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Question

john 14:28 reads--
" .......BECAUSE THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I AM"

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mark 13:32


Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
John 8:54


And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17

1st commandment: you shall not take other gods before Me! (God)

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
John 7:16

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4

"my God! my God! why haven forsaken me!"

John 20:17 (New American Standard Bible)
17) Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God."

Luke 22:42 (New American Standard Bible)
42) saying, "Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done."

If Jesus was God he would have no need to pray this, because he would already know God's will.

Answer 1

Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. Being human He experienced everything we did -- including the dispair that would cause Him to quote the psalm, "My God! My God!"

He may have known God's will, but that doesn't mean it was easy for Him.

Answer 2

In all those scriptures you just quoted Jesus is calling himself the son of Man. Jesus was all man and all God. You are confusing where Jesus was at the times you are quoting him. Jesus is the Father in the flesh, Read the Gospel of John, also in John he talks about the great I AM, Jesus call himself the great I AM, because he was from the begining. If you have some ??? send me an email, I will be glad to try and explain the Trinity to you, FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT. It is hard to understand, One good example is John chapter 15, the first couple of verses where you have the Gardener, the Vine and the Branches. That is another picture of the Trinity. Good luck in your studies, if I can help drop me an email....May God Bless YOU!!

Answer 3

The Trinity are separate individuals, God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Ghost, yet they are still one. For example think of all the stars in the sky, they all look the same with the naked eye but each star is a planet with it's own individual physical properties and "make-up."
Verses of Scripture explicitly stating the Father's Deity:

“Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.” (John 6:27)


“And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:11)


“Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.” (I Peter 1:2)


These verses are only a few in the New Testament that refer to the Person of God the Father. Many times, the generic term “God” or “Lord” is used. Specifically, God “the Father” is a term used to denote the specific Person of the Father. This reveals that the Father is a distinct Person. He is not the Son, nor is He the Spirit, yet they three are one (I John 5:7). His title alone tells of His Deity.



Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21)


“My Father which is in heaven” is distinct from the Son, Who is the Door into heaven itself (John 10:9). The only Way to the Father is through the Son (John 14:6). However, Jesus says not everyone that says “Lord” will enter heaven unless they do the will of the Father. What is the will of the Father? People must enter into heaven His way. Hebrews 10:9-10 says that God's will was that through Jesus' death we may be sanctified. II Peter 3:9 says that God's will is that all should come to repentance. Therefore, the will of the Father is that people will come to Him through Jesus Christ alone. It is amazing how, as distinct Persons, both the Father and the Son are needed for salvation, yet ultimately He is one God. One cannot have the Son without the Father or vice versa (I John 2:23; 5:12,20; II John 1:9).

Answer 4

To the texts that you have mentioned, two more may be added:

"For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22).

"I and [my] Father are one." (John 10:30).

Looking at all the verses it is clear:
1. That what we refer to God is not one person but more than one person - at least Father and Son.
2. At times Father appears to be greater, other times Son appears to be greater or equal.

The fact is both (with the Holy Spirit three) are co-equal, co-eternal but in His human form Jesus had limited Himself and He was having a tough time convincing people that indeed He was God in human form. That is why His question - "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God". In other words, 'unless you accept me as God there is no point in calling me good since only God is good'.

Answer 5

WHAT?

Why do you people have to make a simple thing so friggin complicated. I am NOT a follower of organized religion, though I do have beleifs that come from MANY faiths (primarily christianity and its opponent...paganism. And yes, I KNOW what I beleive in)

My take on Jesus is simple....ever hear of the golden rule? That is what Jesus would have wanted. PEOPLE made God/Jesus out to be this thing to be feared because PEOPLE are ignorant. Why does God have to have a human persona? You don't meet him/her/it/them/whatever until you pass on anyway!!! Jesus on the other hand was an actual human whose main premise was peace, tolerance and kindness....something many Christians seem to have forgotten about.

I think Jesus would be disgusted with us if he were here today.

Answer 6

“I AM” the L-RD your G-d. (then it continues to say) you shall have no other gods before Me.” Who is the ‘me’ which is spoken of here? The L-RD G-d called I AM or YHWH or Elohim – but remember that in the original Hebrew, name is the character of an individual. So, we have here G-d’s name (character) being YHWH or He exists and Elohim or one of power and authority. Back in Genesis we learn that Elohim is also a plural name or character (thus we have Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – the Tri-Unity of YHWH or G-d).

So, here are all His characters and their duties:

As the Father, His character is a devoted but disciplinary Father -- He is Creator / Judge of all

As the Son, His character is the sacrificial Lamb - the saving grace needed for forgiveness of our sins

As the Holy Spirit, His character is much like a transmitter for communication between the Father and Son to / from us, also called prayer - the breath of life to all who believe.

Look back at verse 11 Jesus clearly says “I am in the Father and the Father is in Me.” Verse 25 “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

John 10:29-30 “My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."

In His human state, G-d allowed Himself to suppress His divine nature. Read what else that chapter says in verse 5 through 32. Oh, how easy it is to focus on only certain passages and disregard the rest.

John 14:6 “Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me.”

Answer 7

I think that Jesus would have to be 100% human for his sacrifice to mean anything. If what he did was not possible, why would he have told his followers to do it (Go ye, and sin no more.)? How can the example be the goal if it's not reproduceable?

I think Jesus was very much in tune with his god, but no more or less human than any of us.

Answer 8

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Answer 9

"Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me."
John 7:16

If you have not indeed read the whole new testament, which you may have, because of all of these verses, you should pay more attention to the entirety of the verse.

"My doctrine is not mine, but his THAT SENT ME".
Now some say Jesus was a prophet, and 'That sent me' could mean sent him to tell the word of God, but if you believe Jesus was the Messiah, you know that ' That sent me' means sent to the world. From heaven.

Jesus was as perfect as perfect can be. He was pure, never sinned, as you probably already know. Now even though Jesus was perfect, he was still a human.

Answer 10

Please see:

Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross" (Phil 2:6-8).

And get a life. Proof-texting out of the context of the whole makes assumptions that are not wise.

Get the whole picture, Scripture, Tradition and Holy Reason

Answer 11

To understand Jesus as God on earth praying to His Father who was God in heaven, we need to realize that the eternal Father and the eternal Son had an eternal relationship before Jesus took upon Himself humanity. Please read John 5:19-27, particularly 5:23 where Jesus teaches that the Father sent the Son (also read John 15:10). Jesus did not become the Son of God when He was born in Bethlehem many years ago. He has always been the Son of God from eternity past, still is, and always will be.

Isaiah 9:6 tells us that the Son was given and the child was born. Jesus was always a part of the Tri-unity relationship along with the Holy Spirit. The Tri-unity always existed, the Father God, the Son God, and the Spirit God. Not three Gods, but one God existing as three persons. Jesus taught that He and His Father were one (John 10:30). Jesus meant that He and His Father, and of course the Holy Spirit, were of the same substance, the same essence, God or deity. Three co-equal persons existing as God. These three had and continue to have an eternal relationship.

What happened when Jesus, the eternal Son of God, took upon Himself sinless humanity, is that He also took on the form of a servant, giving up His heavenly glory (cf. Philippians 2:5-11). As the God-man, He had to learn obedience (Hebrews 5:8) to His Father as He was tempted by Satan, accused falsely by men, rejected by His people, and eventually crucified. His praying to His heavenly Father was to ask for power (John 11:41-42) and wisdom (Mark 1:35; 6:46). His praying showed His dependence upon His Father in His humanity to carry out His Father's plan of redemption (note Christ's high priestly prayer in John 17) and then to ultimately submit to His Father's will in the Garden to go to the cross to pay the penalty for our breaking God's law, which is death (Matthew 26:31-46). Of course, He rose from the grave bodily, winning for us forgiveness and eternal life right now when we accept Him as personal Savior.

There is no problem with the Son as God praying or talking to the Father as God. As mentioned, they had an eternal relationship before Christ took upon Himself humanity. In His humanity, this relationship is depicted in the Gospels so we can see how the Son of God in His humanity carried out His Father's will so redemption could be won for all (John 6:38). Christ’s continual submission to His heavenly Father was empowered and kept focused through His prayer life. Christ’s example of prayer is left for us to follow.

Jesus Christ was no less God on earth when praying to God His Father in Heaven. He was depicting how even in sinless humanity it is necessary to have a vital prayer life to do His Father’s will. Jesus' praying to the Father was a demonstration of His relationship, within the Trinity, with the Father and an example for us that we must rely on God, through prayer, for the strength and wisdom we need. Since Christ, as the God-man, needed to have a vibrant prayer life, so should the follower of Christ today!