Missing the boat Atheists: The Betterment of Society is you trying to fill the world?

Question

With hopeless fairy tales that things will get better when they put all of thier trust hope and faith in MAN.
Technology, Medicine and Education has been instrumental in a world of progress, but that does not give hope and and happiness to a person, that old saying *You can't by love* It is true love for your fellow human being that makes the world go round a pretty simple concept, and when people lose love for GOD they lose it for humanity and you can see if every day, we live in a growing world of coldness and bitterness twoards GOD and you see it in humanity.
The reason GOD says to forgive is because it frees us from having to do his job when it comes to *judgement* if GOD is out of the equation people will be the ultimate judge of everyone and you think that is good?

Answer 1

I love humanity on the whole, just don't care for a few human beings here and there. Deities aren't real so emotions are not attached to them. Your thinking is typically narrow-minded but I would expect no less after seeing a number of your questions.

Answer 2

Don't sell mankind short. I think it's inevitable that God will be out of the picture and human kind will learn to get along without him. The sooner we learn to stand on our own two feet, the sooner we can get through the learning curve of dealing with life on a realistic level.

God is failing as it is. For the most part people are going to be good or bad whether they believe in God or not.

Technology, medicine and education does give hope to people. So does music, the arts, and writing. The more I learn of life and the more I experience it, the more I enjoy being alive. I'm well loved and reciprocate the same.

Answer 3

You fail at logic. Let me help:

1. By putting trust and hope in man, you essentially make mankind responsible for bettering themselves. If everyone would understand that instead of buying into lies, I promise you the world would be a better place.

2. Technology, Medicine, and Education are KEY to interacting with the world around us and with each other. It would give hope and happiness of people weren't trying to limit or alter it.

3. Love for your god does not equate love for fellow man. In fact, Christians are some of the most judgemental people I know. Towards gays, towards the sick, towards anything and anyone that doesn't strictly adhere to their delusion of what is right.

4. Forgiveness can be and often is part of judgement. It is not unique to your doctrine.

Answer 4

I never had love for god to lose, and yet I have love for humanity. Explain that?

Yes, I think it is great that humans should be the ultimate judge of everything. The legal system is even based on a jury of our peers. Should someone who is so vastly different to us judge us? Somebody who has demonstrated an intolerance and lack of understanding for the human condition of getting things wrong? I really don't think that is fair.

True, you can't buy love. You have to learn it for and from your fellow human beings. This happens all the time. Notable exceptions to this are psychopaths and those who kill in the name of god. If god teaches love, why do so many people kill in his name?

The betterment of society is atheists realising they are on their own and that heavenly help will never come. Atheists do not put off the now because there is no after. Atheists realise this is all we've got and that NOW is the time to fix it. I will only grant you that atheists are no more or less likely to TRY to fix it than believers are. Apathy abounds.

We don't live in a world of bitterness towards god - we live in a world of bitterness to the acts performed by fanatics, and believers are a large percentage of those fanatics.

Answer 5

Education, Medicine and Technology give me a great amount of Hope and provide happiness to me everyday.

I am extremely lucky to live in a part of the world where they are relied upon instead of religion. If I get sick in this country, I can go to the hospital and receive the benefit of the latest medical techniques to prolong my valuable life. If I live in a religious nation, the likely hood of that decreases dramatically. Chances are that I would be prayed over and then loose some of the precious days that I could have had otherwise.

I understand that you find hope in religion and may even find happiness there, but understand that it is based on a feeling you have, and not based on known fact.

I am not built that way. I cannot fabricate faith in order to feel hopeful for the future, I need evidence to base my belief on.

I live for my family and kids, and hopefully, one day, my grand-kids. I know that Education, Medicine and Technology will make the world a better place for them, so that their valuable time on the earth can be enjoyed even more than mine. That is incredibly reassuring to me.

It is also the reason why I believe that I have a moral responsibility to help Christians like yourself, discover how detrimental your beliefs are to society.

Please look at history and the present with honesty and ask yourself if religion has really been beneficial to mankind, or whether it is used to create hope, which then creates fanatics and war mongers in the name of God. It has been going on for too long, and now religious countries are starting to attack non religions entities, like the world trade center.

Answer 6

Yes! People would be far better off without religious gobbledygook confusing the issues. The proper focus of our lives should be objective reality, including the health and happiness of our fellow citizens, not the superstitious bigotry of our bronze age ancestors. Christianity does more to prevent people from having happy meaningful lives than anything else I can think of. Perhaps if you loved your fellow human beings half as much as you love your imaginary God, you'd be able to understand.

Answer 7

You claim that the loss of love for God has increased coldness and bitterness, and that increased atheism would be a bad thing.

However, the atheists I know are not cold and bitter. Most of them have far more concern about the well being of their fellow man than those who purport to be Christians.

It seems to me that all of the coldness and bitterness comes from Christians who cling, screeching and screaming to their ancient superstitions, claiming they are the only thing keeping them from the freezing cold of the void.

Meanwhile, atheists are trying to show them that their religion is nothing more than the philosophical equivalent of a baby blanket, and if they'd just let go and actually connect with the other people around them, they'd be a lot happier.

Don't put your trust in God, don't put your trust in technology, medicine or education. Put your trust in yourself, your family and your friends, and you'll find that you don't need the others.

Answer 8

Wht don;t you chew on this for a little while, and see if you can extract some spiritual nourishment from it.

Christians make up about 75% of the US population and 75% of the US prison population. No big surprise there.

Atheists, on the other hand, make up about 10% of the US population... but they only make up 0.2% of the US prison population. Now, isn't THAT a surprise? That means that on a per-capita basis, atheists are FIFTY (50) times LESS LIKELY to be incarcerated than Christians. Pretty strange, huh, for a group that has no god-given guiding moral principals?

I can only think of two possibilities that might reasonably be said to account for this discrepancy:

1. Atheists are of a higher ethical and moral caliber than Christians (about 50 times higher, it seems, overall), and thus are less prone to do the same kinds of nasty things that land so many Christians in the slammer;

OR,

2. Atheists are, overall, a lot smarter than Christians and thus, they are less likely to get caught in the course of their transgressions.

It's GOT to be one or the other... take your pick.

(Statistics from US Bureau of Prisons, 1997)

Answer 9

that's an idealistic ingenious and prescient of the international that, sorry to assert, has no foundation in actuality. All 3 of the Abrahamic faiths have had huge traditions of humanism. suggestions you, humanism isn't purely a mundane worldview.

Answer 10

What a complete and utter load of Bull. I have never and I mean never loved God. But I still love humanity and hold out hope that people will wake up to themselves (your exhibit "A").
You and your type preach love and all things Godly when it suits you, when it doesn't it all goes out the window.
Your type say that Lucifer is Evil, well wake up and smell the roses, who do you think He learned that from, you guessed it your God. Like any child, they will copy their parents behavior.
Have a nice day.