Why have some people got such a problem with others wanting to breed their dogs?

Question

I dont see what is so wrong!!!
Im not talking about these back street breeders who do it for financial gain, im talking about genuine people who want to see the best brought out in their breed
I know that when my ***** is old enough and providing she is healthy with no defects i would def consider breeding her!
I just can understand why some people are so rude to others about this subject.

sorry CAN't not can!!! lol

JR
I said consider because I have an 8 week old pup who has no experience showing or racing!
So i think consider is a good choice of words! Its not set in stone is it!

WOW
so many people jumping to conclusions as usual!!!
My ***** is not pregnant NOR am i planning of breeding her yet
Shes 8 weeks old for god sake!!!
And to those of you who funily enough assume i know nothing about my dog........
so far from the truth is almost laughable!!!!
some of you should be ashamed of yourself!!!
I spent more than a year researching my chosen breed before i decided to take the plunge and chose a fantastic breeder!!!
I know all about the genetics testing and YES it will be done regardless!!

ulcrm

You have just proved my point!
Plain ignorant, rude and very offensive springs to mind when reading your response.
you know nothing about me or my girl she is NO mutt
How dare you
you are the exact person I was describing when i posted this question about people being rude to others

get'em gang
I suggest you crawl back under the rock you came from
And stay there
Your an awful excuse for a human being
Your are just vile

Seth T
Try reading the question
at no point did I ask if anyone knew of a stud available!

Answer 1

What are you doing to better the breed?

You say "consider" that is not a good breeder. A good breeder already knows what they have and are not going to "consider" wether to breed or not.

Please spay you are the "back street" breeder that is why we have a problem with it. Bring more crap dogs to die in shelters into the world.

Answer 2

There is nothing wrong with breeding dogs if:
you know what you are doing or have a knowledgeable mentor,
you are breeding to improve the breed,
you are not doing it in the expectation of making money
you have sufficient knowledge to be able to evaluate the dogs in question,
you know the pedigrees of the dogs, and know that not only the parents but the grand parents & great grandparents were good examples of the breed
you are aware of all the health problems in your breed & have ALL the relevent checks done (not just a once over by your local vets)
you are prepared to travel the length of the country to use the very best dog for your b1tch
you have the time, money and space to look after Mum & pups,
you are prepared to take back the puppies at any stage in their lives
you have the space & resources to hang on to maybe half a dozen puppies until they are 6 months old because you can't find the right homes for them.
You have had at least 5 yrears immersed in your breed - going to shows/trials/club events, read everything there is on the breed, spoken to breeders who know the breed inside out & feel confident that you can say exactly why one dog is a better example than another.
How many people can fulfil those requirements? Can You?
If someone has to ask questions about breeding on a forum like this, they do not have sufficient knowledge to embark on breeding.
The reason people seem to be against breeding is that they see the end results in the animal sanctuaries, in heartbreak caused by the death or illness of a puppy they bought unsuspectingly from a thoughtless breeder, in the dreadful temperament of puppies who should never have been bred & the poor husbrandry of dogs in the hands of those who can't afford or don't know how to treat dogs.

Answer 3

I think you'll find it's because far too many people come on here saying they want to breed their pet bitches, usually when they are already in season, asking when is the right time!!!! Just for starters. I have absolutely no problem with anybody wanting to get into dog breeding, with the big proviso that they must be doing it for the 'right reasons'. And that's not for MONEY and neither is it 'because they want their kids to see the miracle of birth', or because they want something exactly like Flossy'!! If somebody has enough interest, in a specific breed usually, and having bought their first dog, usually only a pet, realised it's only a pet, and gone out and bought a top quality animal, started showing, joined a Breed Club, etc.etc. and then decides they'd like to expand their hobby into perhaps starting a bloodline, fine. By all means I'd encourage all of that. Otherwise for the average pet owner, breeding simply isn't necessary. In fact it only floods the market with more pet-quality puppies, at best. And there's a whole lot more to it than just having a 'healthy b itch with no defects'. There's never any reason for anybody, on here, to be 'rude' however.

Answer 4

The problem you are up against is the thing that is repeated several times in the above answers - too many dogs with too few caring owners. Dog and cat home s bursting at the seams etc. etc. By all means you should be free to breed from your dog once she is old enough, but will you be able to guarantee the puppies will go to good homes? I have never been interested in breeding because I know I would be so worried when it came to parting with those little innocent bundles of fur.

Answer 5

I'm all for you breeding your dog if you just consider the following things before you do.


Eye tests,hip tests & blood tests are costly,so is a stud fee. Then you have to be sure that your dog is a good specimen of its breed.If all this is what you are prepared to do then let me add the final heart breaking bit to make you think twice.Sometimes things don't run that smoothly & your dog could die if you don't do your research on labour & after care.Puppies die during the birth or in the the first few days from also not doing your research.I wouldn't want to risk my precious dogs life to breed with her. With all this said & you still want puppies then go ahead but always offer to have the puppies back at any stage in their lives if it doesn't work out. This is what a responsible dog breeder should do. Believe me they do come back & with lots of behaviour problems that you will then have to live with.

Is it worth it?

Answer 6

Breeding should only be done if a dog is proven in the conformation ring and/or proven it can do the job it was initially bred to do.

People think, my dog has papers, so I can breed it. People think, my dog has it health checked, so I can breed it. Problem with this is that who is judging their dog, with an unbiased opinion, to ensure they are breeding a structurally sound dog that actually meets the breed standard? Only an experienced breeder can properly judge this, not their vet, not their friends. Someone with experience.

Too many people on here just think they can and they shouldn't. The right way to do it is to persue education about your breed of choice thru a mentor... this can take several years of learning, going to dog shows and events, before a person is really even close to knowing what to look for. Few will ever learn it in a year or two.

So people here, those that do come across rude sometimes, know that most of the people asking about breeding here don't have a mentor and probably have no clue if their dog really is of breeding quality, which means they really have no business breeding in the first place.

Added: The problem I see here, from reading a previous question you asked, is that your breeder doesn't appear to "have the time" to help you in your ideas on breeding. I find it hard to believe that a "reputable" breeder, who is indeed conformation showing their dogs, would sell a breeding potential puppy to someone with no experience in the ring and give them full breeding rights. Breeders who are reputable don't just send off show potential puppies without having some kind of hand in it. Either it's a co-ownership, or at the very least, they mentor the owner down the right paths. The reputable breeder cares about their lines and the reputation of their name and they would want to protect that by assisting and mentoring at the very least. They would have a hand in picking a mate for the dog to be bred if the owner is not experienced enuf to make the proper choice on thier own (and 1 year of researching a breed doesn't make you an expert, sorry). If a breeder truly does not have the time, then show potentials go to experienced homes and everyone else, without experience, gets pet quality on spay/neuter contracts.

If your breeder sold you "breeding potential" and has no further interest in assisting you, I would seek out others who will and can give you unbiased opinions as to what paths you might take to persue this, should you choose to do so.

Sorry, but I question "a great breeder who shows" that will sell a pup to breed, without having some kind of hand in it. Makes me question how "reputable" a breeder like that actually is in the first place.

Answer 7

Okay- I got my dog from the pound- he was lucky- they have to euthanize dogs because the just don't have the space/money/staff to keep them all.

I truly believe that the only people who should breed are show or performance breeders who are breeding to get a specimen for themselves and will sell off the pet-quality littermates.

These breeders are trying to make the best dog possible and are trying to prove (through show or performance- by which I mean herding dogs, hunting dogs etc) that their dog/bloodlines are the best and deserve to be continued.

'providing she is healthy with no defects'- do you plan on having her tested for these defects or just 'if I don't see it, it's not there'. All of the genetic testing and certification neccessary is expensive. Has she shown she meets breed standards or won competitions showing how good she is at her 'purpose' if she is a working breed? Or do you just 'think she's pretty'?

I don't want to be rude- but when people come on here looking for stud dogs, or asking about the female's heat cycle, or how to make dogs 'lock' - then I think they've haven't done their research. If you are a member of a breed club because you show/perform with your dogs- you'll have no problem finding a stud. If you have a breeding mentor who believes you should breed and knows what they are doing then you'll have no need to ask such elementary questions on here.

People breed because they love their dogs and think they are perfect- but our opinions are biases- that's why their are unbaised people (show judges, other breeders) who can judge for us and TELL us if they are worth breeding.

I have a little muttley- I think he's perfect and I think everyone would love to have a dog like him. He's beautiful, loyal, caring, fun- but he is neutered- I figure there are already lots of great dogs like him at the shelter where I found him.

Answer 8

It's because when you do breed her you will join the ranks of the back-street breeder who do it for financial gain.

That is, unless you have done the following - and then some:

1. Researched the breed thoroughly for confirmation, temperament etc. and determined whether your dog can actually contribute to the betterment of the breed as a whole.
2. Acquired the Champion status for your dog's breed through conformation trials (shows).
3. Researched appropriate mates for your dog - and are willing to pay the appropriate stud fees.
4. Drawn up the necessary legal documents including but not limited to: sales/purchase contracts, health guarantees for the puppies, return policies, etc. etc. etc.
5. Provide the appropriate prenatal, birth and well-puppy vet care.
6. Interview prospective buyers carefully.

If you think that it would be "fun and profitable" to have a litter of puppies out of your beloved girl, think twice. You are definitely in the "back-yard-breeder" territory.

Please spay and neuter.

Answer 9

I don't have a problem with people who want to breed legitimately. The one point you don't raise about your own situation is how you know your dog brings out the best in the breed. Do you belong to your breed club? Has someone who has expertise in the breed evaluated her? Are you going to show her to championship before breeding her? How are you going to select a stud?

Most people who are responsible breeders are somehow involved with the breed as whole (either showing dogs for conformation or competing for working ability) and then decide they have a dog worthy of breeding.

A lot goes into the decision and I agree it's not right to pick on people who are trying to do it right but the vast majority of the people who come here think they have a cute dog and think that's enough to want to breed it and don't consider any of the consequences - such as the thousands of dogs that die every day because of people who made the same decision they did. I've seen enough sadness to know that I have to take a stand sometimes.

Answer 10

People have a problem with this because every shelter in the united states is FULL of unwanted dogs- We are all dog lovers here, but anyone who is posting questions like "who has a dog to breed to my female?" is obviously not an educated breeder- To seriously consider breeding your dog, you need to know the breed well enough to pick the correct mate, you need some knowledge of genetics, you need to be prepared to lose your dog to complications, put down an entire litter of puppies because they have genetic problems, spend a lot of money and a lot of time trying to create the ultimate example of the breed and finding proper homes for all the pups. If you are doing it because puppies are cute, your kids would like to witness the "miracle of birth", your male dog is full of raging hormones, you shouldn't be doing it. To be perfectly honest, someone who is into their dogs breed enough is out working with their dog, showing it in conformation, getting feedback from judges and other experts in the breed, and will have no trouble finding a stud if its the right thing to do- They are not on yahoo looking for a mate- its the equivalent of sticking a sign up on the light pole in front of your house- "Dog in heat- any interested males come on by."

Answer 11

Dog breeding is not something to be taken on as a casual activity. Professional breeders spend years learning about health issues, genetics, and all sorts of information about the type/breed of animal they want to breed. Breeding should be done only by someone who wants to do it for the betterment of the breed and not for monetary gain. It is a lot of work, a huge commitment and can be very rewarding but also very stressful. I do not say that nobody should breed dogs. I'm saying that pet owners should not breed their pets. Most of them have no idea of the issues involved and just add to the problems of pet overpopulation. Not to mention the health and genetic issues they could be passing on to another generation of dogs without even knowing it. Breeding is not to be taken lightly and takes years of study and research to be done in a professional and reputable way that will serve to improve the bloodlines in a particular breed and not pass on undesirable character traits or health problems. If you want to know why some of us are so passionate about it, spend some time volunteering at your local shelter or with a rescue group. It will change your life and your perspective.