2007-09-06 08:31:01 · 35 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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I KNOW WHAT IT IS , I AM AN ATHEIST HONEY!
2007-09-06 08:36:33 · update #1
AND I KNOW THAT CHRISTIANS USE IT, BUT WHEN THEY USE IT YOU ANSWER TO THEM ,THAT IS PASCAL WAGER, I ONLY WANTED FOR YOU TO GET MORE CREATIVE TO EXPLAIN WHY HELL IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH A LOVING GOD , GOT IT?
2007-09-06 08:38:57 · update #2
It's a method to keep bad children in line that I prefer not to choose.
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2007-09-06 08:44:26 · answer #1 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Many people have already said things I agree with.
- Pascal's Wager is not an Atheist's argument.
- We tend to support our beliefs using concepts like Occam's Razor. Which is more reasonable, "an invisible man in the sky"? Or, "natural laws that are observable"?
However, there is more to it than that. We can historically trace the development of concepts like heaven and hell. For example, the works of Joseph Campbell show how older religions were folded into Christianity to make it more palatable to converts. I don't have to disprove Hell, we can see it develop as a concept for socio-political reasons by the church. If there were a 'universal truth' to the idea, then the idea would have been there from the very beginning.
2007-09-06 09:00:55 · answer #2 · answered by Wundt 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Assuming God, the ´creator´, exists and he is so loving he would have no need for a ´hell´. The basic concept of hell is a large torture chamber where people are kept forever. Now, basing on the human definition of love (this is valid since,´the word of God´was written for humans), putting people in a torture chamber forever wouldn´t exactly fit. Oh and about pascal´s wgaer, it´s idiotic. When it was discovered the world was round, people must have thought along the same lines as Pascal´s wager. If everyone stuck with that mentality, we would still believe it to be flat. Finally some advice for religious people. The concept of God isn´t so bad. The trouble is that when you belive it, things start to get exlpained as God´s will and you believe God´s will is absolute. This has caused more wars, torture and countless other nasty things than any other idea to date. You don´t need a God to blame or to exlpain things!
2007-09-06 08:56:01 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hell in the New Testament
Gospels frequently portray images destruction and torment in hell. Sometimes this destruction is referred to as annihilation or punishment when God's Kingdom gets established on earth (Matthew 3:10-12, Matthew 25:41-46, Luke 3:9, John 5:28-29). Other times it is said to be the fate of the individual sinner (Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29-30, Luke 12:5, John 6:66). While flames and destruction are the most common depictions, darkness or exclusion are also referred to, (Matthew 6:66, Matthew 22:13, Matthew 25:30, Luke 13:22-28, Luke 16:19-28). and Jesus describes a place of "weeping and gnashing of teeth"; this quotation appears six times in Matthew and once in Luke.
A vivd account of hell is found in Luke 16:19-28 (Lazarus and Dives). In this account, it is said that nobody can pass from the bosom of Abraham to hell or vice versa. Fire and thirst are again described, and it is stated that the souls that are in Hell can see those that are in Heaven and vice versa. Many view this story as a parable, and as such, believe its meaning may not literally define the existence in the afterlife, but instead serve as a metaphor or illustration.
2007-09-06 08:43:49 · answer #4 · answered by DrMichael 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Supposition 1: God created us.
Supposition 2: God planned an eternal afterlife for everybody
From 1, we know that our flaws (our ability to do evil) are a results of God's shortcomings. He did not have to create us with that ability, he could have given us a different kind of free will (the choice of being able to fly or to live underwater, the choice between having fun and doing something meaningful, Cheese OR dessert, what have you).
If 2. is true he cannot logically punish us for his own shortcomings.
Moreover, he cannot punish us eternally for errors committed during a mere lifetime. It is exactly the same as creating something for the sole purpose of torturing it. Why create it in the first place?
The logical conclusion inferred from 1. and 2. is that Hell does not exist.
2007-09-06 08:50:00 · answer #5 · answered by stym 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Here's my argument against hell: it is just a story people tell each other. No one has seen it, no one has any evidence it exists. Some other stories that people tell each other are bogeymen, unicorns, minotaurs, leprechauns, etc. You don't believe those exist, and for good reason. Hell belongs in that list.
That argument has nothing to do with Pascal's wager, which is a weak argument for irrational belief in a god.
2007-09-06 08:38:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Huh?
Pascal's wager is an argument for believing in god. (It's NOT an argument that god exists, only that it's safer to believe in one, ... just in case. How peopleare expected to believe the utterly absurd is left unadressed, as is the absurdity of the notion that there's a god.)
Atheists don't use it.
The argument against hell is simply that it's absurd, and there's no reason to believe in it, or evidence that it exists.
2007-09-06 13:05:06 · answer #7 · answered by tehabwa 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
WTF are you talking about??
as stated above me..... pascal's wager is what the christians use.
Pascals wager is basically this:
If i'm right and god is real you will go to hell, but if you're right and god is not real I will not have lost anything so there is no risk for me to believe in a god.
It's got nothing for or against hell. It's the christians @ss backwards approach at trying to sucker in people who are just dumb enough to buy into it. That's why they call it the buybull!
2007-09-06 08:35:50 · answer #8 · answered by DaveFrehley 3 · 5⤊ 1⤋
The plus component to pascals wager is this: As a Christian, i will freely admit that i need to be incorrect. there is not any God. i might nicely be open minded adequate to definitely evaluate that each little thing I lived for replaced into purely a hoax. interior the top, if that's authentic, no vast deal. yet, i replaced into waiting to stay my existence as a very "loose fact seeker", because of the fact i will open my suggestions huge adequate to contemplate the atheist or others could be precise and that i replaced into incorrect, yet i decide for to persist with Jesus Christ because of the fact I do have confidence he's actual and truly my Lord. as quickly as all of us flatly states, "there is not any God," has closed his suggestions to the prospect there's a God. they have locked themselves right into a field, thrown away the substantial and could stay caught and stagnant till they call out to God to loose them from their self made cells. they can't open their minds, to new innovations, they can't supply themselves permission to be incorrect. In a manner, they're interior the commencing up levels of eternity in hell as they stay of their frail and mortal bodies.
2016-10-10 02:00:49 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What the Hell is Hell? There is no proof that Hell exist except in the mind of a few Christians.
2007-09-06 08:37:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hell DOES exist...
I've been there...
It's located in TEXAS!
(Tell this Pascal to stay outta My "home" city of Vegas; he wouldn't enjoy it, what with that "no-risk" attitude! And it's not "PASCAL", anyway, it's PAVLOV!!! The "Conditioned Response" of the Christians makes them salivate whenever the subjugation or fantasy "bell" is rung!!!)
2007-09-06 08:42:38 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋