I'll just put it this way:
Assuming Adam and Eve were given Free Will.... it was a fair throw-up whether they were going to obey or disobey god at any given moment.
The crazy thing is.... they were obeying him from the moment he made it clear that they weren't to eat the fruit RIGHT up to the point where the fruit GOT eaten.... and then for just an instance or so they weren't obeying him any more.
They did a pretty good job doing as they were told, but assuming they had free will and were immortal.... it was INEVITABLE that they would eventually eat the fruit...
God must have known that....
He knows everything, right?
The only conclusion is that he wanted them to eat it.... to disobey him.... so he could kick them out of Eden.
Only two conclusions I can think of here:
#1. God was an unforgiving, uncaring, evil bastard.
#2. God wanted them to learn of the world, live without him... and eventually forget about him..... making Athiests his "chosen children". =P
2007-09-06 04:45:54 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Steve :~ Ever heard of a fundie? Many christians take the bible all too literally.
2007-09-06 04:58:01 · update #1
Wondering and Geezus :~ You're evading the question.... so why even bother answering? You're wasting my time and yours. Answer the damned question already.
2007-09-06 04:58:43 · update #2
Ms Lady :~ And I suppose you believe in eternity? .... Trust me here, for I am rational and you are not: If you had a line of crack in front of you FOREVER... you would snort it eventually.
2007-09-06 04:59:34 · update #3
Ok, it's the tree of knowledge OF GOOD AND EVIL. Not of knowledge. Knowledge is not a bad thing, and no Christian in their right mind will tell you that. When you try to learn everything, it becomes a problem. Humans are fallible, finite beings. We weren't created to know everything.
2007-09-06 04:52:48 · answer #1 · answered by wondering4365 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
the outlet chapters of the Bible let us know what got here approximately while Adam and Eve committed the 1st sin - yet they do no longer let us know precisely why God allowed it to take place. We must be careful, as a result, to no longer blame God for something it is finally previous our be attentive to-how. on the comparable time, the Bible does let us know 2 necessary truths approximately Adam and Eve's sin. First, it tells us that they have got been thoroughly loose to love God - or to reject Him. In different words, they weren't robots! God's warning replaced into clean: "you should no longer consume from the tree of the certainty of stable and evil, for once you consume of it you will truly die" (Genesis 2:17). yet what if that they have been robots - it is, what in the event that they did no longer have any will of their very own, and all they might do replaced into love God? Then their "love" for God does no longer have been love in any respect - because of the fact love constantly includes a call or a determination on our area. God took a large possibility in coming up them with a loose will - yet purely then ought to their love for Him be actual. the different fact the Bible tells us, besides the fact that, is that on a similar time as sin's effects have been large - God's love is even better. The data is that He despatched His purely Son into the international so shall we've our sins forgiven. have you ever became to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness and new existence you pick for?
2016-10-10 01:44:12 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Just because God knew what was going to happen doesn't mean he wanted them to eat the fruit. God views our concept of time as a picture, not as a sequence of events. I would say they disobeyed God when they decided they could eat the fruit, not when they actually ate it. I think the fruit itself gets too much coverage when examining this. The real sin is in thinking you can eat the fruit, or can handle eating the fruit and continue eating the fruit from the tree of life. You must choose one.
The knowledge mentioned is the knowledge of good and evil, not historical or scientific knowledge. God originally wanted to shield us from knowing about evil and danger. He wanted to protect us from pain and suffering. We choose to know them.
Adam and Eve are sort of a summary for man's relationship with God through history. God wants you to be in paradise...God acknowledges there are things that will keep you there, and things that won't...man desires paradise, but takes it for granted...man disobeys God...God is bothered by this...
Thats my really simple version...subject to more scholarly review...
As far as eating the fruit being inevitable...I don't know...it would appear that it is, but man was a little different before the fall, so I don't really know. Did man's sinful nature exist before the fall? Or is it a result? Good question...
2007-09-06 05:19:58 · answer #3 · answered by chavito 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The story contradicts itself. Genesis states that man and woman were created together, then in the next breath said God created Adam, then made him fall asleep, took his rib and made Eve.
This shows the Bible to lack credibility right off the bat. Instead of killing all those trees to print Bibles on, conserve them and let's use the existing bibles as toilet paper. Nothing feels as cleansing as a nice wiping with 1st Samuel. Don't use Exodus. Takes place in Egypt for the most part... too sandy.. may irritate.
QED
2007-09-06 05:24:11 · answer #4 · answered by coralsnayk 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sorry Charlie. Of course He wanted them to have knowledge. Everything points to it. However, He dispenses it at the proper time. He never gives us more than we can handle at once. Why doesn't a teenager know as much as they think they do??? They can only handle just so much.
At the proper time, God would have told them to eat that fruit as well as the tree of life. The reason for the one restriction was for them to know who had a right to rule them. There was no need for a big list of rules, one was sufficient.
2007-09-06 05:10:03 · answer #5 · answered by grnlow 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1st point :
cuz the human should see the 2 ways the good one and the bad one and should be able to choose what he wants, Adam and Eve were put on a straight way hasn't any difficulties and we cant say that was obeying we cant judge their act without they put in a test like the test of the tree .
2nd point :
i want from u to imagine that if god got u after ur born and put u in the hell and he just said i knew that u would disobeying me if i put u in the earth and my knowledge is enough to put u in the hell what would ur raction be .
3rd point :
i want to add one more line to ur conclusions i see that God wanted to show them how his forgiveness that he forgive them on their disobeying and told them that the paradise was created for them and he will get back to it after they pass the earths test.
thats it
2007-09-07 02:52:40 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
He put the Tree there in order to test Adam and Eve's loyalty, for only in free will can loyalty and true love be experienced. Any other method would have hade our love/obedience for Him forced or coerced. Had they left the Tree alone, we'd all still be livning naked and immortal in a Utopian existence with UNCONDITIONAL love in our hearts for the One who made it possible! The same premise is available to us if we make it to Heaven!
2007-09-06 07:03:55 · answer #7 · answered by bigvol662004 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Adam and Eve weren't "tested" by God. They arrived on Earth almost 38,000 years ago with a specific mission and very specific proscriptions attached to that mission. The "sin" of Eve was a violation of one of the more serious proscriptions. Eve's so-called sin was merely a well-intentioned error of judgment, totally forgivable but it would cost her access to the Tree of Life and she would eventually experience mortal death. Adam couldn't bear the thought of a near-eternity on Earth without her, so he freely and deliberately shared in Eve's misstep so he could share her fate.
For more on this fascinating story and this amazing couple, I highly recommend the book Adam and Eve - A Tragic Love Story. In spite of its title, this is a serious and scholarly work and I think you'd enjoy it. Good luck to you!
http://www.amazon.com/Adam-Eve-Tragic-Love-Story/dp/0741432722/ref=sr_1_2/105-0328501-1611661?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189335923&sr=1-2
2007-09-09 01:47:48 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I will show you not two conclusions,.... but i will give youTWO TRUTHS.
Tree of Life is Christ......Do you want to be grafted into this tree or the one below.?
Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil is satan,...Data with out use of wisdom becomes knowledge,...is this easy enough for you friend! Be good now ya hear .............. Peace
2007-09-06 04:59:39 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
just because crack is right in front of me doesn't mean I'm supposed to snort it.
it's was their choice to disobey God. don't blame God for the sins of man. blame man. why cant man ever take responsibility for their own actions? stop looking for a cop-out and realize that people have the choice to do what is right and what is wrong. if they would have listened to God...none of us would be in the situation we are in now.
#1 God is forgiving, caring and a merciful God
#2 God wanted us to live in the world but not be of this world. God is always there. it is man who goes astray from God. not the other way around.
God chooses us all...it is up to us if we want to chose Him or not.
yes! i do believe in eternity. trust me....crack is wack..LOL, i would never snort something that was not good for me. crack has been around for years now. i still haven't done it. don't need to do it. God put plenty of options in front of Adam and Eve...they chose the one He told them to stay away from. just because you might snort crack doesn't mean I'm gonna do it. God would give me plenty of options and i wouldn't mess it up for myself. i am very rational and i have common sense.
2007-09-06 04:56:14 · answer #10 · answered by Ms. Lady 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋