The biggest problem we have is that pickers have to go up a ladder into a tree that may be 16, 17 feet high. And they're carrying a picking bag that . . . we now have lowered the weight down to about 38 pounds.

That's dangerous, and really exhausting. Batkin says agriculture is losing workers to other sectors — like construction, where the labor is less challenging.

And the national immigration debate is threatening his labor pool. A new report from the nonprofit Public Policy Institute of California says 80 percent of the state's day laborers are undocumented workers — most of them from Mexico.

That's pushing Batkin to look at a cyber-solution.

Batkin: We've been looking at robotics for 30 years, and it's only been in the last two or three years that the technology has been sufficient to make it effective. We have faster computers, we have a better understanding of hydraulics and mechanics.

Batkin's also president of California's Citrus Research Board, which has invested a half-million dollars into the technology. The Washington state apple industry has invested more than a quarter million.

Derek Morikowa is the man making "agrobots" a reality. He's a robot designer in San Diego and CEO of Vision Robotics. He says robots working in teams will soon be able to "map out" an entire orchard.

Derek Morikowa: We scan the trees with our robotic vision. We locate the position of each piece of fruit in three dimensions very, very accurately, to within a centimeter or a few centimeters.

Morikawa says robotic vision can even figure out if the fruit is ripe enough for picking. That's the job of the robotic "Scout." The Scout then talks to the "Harvester," a big machine that looks like an octopus. Its mechanical arms pluck the fruit delicately enough to avoid bruising it.

Phelps: So how far are we from robots that take over the world?

Morikawa: Hahaha . . .

Sure, he sounds diabolical. But Morikowa says he's really not. He says he doesn't want to take away human jobs. He says he won't even take on a project unless he can do it for half the cost of fielding a manual labor team.

Jack King: Well, it seems a little space-ageish to have machines in orchards, but you know, I think we'll get used to that.

That's Jack King. He represents California's Farm Bureau Federation in Washington. King says California tomato farmers were struggling 25 years ago, so they turned to technology.

King: At that point, the University of California developed both a machine and a new variety of tomatoes that would lend themselves to machine harvest. As a result of that, we saved an industry. We're now major world producers for processed tomatoes.

King says he wants more funding for robot research. But immigration reform still tops the Farm Bureau's agenda.

Farmer Ted Batkin in Visalia says robots will never replace people on his farm.

Batkin: We don't anticipate building a machine that's better than they are. There is nothing that is as efficient as a human picker.

Batkin says it'll be at least four more years and $5 million of research before these robots are working side-by-side with humans.

Answer 7

When the government got off their collective backsides, they raided the Swift meat packing plants in several states, thus creating over a thousand vacancies.

Several days later the plants reopened with thousands of Americans lined up outside for applications!!!
This is your answer, Americans WILL do the jobs if the pay is up to snuff! The open boarders policy is beneficial only to those greedy corperations that want low cost slaves.
Did you ever hear of Upton Sinclair? (The Jungle,1906)
Read his book on the Chicago meat industry and how they put down the workers that wanted regular pay and less that 18 hour days. They brought up cheap labor to replace them and lowered wages.
'Nuff said.

Answer 8

I think the jobs will get done when the wages raise back up to what they were in 1980 in todays real wage numbers.

But you know what? I think the ruination of our schools, closing of our hospitals and draining of services we have paid into for our own people's use is a much more serious problem than who is going to man the McDonalds window.

Answer 9

Shut up you illegal alien supporter!!!

After the illegal aliens are deported.
1.) pay US citizen more to do the work.
2.) legal Immigrants, i am sure millions of people around the would love for a chance to work in USA...

Answer 10

Seriously, if we got paid decent wages then there would be no problem..If there were no illegals then employers would be forced to pay higher wages. Problem solved. That being said, americans would make more money thus being able to afford $10dollar tomatoes. Oh wait dont forget about the money we save in healthcare and welfare, foodstamps etc that is now being used for illegals. common sense.