atheists, please give me some arguments supporting atheism?

Question

i lean towards the christian point of view in terms of morality, such as:
loving one another, not commiting adultery, honoring you parents, not to envy other people's stuff,

surely atheists can accept these beliefs too. I just wanted to know some scientific evidence that supports atheism.


I posted previous questions, but all i got were sarcastic, crap comments, please save the sarcasm and hating for elsewhere.

if you're not going to post an argument, please dont waste space and dont post at all. thanks

thanks guys, alot of answers stated pretty much the same, wanted to thank you all. please thumbs up the best to help me choose thanks

thanks guys, alot of answers stated pretty much the same, wanted to thank you all. please thumbs up the best to help me choose thanks

Answer 1

First, I would like to point out that the burden of proof lies with the one making a fantastic claim, in this case the one claiming the existence of a god, and it is not the atheist's task to present arguments.

However, you requested an argument. This is a logical argument revolving around the problem of evil. It takes these four premises, concepts that most theists accept:

1) God is omniscient.
2) God is omnipotent.
3) God is omnibenelovent (by this I mean all-good).
4) Evil exists.

From these four premises, it follows logically that:

1) God knows that evil exists because He is omniscient.
2) God wants to eliminate evil because He is omnibenelovent.
3) God can eliminate evil because He is omnipotent.
4) Evil still exists; therefore, God does not exist.

That is a logical proof, though perhaps not a perfect one, that attempts to prove that God does not exist.

Also, I should point out that your examples of morality are not mutually exclusive with atheism. I accept all of those principles that you listed, the only difference being mine come from a different source: human empathy, compassion, and common sense, and not from the arbitrary word of God. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god, nothing more and nothing less.

Please note, this was not written with an intention to offend. I hope you found this informative and useful.

Answer 2

As an atheist I don't define myself by my disbelief in yours or any other god, rather, by embracing the wealth of knowledge, persepctive and understanding that is offered in the mainstream scientific principles, descriptions and understandings of the natural world, which speak nothing for or against any religion..

This naturalistic perspective is far more informative, holistic, resepctful of nature, humbling and enlightening than any religious belief that might deny or dishonestly attempt to discredit it.

Clearly and evidently, no religion, particularly christianity, has any monopoly on morals, and the morals of many fundie christians or creationists are more than questionable..

Mainstream science is globally uniform, without borders, does not judge, does not discriminate, is not bigoted, has no hidden or political agendas, and offers a common understanding for ALL people.
The same cannot be said for religion, particularly christianity..

The mainstream sciences describe why it's not good to inbreed, harm children, perpetrait spousal abuse, or foster community discontent or violence, and describes sound reasons to respect the environmet, the family unit, and to raise happy, healthy, well adjusted and informed offspring.. The biological benefits and scientific reasons for these are clear, unambigious and compelling.

So clearly religion, particularly christianity, is clearly in no way a requirement or necessary to live a moraly sound, healthy, well informed and peacful existance, and there is plenty of evidence the opposite is too often true..

That's just the way it is..

Peace..

Answer 3

Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. The reason most atheists lack belief is because of the utter lack of evidence that a god exists.

The degree of belief is in line with the amount of evidence.

As for your morals - morality is subjective.

My personal morality involves loving humanity in a general sort of way, yes - but it does not involve sacrificing my well being for selfish and destructive people.

My morality involves maintaining trust in my relationships and keeping my word... but it does not say that it's wrong to have sex outside of marriage so long as all the people involved either emotionally or physically are ok with it.

My morality does not involve "honoring your parents" simply because they are your parents. Child molesting fathers and abusive mothers do not deserve to be "honored".

And envy? Feelings, emotions, thoughts - none of these are "wrong". Letting your feelings consume you is not wise, and acting on your feelings can be wrong... but really... what do you think would happen to our economy if people stopped wanting to get things that other people have? There's nothing wrong with me wanting a shirt like my friend has so long as I go out and get my own shirt with my own money, rather than taking hers away from her.

Edit - Yousedummy - You're right! A miracle! Or maybe we've just answered these q's enough that we can anticipate them now :p

Answer 4

i do mostly agree with the "christian" view of morality (i use quotes because i don't think that christians have any special claim to morality).

the way i see it, there is no positive scientific evidence that supports a belief in gods. there are surely many things unknown (less every year, but it seems like there's still plenty to occupy scientists for a few centuries yet), and perhaps god is hiding in there somewhere, but i tend not to take the idea very seriously. that's all there is to it - i don't think that atheism must include a rigorous disproof of the existence of god, it just comes down to this: is there enough evidence to take the idea seriously.

Johnny L said:
"science doesn't tell us WHY anything is the way it is, just that it is that way."

how does invoking the existence of a 'higher power' answer this sort of question? is the whim of an unknown entity a satisfactory explanation to you?

Answer 5

Lad, an atheist simply believes that gods do not exist. I know of no 'scientific evidence' for either that view of gods or the existence of those gods. For Christians, Islamics, etc., it is a matter of faith. Atheists approach it all as individuals, which is to say, our unbelief tends to be personal rather than everyone marching in lock-step like Christian and Islamic fundamentalists.

Answer 6

There really isn't room for detail here, but in brief - there is no evidence for the existence of a God (or any supernatural being) independent of unsupported and unverifiable claims by humans. Admittedly this approach doesn't *prove* there isn't a God, but it doesn't *prove* that there aren't leprechauns either; still, I'm not basing my plans on either one if they don't bother to show up.

Note that most elements of 'Christian' morality can be justified and supported by ethical reasoning - in fact this is a firmer support than, 'my preacher says this old book says some invisible man in the sky said so.'

Answer 7

Evolution

What is an argument supporting Christianity - what proof is there that the bible is real?

Atheism requires one to think for themselves, take ownership of their beliefs and not just resort to "but because I am Christian I believe this" or "Thats not allowed because of God" etc - Christianity promotes prejudice and discrimination - look no further than the issue of gay marriage, not everyone that gets married is religious so if its a religious entity than should atheists not be allowed to get married?

Answer 8

This is all the evidence you need if you choose not to listen to scientific evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions

We know that only one religion can be correct, if not any of them. Only one can teach the teachings of a higher power. Which is correct if all of them have arguments for being right and cannot be proven incorrect? it seems to me like some one is making things up.

Answer 9

firstly, regrading the morality you say in the question don't belong to christianity.
I have see those things in other religion teachings.

even those who are not belong to any religion do have this set of beliefs.

understand how the world work, that atheist usually call it the reality. you are be sure that the world don't work what the bible tell us. the evidences given by the sicentists have proved what reality is.

Answer 10

Dude their are thousands of websites that will help you understand the way the atheist views the world. Notice I didn't say change the way you think, but they will help you learn. I would start with Wikipedia and go from there.