you are considered to get out with honorable discharge in this case. or what about Convenience of the Government were they let you go when they want you out but dont have a reason to kick you out. both are honorable discharges so would you still have to pay back the bonus money? or do they say no because an honorable discharge is like saying you fullfilled your duty and were a good soldier. i dont know and am asking.
2007-09-04 17:09:07 · 10 answers · asked by dannamanna99 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
of course. it was 3 years ago. and i reenlisted so i was already in for 6 years at that time. all they do is take it out of your taxes then but i was wondering if you even had to pay it back if you do get an honorable discharge for this reason.
2007-09-04 17:20:35 · update #1
yeah but i dont see were if you get out for an honorable discharge. that is useally because you dont fullfill the contract because you go awol and get a dishonorable or other then honorable. but not clear if you get an honorable.
2007-09-04 17:22:46 · update #2
i am asking because i have a buddy who got out because he peed hot. and they made him pay back some of it. but he got kicked out with other then honorable. i was wondering why they would still do that for an honorable discharge person then. or if they make you pay back less. lets say i have 3 years and a buddy has 3 years. he gets out with other then honorable or dishonorable and i get out with honorable and we both have the same bonus amount would we both pay back the same amount?
2007-09-04 17:26:21 · update #3
first CO you can do 15 years if you want. does not matter what matters is when you turn your life to God. i did this a year ago and was baptized in Jesus name. and filled with the Holy Ghost a couple months ago. i requested to become a chaplains assistant and for a year i finally got the no. also even medics have to carry a weapon the only person in the army who does not is the chaplain. i did not know at the time i was trying for but even a chaplains assistant does too. i know that if it is a big amount they dont take it all back and make you pay in cash they take it out of your tax refund. useally they take out like 90 percent or so of your refund though.
also if they do this do they take a part out? like if you did 3 years do they let you keep some of the bonus then so if 6 years you get 15000 and you did 3 years would you only have to pay back half?
2007-09-04 17:52:07 · update #4
and there was a marine who refused a weapon and did not get CO status they put him in jail because he would not use a weapon. and what about the other thing i was talking about? not the CO status but the other one? i know somethings if you get out for they dont make you pay back. this is why i was asking about this. i had a buddie who did 5 years and they let him out a year early without paying back anything. some other wierd thing and he got honorable. he requested it and was approved and he said they said he did not have to pay back his bonus or a years worth. because he was out with honorable. not saying anyone is wrong. just a reason for me asking this question.
2007-09-04 17:55:23 · update #5
thank you all. and for the one who says you can still defend your country. first that was old test. we abide by some laws but does not mean we do what they did. does not make it right to have many wives but they did. new test. says to turn your other cheeck. God protects us. i know when someone wants to fight seems like they back down and i dont have to fight. and another point we are not defending our country. we are fighting for other people. war in Iraq or anyweres else means it is not here. i tried to switch mos. i am told i cant though and that i have to go to were my mos is. and right now that is 11b that is infantry. most of that is for the fact that my hearing is bad and all i have a waiver for is for infantry. i loved it when i got in. but now things have changed. the differance now maybe is they may let me switch mos now if i claim this. but again now all mos still have a weapon. so we will see thanks
2007-09-05 02:17:00 · update #6
first my unit suggested both of those ideas. that was why i was wondering. because i was not sure. if i did not have to pay for the bonus or pay it back then i would not care if they released me. but since it seems i will have to then i will continue to try what i was doing in the first place and switch units to a support unit. there are more reasons to want to get away then just the killing people. there is so much cursing and drinking and bad jokes and stuff as well. sometimes you get put in a vehicle with just you and a female and many other things.
2007-09-05 13:25:09 · update #7
Conscientous objectors who are discharged because they feel they cannot serve in uniform without violating their religious beliefs are granted a general discharge under honorable conditions for other good and sufficient reasons as determined by the Secretary of their service. The application process and the gathering of supporting documents is not the easiest to do.
If the basis of the conscienteous objection is merely to the carrying of arms and the taking of human life, then the individual can be re-trained in roles compatible with those beliefs. I know of one who was already an Academy Award winner before World War Two, was a coscientuous objector to the taking of human life and the carrying of firearms. He won the Bronze Star during the Battle of Okinawa. His name was Lew Ayres.
2007-09-04 17:57:02 · answer #1 · answered by desertviking_00 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Being a Christian doesn't mean you can't serve your country in the military and carry a firearm. King David was an awesome warrior and a "man after God's own heart". You are defending your homeland. It is an honorable and manly thing to do. Read the Word and pray about this, talk with your chaplain about your concerns. If He tells you to leave the military, then do so. But do not think that being a Christian means you must automatically leave the military.
You want something new testament, okay:
Have a look at Luke chapter 3. John the Baptist is being asked by people how they should live. Some soldiers ask him how they should live and John's instructions are worth reading. He did not tell them to leave the military. And as far as defending your country, Iraq was a fertile ground for training and recruitment of terrorists, it's not anymore, unless we pull up and leave too early. If you don't understand that maybe you should'nt be in the military.
2007-09-04 18:17:33 · answer #2 · answered by sassy sarah 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
While I understand things may have occurred that changed your feelings on serving, if you are discharged before your contract is fufilled you will have to pay back the signing bonus. It may be prorated by the amount of time you have served, but the bulk will be returned. And, to my knowledge, they will garnish wages as well as tax returns to get the money back, especially in the case of some of the larger bonuses that have been given out. Also, I have not heard of anyone getting a CO discharge in years. Of course that does not mean they don't occur, but they usually don't happen so far into enlistment. Unfortunately, there are no military jobs or positions any longer that can keep you free from combat deployment and arms qualifications.
2007-09-05 00:45:02 · answer #3 · answered by Annie 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Count on paying back every red cent of the bonus.
The discharge will most likely be a General Under Honorable Conditions; Honorable Discharges are reserved for service members who complete the terms of their enlistment.
2007-09-05 07:35:43 · answer #4 · answered by oscarsix5 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-11-14 05:40:09 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You signed a contract for X number of years. IF you don't fulfill that, you will owe at least a portion of your bonus back. READ your contract. The answer is there.
2007-09-04 17:20:58 · answer #6 · answered by John T 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You want your bread buttered on both sides with extra Jam as well.
As you failed to live up to your part of the contract hopefully they will get ALL the money back plus interest
2007-09-04 22:04:14 · answer #7 · answered by conranger1 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
From your story - you are not a true CO - just somebody who wants the benefits without keeping his side of the bargain.
2007-09-05 02:42:19 · answer #8 · answered by MikeGolf 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you re-enlisted how can you honestly claim conscientious objector?
I mean, did you not know about the war 3 years ago?
2007-09-04 17:38:23 · answer #9 · answered by Just me 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You already spent the money, didn't you.....................
Best of luck trying to talk your way out of this one.
2007-09-04 17:18:40 · answer #10 · answered by d_cider1 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋