If not why do you choose to ignore it? if you do how do you explain these facts??? i'm honestly intrested in your opinions and answers.
please give a proper accountable answer, not God said so !!!!!
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
http://www.godisimaginary.com/
2007-09-04
08:48:44
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i'm just curious because us Atheists have read the Bible and looked at sites about God etc so that we can come to a conclusion based on facts. i don't feel that Christians do this as they never give a intellectual answer backed up with facts.
2007-09-04
08:53:31 ·
update #1
The Bible is only one side of the coin and Atheism is the other you should look at both sides before deciding which way the coin falls.
you say the links are biased well isn't the Bible?
The links posted are not viruses and you will not burn in hell, burn the toast or anything else.
I see from the answers given only one or two can give a reasonable answer why be so nasty and narrow minded? You say love thy neighbour, i don't see much of that going on , this is a viable question why can you not give a viable answer.
If i do get reported then that says it all really doesn't it !!!!!
2007-09-04
09:05:44 ·
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i'm not trying to convert anyone, however we get it all the time from Christians saying things like "you will go to hell" "how can you not believe you blinded fool" we get Jehovahs knocking on the door every other week, is that not Christians trying to convert us?
2007-09-04
09:23:12 ·
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Also when at school the first thing you learn is the lords prayer whether you wnat to or not, it is pushed on you from being a child if you say you do not want to join in you are shoved in a room like an outcast, and the Christians call us ! it's all contradiction !!
2007-09-04
09:26:47 ·
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I would just like to point out that being Atheist does not make us stupid, we do not believe everything these web-sites say, but they bring up doubts and questions that can not be answered by christian believers.
2007-09-04
09:37:51 ·
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Such a gathering of platitudes and ignorance. You don't want to go to hell, so you won't look at a website? sounds more like you may be confronted with a truth you won't be able to deal with. I am always so amazed at those who believe their faith could be so easily shaken. Why be afraid to look at what someone else has to say just because it questions your belief? Are you so much a doubter that you cannot survive a website? Oh ye of little faith....
I have gone and looked and seen. I don't have a big feeling one way or another, but I am astonished that there are so many that are afraid to have even a question asked of them. It's all about faith for a Christian, isn't it? Is your faith so weak? Is your absolute belief in God, in Jesus your savior, and in the teachings of the Bible so superficial that even looking at a website could send you to hell? I thought that heaven was guaranteed to those who believe in Jesus and have accepted him? Not by works, but by faith will you be saved.
In today's world, there is MUCH that must be questioned. Unflinching devotion to a RELGION or a religious leader is an abomination to God. You are to follow Jesus, correct? Not Mr. Falwell, or Mr. Roberts. Yet, you have been cast into a valley of fear that doesn't allow you to even live a life of faith. You fear every shadow, each thought that is not like yours is suspected as the work of the Devil. Make sure you understand what Jesus said...not everything has been revealed yet, not even in the Bible.
Questioning why prayer isn't answered is a good thing. Jesus says, if we pray, God will respond. Jesus says, if we being evil know how to do right by our children, how much more so will God, being good, do for us. So I think it is GOOD to question why when we pray for peace...praying for the life of a loved one, praying that an abducted child will be found well and unharmed...why don't these prayers get answered? Jesus tells us they will be answered....and I think I'd like to know why it just isn't happening that way.
2007-09-04 09:22:30
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answered by Night Owl 5
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First, from the outset, let me say that I do not subscribe to any religion. So, in a way, I am on your "side".
But I have two comments. First, do be careful of stereotyping "Christians". I've known Christians who carefully examined arguments from a variety of sides. Some did this so that they were better equipped to debate those with opposing views and some did this because they genuinely thought it worthwhile to consider what was being said.
I've also known atheists who wouldn't read or look at or consider a theological argument. Some atheists arrived at their position after carefully considering various alternatives, but others did not.
the second point is this: if you subscribe to a certain theological position (by which I mean something like "fideism", not Christianity, per se), then considering other sides doesn't really make sense. Faith, to such people, is not answerable to reason, nor should it be. So, it makes no sense to expect that they would consider counter-arguments. they profess to know truth, but NOT by virtue of reason.
Other Christians, including a long tradition going back to the middle ages in the Catholic Church, have sought to find a middle road between rationalism and fideism. (This is the tradition from Augustine to Aquinas). These people will want to consider other positions. And others, who are decidedly rationalist, in the tradition of Descartes, who believe that their beliefs can be rationally proved, will certainly want to consider and address counter-arguments.
But a fideist, which many modern, especially Evangelical Christians are, believes that his answers are "accountable" only to God, not to reason or science or evidence. If they don't even profess to be basing their beliefs on reason, it's pointless to debate them in that way.
2007-09-04 09:11:21
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answered by Gnu Diddy! 5
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I'm a Christian, and I will answer questions by Atheists if you asked specific questions, I could answer more directly. Frankly I think people will try to avoid confrontation at all costs :)
I also don't think it's a Christians job to "try" and persuade atheist's that their way of thinking is flawed or wrong. It's God's. We don't fight against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities.
Basically your not going to convince a Christian that God doesn't exist, and only God can convince an atheist that He is real. Arguing over theologies is just a headache and it doesn't get anyone anywhere.
If you want answer about something specific, ask.
Have a good day!
-MeMe-
2007-09-04 09:14:25
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answered by MeMe 2
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I watched the first twenty minutes of Zeitgeist and couldn't stop laughing. So much of it was plagiarized from pseudo-scholars' works that it was just ridiculous. Those same ideas were already published: See "Sixteen Dying and Rising Gods" and "The Golden Bough."
But when it tried saying that Horus was born of a virgin...ha ha now THAT is funny. Isis was married to Osiris, and there is no reason to assume that they never had relations.
I'm working on the points from godisimaginary.com and jesusneverexisted.com. They were both saved to my favorites on my old computer (which is pretty much dead, as of a couple days ago)(good thing I had a back-up!), so I'll have to resave them to this computer. I'm not sure how much of my old research and answers are still saved. The virus that got my old computer ate a LOT of stuff before I caught it. Anyway, I think I'm going to have to start from scratch. Sigh.
2007-09-04 08:59:04
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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definite. Thomas Aquinas destroyed all proper atheistic philosophical arguments interior the thirteenth Century. as much as now, no atheist has ever effectively refuted all 5 of Aquinas' proofs of God; and as all of us be attentive to further and extra with regard to the beginnings of our universe, plainly the 1st reason and popular mover proofs will stand constantly -- till, by some ability, we locate out the universe does not have a finite age. something of the atheistic arguments are cleverly disguised logical fallacies, 0.5-truths, and disingenuous rhetoric. Atheists have not any data and make claims supported via empty negation. i've got seen those atheists argue. They make claims and then attempt to alter the regulations of rhetoric via offering negation and fake analogy as data. needless to say you have on no account seen an atheist argue a Catholic apologist. to no longer destroy the ending, however the atheist gets creamed each time.
2016-10-09 22:54:14
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1. As a christian I do occasioinally look at the links atheist post. (I do not look at all links christians post on here either presently).
2. I can also see presently (I struggled with the 'deviations' (7) in Christianity for about 35 years; they still exist today; 'Why do others not see them?'), why 'atheists' can be 'turned off' by illogical Christians.
Can we presently communicate objectively from there on the point?
2007-09-04 09:18:09
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answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7
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I go to God for my information. Not people. Yes, I have read some of your information. Your links are written by human beings and are their false interpretation of truth.
The Bible is God's written Word to us.
It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit.
“Above all you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” 2 Peter 1:20-21. (New International Version)
Breakdown of the Bible
36 human authors inspired entirely by God over 1600 years.
66 separate books
39 Old Testament
Genesis- The creation of the world, sin, flood and birth of Israel
Exodus to Esther- History of the nation of Israel
Job to Proverbs- the books of poetry and wisdom
Isaiah to Malachi- Prophecy or foretelling of the future events to come.
27 New Testament
Matthew to John - Four Gospels representing the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ now with all authority in Heaven and earth.
Acts- Birth of the Church (The Bride of Christ)
Romans to Jude - Letters to the Churches
Revelations - The ultimate future plans for: The Church, Heaven, Hell, a New Heaven and a New Earth.
Here are some Bible Study Resources which were also written by people for anything you may want to look up. These people take their information from the Bible, which is truth, wisdom and has reason if only you can understand.
http://www.Biblegateway.com
http://www.Ntgateway.com
http://www.Bible.org
http://www.bible-history.com
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
2007-09-04 09:10:29
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answered by 4HIM- Christians love 7
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Ok, I took a quick peek at your links. Is this the best you can do? All of this malarkey has been rehashed over and over. Condescending rhetoric is not how you convince people that you're speaking truth. It's going to be hard to convince Christians that what they experience and live is not true. Many of us have lived in both worlds. We came out of unbelief and sin. You're not an enlightened bunch. We have been where you are. There is nothing new in the skeptics handbook that we haven't seen. All the evidence is in - and we know what is truth and what is a lie. It's truly amazing you haven't seen it yet.
2007-09-04 09:07:13
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answered by JohnFromNC 7
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I don't like to say I am Christian... I believe in the Bible and God but... I don't follow it like a "christian" should, so I don't call myself that, it makes me feel like a hypocrit. I do look at the links that atheists post. I am interested in learning (not bashing) other religions, cultures, and opinions on the subject. I do it for my own information. I like to learn about things in the world and other people, and I might not agree with what other people think and apply it to my own life... but the way I see it, there are millions of people in this world, all of which have different opinions on everything. Who am I to say that you are wrong and I am right? I am only one opinion in the millions out there!
2007-09-04 09:02:53
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answered by ϑennaß 7
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I go to a lot of atheist based sites and have answered many questions posted by admitted atheists. I like to have a wide variety of opinions and I seldom make judgments. Please note that I never once used the name of my God. I do have to wonder if you do the same kind of research about the beliefs of Christians, other than to bash their views. Just asking. By the way, that's not a judgment-just an observation.
2007-09-04 08:58:02
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answered by phlada64 6
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