Abortion question...?

Question

I want to know your opinion on what I'm asking an not abortion in general.

The other day someone said when abortions were illegal 100 women died a year in the US and that's why they're pro-choice.(I dunno WHERE they got that number, but I'm using it)

According to http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html 3,700 abortions happen in the US everyday...

What is worse...the 100 dead a year or the 3,700 dead a day?

Well I told you someone said it as a pro-choice thing...I dunno where they got that info...

But I would still say 3,701 a year is BETTER than 3,700 a day.

I'm sorry...WHERE in the question did I mention religion? So I guess it's worse to be an ignorant fool who just hates religious people...awwwww.

Kelly, I would tell them not to do it because there are other options...

Answer 1

the 100 dead! I was once anti-abortion, not for religious reasons, but for the fact that I thought that, if you put yourself in the position where you could get pregnant, then you should take the responsibility of going to term. This changed when someone I know fell pregnant, after taking all the appropriate precautions. This person was quite large and did not, at first, realise that she was pregnant. One the facts came to light this person was devastated, she was on the path to a good education and had the opportunities to go far in her chosen occupational field. This person, of whom is not a member of my family, asked my advice on the subject. Seeing this girl, who could not have for seen her predicament, in such torture I agreed with her parents and said that if she wanted an abortion she should take that path. This girl has gone through university and is now doing well and rising through the ranks at her place of business.

abortion should be a hoice for any women, whether they were caught out , like my friend, or whether they made a late choice, the cells growing inside them at this early stage can not be classed as life or Human life at least. The question you have asked is from a religious point of view, where every egg has a soul, and that is the big question isn't it; does the egg have a soul? well the answeris no!!!! so aslong as the abortion is done during the appropriate time, then there is no debate. you are also a man, and as men we can not imagine what these ladies go through, thus we should stay the hell out of the debate!!!!

Answer 2

I doubt that 100 number is accurate. It's probably a lot higher. The reality is that nobody knows how many women died getting illegal abortions because, well, THEY WERE ILLEGAL. Nobody kept statistics on the women who died in some back hall of a tenament, or paying some quack $200 to abort her baby.

As for which is worse, let's assume your 100 is correct for the moment, since that's how you phrased the question.
It's a sheer matter of numbers. 3700 dead is worse than 100. I do not buy into the nonsense that somehow aborted babies don't count as much as "sentient beings." We can now save babies who are only 25 weeks old. I do not pretend to know at what magic point that "clump of cells" becomes a human being. But further, I do not want to make that moral decision because I have no right to. Who among you wants to be the one to decide when life is life? Do you really know? Of course not. The arbitrary cut-offs we use to allow abortion, say, after 12 weeks, but not after 24, are just that --- arbitrary. We don't know. We make ourselves feel better.

Let's just accept the fact that abortions are murder, and sometimes murder is necessary. Hard to live with, ain't it? But it's the truth. Abortion should be legal, and it IS murder. Neither side of this debate ever wants to put those two phrases together, but that's the truth.

Answer 3

It's sad that women can legally kill their babies. I just love how pro-choice women describe baby as "a mass of cells" only when it's an annoyance and they want to get rid of it. But if that same woman wants to have a baby and she gets pregnant, does she go around saying, "I'm pregnant with a mass of cells!"??

Lorreign v.2, re. your arguments, why do women have to have abortions just because they weren't smart enough to use condoms, diaphram, the pill, having her tubes tied, or (perish the thought) try abstinence? Why should the baby be sacrificed for the mother's (and father's) carelessness? What about adoption? Those women whom you claim "we are condemning to illegal abortions and ultimately death from infections" all had a choice in their actions that led to this pregnancy and a responsibility to that baby they helped create. No one is forcing them to get an abortion. In fact they shouldn't be doing it. That's why it was illegal. With all the other options available, there is no moral or ethical justification for unnecessary abortions.

In your scenario of a mother's life in danger, I don't know anyone pro-life who would say the mother shouldn't have an abortion. That's the exception because it's pointless to let the mother die to save the baby.

Even the Bible says choose life! Pro-choice is always easy when you're not the one on the deadly end of the choice.

Answer 4

Well, I think that if abortion would be made legal a lot fewer women would die from doing it. I am pro-choice all the way, but I wouldn't have an abortion my self.....unless possibly it was from a rape that I got pregnant. IF that statistic is correct, the 100 women dying (in my opinion) is far worse than the amount of abortions done. But, like I said, if they would legallize it and regulate it properly, I think the death rate would be greatly decreased.

Answer 5

Those statistics quoted to you would based on the number of deaths reported as being abortion-related. Since abortion was illegal, what doctor, midwife or back-alley butcher would report a death as being caused by his own hand?

Since death from complications of a botched abortion is not generally immediate, such deaths would have more likely been described as internal hemorrhage, heart failure or septicemia from some unknown cause.

Abortions have been performed since the time women realized where babies came from. Although it's not a sensible method of birth control, we'll never really know the full extent of lives saved by its legalization.

Answer 6

well, no one was really taking statistics on it when it was illegal cause you weren't supposed to know about them. So I'd say it's safe to say that your number of 100 is fairly inaccurate.

Women are going to have abortions regardless if it's legal or not. Would you prefer them to go in back alleys with folding tables, rusty knives, and wire hangers instead of the abortion pill today that IS safe?

think of this scenario. Your wife is pregnant and you love her very much. But something has happened where either she will die, or the baby will die. Which one do you choose, the decision is in your hands.

Those women that you want to condemn to illegal abortions and ultimately death from infections and shoddy surgery is already someone's daughter, someone's sister, someone's neice, possibly someone's wife or girlfriend. You'd rather the fetus and the mother BOTH die just because you have this soapbox rant for what YOU think is wrong and right?

not to mention that your 3,700 number is not something that is living that can die, like a grown woman. At this stage, it is POTENTIAL human life, it is not human life yet until it is born. It does not have ANY rights until it takes a breath outside the body.

Answer 7

Life begins with conception. The heart starts beating at 4 weeks. Obviously those who say it's just cells are stupid idiots because those cells are going to become a human baby. When you abort a fetus you just took the life away that was going to be born.

Answer 8

you are playing with words to get the answer you want.

you must adequately define "person" here and that is the heart of the abortion debate.

"when is/should a fetus considered to be a person that is alive?"

Also I would check your source because of course an anti-abortion website is going to exxagerate the figures, just like I'm sure a pro-choice website is going to have some focus on other figures (like the deaths when it was illegal).

I'm not telling you what side of the debate I'm on, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your question and argument so you can at least go back and intelligently debate your friend better.

Answer 9

That's sad
What's more sad is a few lines down
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
I can not chose for someone other than myself, but hopefully I can save one or two unwanted babies (i just have to convince my hubby, and the adoption agency that it's a good idea)

**as for 'just being a clump of cells' what do you think we all are? A clump of cells that were given a chance to grow and be born. I'm thankful that my mom didn't abort me, I have 2 brothers or sisters that weren't so lucky...

Answer 10

That depends on where your definition of life begins. Some don't see a fetus as alive therefore your arguement of "live" is null to them.
I don't like abortion, but it's the law. Therefor it's to be respected until otherwise changed or not.