If the Big Bang and Evolution Can Co-Exist, Why Can't God?

Question

We all know that our universe is so expansive that we haven't even scratched the surface of what has yet to be discovered.

For lack of a better word, my "beef" with atheists is that despite knowing that there's simply a lot that we don't know, how are they so quick to discount the existence of God?

Lee Strobel wrote a book called The Case for Christ that if you're willing, I hope you'll at least pick up and glance at.

A lot of the questions and answers I've seen in this section are dealt with in that book as well.

So if we're so hungry to learn more about our universe, if you can take a few hours and focus that energy on learning more about why so many millions of intelligent people believe in God, won't you at least be doing yourself a favor? By doing so, you can either be more sure of your own beliefs, or at least open your mind to the possibility that God exists.

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to indulge me and my questions and given a response.

Answer 1

It's not that they can't, it's just that there's no evidence to do so. We don't fully understand the Universe, so it's hard to tell where a God would have been necessary. With every new advancement in discovery we have to move God farther back in the chain of events, and until we fully realize where we are by analyzing the data we do have, we really can't start speculating about things without evidence.

Answer 2

I have been saying this for the longest time. Recently, however, I have really been questioning evolution. The only part of evolution that makes sense to me is natural selection. This is exactly what happens during spermatogenesis and oogenesis. Selecting for genes from the gene pool. I have issues with molecular evolution (such as a new gene evolving or a new allele or even alleles in general). My other issue with evolution is due to man originating from a lower species.

I do think that evolution, the big bang, and God can all co-exist. Look at it this way. God created the universe and all life on earth. How did he create it? As a Christian the only theory I know of is the big bang. In Genesis, on day 1 there was light. However, the sun was not made until day 4. This light could have came from the big bang or God Himself. I reason it could be from the big bang because explosions do generate light, and an explosion which created the universe would have created a lot of light. I don't believe that this created life, however. I think God created life and life has evolved over time in the manner I previously mentioned (natural selection).

I recently purchased a book called Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search For Finding Common Ground Between God And Evolution. I have yet to read it, but the title speaks for itself as to what it is about.

I too read The Case For Christ. It was an excellent book. The main reason why I bought it is because Lee Strobel is a former atheist. I wanted to see God from his perspective because of his former beliefs.

Answer 3

because of the fact the vast Bang concept freely admits that there is not any thank you to comprehend what got here approximately earlier than the Planck time with out a miles better framework for the guidelines of physics than the only we at the instant have, technically the two innovations are actually not incompatible. i won't manage to join the thought that Adam and Eve is in basic terms a metaphor for the vast Bang. you're maximum suitable that evolution and version are the comparable element, all evolution says is that organisms exchange over the years. With the invention of DNA we've the mechanism via which those alterations ensue. everyone with adequate information approximately genetics to discover CSI a attainable drama and not technology fiction has to nicely known the molecular info in help of evolution. in case you prefer to declare that God is the driving stress in the back of the universe and evolution, yet makes use of organic approaches for his very own ends, superb. yet to disclaim the scientific info in prefer of a faith- based view is ignorant at ultimate.

Answer 4

They could exist with a god. But not with the biblical god.

If you accept that God is not as described in the bible, then the bible is inaccurate. If it is inaccurate why should I believe any of it?

Your 'possibly compatible' would also apply to a version of Zeus, or Odin or Osiris, or the pixies that now live at the bottom of my garden (allegedly)

Old books become credible when the events recounted are verified by other sources. Independent authors, archaeological evidence etc. For the key religious message of the bible this is totally missing. In fact is appears to be missing for some of the non-religious 'facts', it is becoming increasingly apparent that Bethlehem and Nazareth were not significant settlements in the 1st century.

As for "The case for Christ", it is only valid if you want it to be.

http://www.bidstrup.com/apologetics.htm

It does not stand up to scrutiny.

Answer 5

First, I would like to thank you for not saying this is a proof that God exists.

As an Atheist, I do not deny the possibility of a higher power, I will argue why there may not be one but at the same time you are correct, there is no way of knowing. I do think there are a multitude of gods that are believed to have existed, or believed to exist now that we can use common sense along with knowledge to eliminate from being real.. As far as I think, there will never be absolute proof to completely show that any one god in our history is false but as I said common sense along with knowledge of how things work will give us a fair idea.

We as humans like to attribute a purpose in everything, such as if I were to shut my finger in the door I would probably instinctively feel anger towards the door. This is the same attribute that I feel contributes towards people believing in a higher power, it is the manner in which our minds work. We could also take an example of how we project ourselves and our thoughts into everything, we name everything, we associate everything in a matter that becomes "personal" to us. We find cats cute, we make images in the clouds, etc. There are a variety of other factors involved but this is just a brief example and I do not have the time to put forth in extensive research to make a case at this time.

We then need to also ask ourselves.why would the universe require something that thinks in a manner similar to ourselves, ultimately we are survival machines. Our entire purpose is to survive, why would there be a higher power that reasons similar to ours when it would not need to worry about survival.. Such an entity would not be in the least bit human like, it would not require emotions, it would not require the same thought processes we have, etc.. Every God I have researched thus far has been made to fit the model of human beings.. It seems we just like to project ourselves into something we do not understand.

Until there is proof that exists that a God exists, I just think it to be very unlikely.

Answer 6

Here is your co-existance-
God created the world and the universe by bringing all matter together and creating such intense energy that they exploded outward into the forms He desired. Thus He creasted the Heavens and the Earth where their once was nothing.
You must understand that the Bible was originally written by men with no scientific knowledge who attempted to explain the world they lived in. The original word from the Greek Bible that the Engklish versions translate as day means a period of time. 24 hours is a period of time, but so is a millenium. It is quite possible that the seven days are not seven 24 hour periods, but rather larger gaps where the species created had time to reproduce, interbreed, and adapt to their enviornment before the creation of humans. When God wantedto create the first humans- Adam and Eve- He began with the most advanced living creature (our pre-human ancestors) and twisted evolution into a creature made in His image. This is why we have such intellegence, compassion, curiousity, developement, etc. higher than any other species. This is also why we have not continued to evolve. God has created his perfect people, and He will not change them anymore.

There you have it- Big Bang, evolution, and God- co-existing. And you said that it wasn't possible...

Answer 7

I wouldn't say that an atheist discounts the possible existence of God. They just state that at the present moment, given the evidence available to them, they do not believe God exists.


Edit: To clarify, I just mean that generally speaking an atheist would not deny the fact that a God existed IF there was scientific evidence of it. So what I mean is, an atheist is not necessarily discounting the possibility of scientific evidence being found in the future that proves a God exists. They just don't believe in God based on what we know about our world and universe right now.

Answer 8

The existence of gods are discounted, because they are obviously man made concepts. Even more, we actually know the history of how god concepts evolved from ancient astronomy used to predict the seasons for agriculture and animal migrations.

Is it rational to give serious consideration to Santa in the first place? What if you knew how the myth formed. Wouldn't it be lunacy to still give credence to Santa?

Is it possible that some kind of intelligent being created the known universe? Sure. Is it rational to make such a claim? No.

Answer 9

There was a time in history when no atheist had seen any evidence that coffee existed. And yet the Native Americans had it and were using it.

The problem with waiting for "proof" is that you might get the "proof" too late...then what? Too bad, so sad.

God is under no obligation to make a provision for anyone. But He did. Some shall spit upon that provision and hiss bile at God. But the end outcome is a matter of your own choice. Accept the only provision, or don't accept it.

But what if all that is just a made up story? Well. What if.

I know who I follow.

Answer 10

Stroebel is an idiot; anyone can poke holes in his arguments with a straw. It is perfectly possible for some sort of god to exist, notwithstanding the big bang (now established science) and evolution (now a proven fact) -- but it is perfectly useless to believe in such a thing, as it can be shown that no such belief can have any consequences in the real world: it can predict nothing.