Not having seen the unpublished paper, by Klaus-Martin Schulte, it's hard to comment upon it, or upon its quality. I will say, however:
1. The paper has not passed peer-review and has not been published.
2. The guy who wrote it is an MD, not a climatologist.
3. Naomi Oreskes, whose research is attacked by Schulte, has already easily refuted its arguments. Here's what she said:
http://scienceblogs.com/strangerfruit/2007/08/oreskes_responds_to_schulte.php
2007-09-05 07:45:26
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answered by Keith P 7
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Oh! I just read about this, 'Dana1981' has a q/a about that and I just read an article that the leading climate scientist at NASA was stunned by Asher's remark and says something about the Asher guy not understanding some of the data. I'll look it up in a second and give you the link. I'll also try to find the Y!A q/a about this...
Edit: I couldn't find the article about the debate between Michael Asher and James Hensen (he's the leading climate scientist at NASA)
Dana1981's q/a was 'Shall we examine the recent debate on a global warming consensus?'-if you look it up, there's more info there.
James Hensen got a lot of media coverage b/c he produced the graph's that said 1998 was the warmest-then it came out that 1933 was; then, I read that the 1933 temp. was based on certain countries whereas the 1998 temp was based on all countries, including Antarctica, so...
2007-09-04 14:50:13
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answered by strpenta 7
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Arguing whether global warming is man made or not is moot. I'm a pilot, sailor, and avid outdoors man, and have seen the Greenland glaciers as well as others first hand and from all angles and their not looking pretty. I double checked the calculations and they're correct about how high the seas will rise if the glaciers are lost. anyway I own enough land around 700" above sea level that I'll make millions when everyone in Florida and anywhere that's less than 40" above sea level has to move. Even so I do my part to try to prevent this because I want to be able to show my 3 grandsons that I did what I could to give them a future.
2007-09-04 15:11:37
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answered by j2 4
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Even better, watch this. Notice that the scientist in this movie are actually doing the experiments. And one of the lead narrators was a lead scientist for the IPCC.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=220010842208417568&q=the+great+global+warming+swindle&total=129&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Here are some other interesting links. I especially like the last one, which is a bunch of former pro global warming enthusiasts, who changed their minds after doing actual scientific experiments.
Good article referring to the "Consensus". Also presents new
studies debunking the consensus as well as comparing $$ for global scare mongers vs skeptics http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/6/100434.shtml
Destroying "Disbelievers" careers
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=04373015-802a-23ad-4bf9-c3f02278f4cf
Many scientist are skeptics after seeing the evidence. List
believers who are now skeptics.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=927b9303-802a-23ad-494b-dccb00b51a12
And you might also notice if you read a lot of GW data, that the pro GW groups do not like to debate the issues. They seem stuck on the "consensus" issue, and the "Oil Money paid for this" issue.
2007-09-04 16:15:02
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answered by CrazyConservative 5
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I read the story that you linked to and several of the the links from that page. I loved it. Global warming skeptics have been labeled "traitors to the earth" and humanity, and I've been pretty happy with myself for being one. I figured all along that global warming alarmists were like the animals that went running when chicken little yelled "The sky is falling", and would eventually see the truth or stay in their hiding holes and leave the rest of us alone. I'm going to hope for the best, and I can't wait to see Al Gore shut down.
2007-09-04 19:51:58
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answered by toptuner1 2
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This piece of nonsense has been discussed extensively here already.
It's just more political nonsense by the Senator from Big Oil.
Here's the truth. The "skeptics" are few in numbers, if noisy. EVERY major scientific organization, including the official National Academy of Sciences says global warming is real and mostly caused by us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientific_...
Even the article you cite says only 32 papers of 528 were skeptical, by the author's skeptical claim. The study cited was published in a journal of questionable reputation. (ES&T is a highly reputable source, the Wall Street Journal of environmental business.):
http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2005/aug/policy/pt_skeptics.html/
and who knows how many of the 32 papers were published in that same journal.
The bottom line:
"The fact that the community overwhelmingly supports the consensus is evidenced by picking up any copy of Journal of Climate or similar, any scientific program at the meetings, or simply going to talk to scientists. I challenge you, if you think there is some un-reported division, show me the hundreds of abstracts that support your view - you won't be able to. You can argue whether the consensus is correct, or what it really implies, but you can't credibly argue it doesn't exist."
Dr. James Baker - NOAA
The vast majority of scientists know that global warming is real and mostly caused by us. People can claim it's all a giant conspiracy, as ridiculous as that is. People can claim it's all because of Al Gore, which is even more absurd. But people can't credibly argue the scientific consensus doesn't exist.
2007-09-04 14:55:38
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answered by Bob 7
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I really think this web page to be bunk. The begining of Climate Change is upon us now and I can see worse to come. The fact is we are getting warmer at an alarming rate and there certainly are many authors to this change.
The Arctic is losing ice at an alarming rate and this could easily mean the end of our Polar Bears. Interviews with the Inuit (Eskimos) have never witnessed such a change in the ice (not even in the 1930s) making them unable to use routes over the ice that are traditional.
There are thousands of garbage pits all over the world which are and have been vomiting thousands and thousands of tons of methane for many years. This polution has been steaming into the atmosphere for many years and is continuing to do so at an alarming rate.
Permafrost is beginning to melt and as it does so mega tons of methane are released.
2007-09-04 15:09:43
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answered by Anonymous
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this is the stuff the "experts" don't want the public to know.
it's always "big oil" or "a lone skeptic".
he is a partial list of scientist who refuse to participate in the lie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
remember these "experts" have been predicting calamities for 40 years. not ONE has come true.
mass death
overpopulation of earth
famine
global cooling
massive glaicers
parts of earth uninhabitable
running out of fossil fuel
this was ALL supposed to happen by the year 2000 if we didn't stop using fossil fuels.
but now, we MUST "believe" global warming is "real".
2007-09-05 01:39:11
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answered by afratta437 5
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He's a paid lobbyist for the Oil and Gas Industry. He's well known. If you research most of his statements they're made up. Just more of the same.
2007-09-05 04:36:42
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it was published in Energy and Environment. So I think it's garbage. Plus the fact that the article you gave is from Senator Inhofe's Blog. Two less credible sources you'll have a hard time finding.
2007-09-04 14:57:09
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answered by SomeGuy 6
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