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okay i am a muslim and i am trying to get some sort of insight on the trinity, can anyone give me an analogy on it cause it makes no sense and i don c how christians are monotheistic if they pray to three different things aight thanx

2007-09-04 08:21:20 · 11 answers · asked by Lucky 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

then explain to me why the father would kill himself to save you from him since he is the creator he must have created hell, and how could jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, be his own father and what about all his other prophets why do you not worship them then.

2007-09-04 08:33:45 · update #1

sorry for all the add ons but another thing i havent seen the actual word trinity in the hard copy bible but in the quran it says speciffiacly dont say three god is one

2007-09-04 08:37:01 · update #2

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They cannot explain it, in another ??? they were using 3 parts of a apple, clergymen will tell you it's a mystery, God does not have something written that one cannot understand, the reason they cannot explain it is: "they do not have God's Holy Spirit", also how can you explain something that does not exist.

There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.

He has cleverly kept a large proportion of mankind in darkness by means of false religion, making them think that they are serving God. Lacking in accurate knowledge of God and in love for truth, they may be attracted by mystical and emotional religious services or be impressed by powerful works.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

2007-09-04 09:03:04 · answer #1 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 0

The Father -God
The son- Jesus
The Holy Spirit = the Trinity
We believe that God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins on the cross. (Virgin Birth) God sent His Spirit to impregnate Mary. When Jesus was murdered he rose from the dead and ascended to sit at the right hand of the Father "God" in heaven. Jesus left us the Holy Spirit as a helper for Christians on this earth. It's three in one, they are all the same just different forms of God the father. When a person gets saved or acknowledges God, we are accepting the Spirit of God in our lives. AKA the Holy Spirit. If this doesn't make sense I'm sorry, I tried to explain it to the best of my ability. If you read the book of Matthew it better explains it :)
Have a good day!
-MeMe

2007-09-04 08:38:36 · answer #2 · answered by MeMe 2 · 0 1

Consider yourself Lucky never having to pray to a triune God.
(Lucky - har de har har, ain't I funny, lol!)

Seriously though, the trinity is a false doctrine. You are correct, Christians who believe in a trinity are not monotheists, they are polytheists, although they are most unaware of it. They will staunchily deny this, and some may even attack you for ever saying this, but really, it's the truth.

God is ONE. No partners, no "Persons" and no co-Redemptors.

EDIT: To the guy right above me, you quote 1 John 5:7. This is the only Biblical "proof" of the trinity. Ah, however this little tidbit was into the Bible It's called the Comma Johanneum. The Comma was added as a side note in the 10th century, and in the 16th century it was inserted into the actual text. HOWEVER, it is NOT ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE.

We are to IGNORE the Comma. It is FALSE.

2007-09-04 08:31:31 · answer #3 · answered by Dolores G. Llamas 6 · 0 1

It was a third century theological argument to explain how there could be three Gods, but still be only one. The Bible calls the combination the Godhead. They are distinct divine personages but united in purpose. Jesus Christ instructed us to pray to Heavenly Father. He taught us to give Him the Glory. The Holy Ghost is a revelor of truth. We do not pray to Him.

2007-09-04 08:26:34 · answer #4 · answered by Isolde 7 · 1 1

the holy trinity is not Three different things, it is only one. I can see how you would be confused though. It is like this. God is all powerful and is a spirit, He is everywhere at once, so a piece of Him came to be on Earth as Yeshua (Jesus) and when Yeshua died on the cross, then The Comforter, (Holy Spirit) came here, because without some form of God here, life would be unbearable. They are the same essence, but different forms.
For the kids, I compare it to something they know. Water. Water (God) is everywhere but when we take part of it, and freeze it, we have ice (Yeshua) and when we melt the ice and then evaporate the water, we have steam (The Holy Spirit). They are all from the same water, but in different forms.

2007-09-04 08:32:50 · answer #5 · answered by † Seeker of Truth † 4 · 0 2

There is one God. he was manifested in the flesh and lived as Jesus. he was crucified, died and rose and gave up his ghost - the Holy Spirit.

The trinity is actually the 3 forms or offices that the oe God operates in. In order to come to the Father we have to go through the son whom died for us. Thus, we pray and ask all things "in the name of Jesus".

I know it is complicated but I am willing to discuss this and other christian priniples more in depth with you if you'd like.

I'll be praying for you.

2007-09-04 08:31:31 · answer #6 · answered by blesssedservant 2 · 0 1

It is simple and clear the three are one. The Word refers to Christ.

1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

2007-09-04 08:30:17 · answer #7 · answered by Bible warrior 5 · 1 0

Think of it as three masks that one person wears.
Or 3 facets on one jewel.

The three are seen as individual and separate on one level, but are in reality one thing (which is seen on another level). One who understands can see both the trinity and singularity simultaneously.

Christianity has their trinity - but it is one God.
Hinduism as a trinity or multitude (depending on sect) - but its highest teachings is all is one God.

But people get caught up with the masks and forget that ultimately there is only one God...and both teach only one divinity.

~ Eric Putkonen

2007-09-04 08:33:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Father, Son, Holy Spirit. John 1:1

You are body soul and spirit, how come you can't be 3 in one?

2007-09-04 08:28:05 · answer #9 · answered by pattscool 4 · 0 0

Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, keep the Catholic faith. For unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire, he will undoubtedly be lost forever. This is what the catholic faith teaches: we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Spirit.

But the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have one divinity, equal glory, and coeternal majesty. What the Father is, the Son is, and the Holy Spirit is.

The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated. The Father is boundless, the Son is boundless, and the Holy Spirit is boundless. The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Spirit is eternal.

Nevertheless, there are not three eternal beings, but one eternal being. So there are not three uncreated beings, nor three boundless beings, but one uncreated being and one boundless being. Likewise, the Father is omnipotent, the Son is omnipotent, the Holy Spirit is omnipotent.

Yet there are not three omnipotent beings, but one omnipotent being. Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

However, there are not three gods, but one God. The Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Spirit is Lord. However, there are not three lords, but one Lord. For as we are obliged by Christian truth to acknowledge every Person singly to be God and Lord, so too are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.

The Father was not made, nor created, nor generated by anyone. The Son is not made, nor created, but begotten by the Father alone. The Holy Spirit is not made, nor created, nor generated, but proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is, then, one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits. In this Trinity, there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less. The entire three Persons are coeternal and coequal with one another. So that in all things, as is has been said above, the Unity is to be worshiped in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity.

He, therefore, who wishes to be saved, must believe thus about the Trinity. It is also necessary for eternal salvation that he believes steadfastly in the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thus the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and man. As God, He was begotten of the substance of the Father before time; as man, He was born in time of the substance of His Mother. He is perfect God; and He is perfect man, with a rational soul and human flesh. He is equal to the Father in His divinity, but inferior to the Father in His humanity. Although He is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ. And He is one, not because His divinity was changed into flesh, but because His humanity was assumed unto God. He is one, not by a mingling of substances, but by unity of person. As a rational soul and flesh are one man: so God and man are one Christ. He died for our salvation, descended into Hell, and rose from the dead on the third day. He ascended into Heaven, sits at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there He shall come to judge the living and the dead. At His coming, all men are to arise with their own bodies; and they are to give an account of their own deeds. Those who have done good deeds will go into eternal life; those who have done evil will go into the everlasting fire.

This is the Catholic faith. Everyone must believe it, firmly and steadfastly; otherwise He cannot be saved. Amen.

2007-09-04 08:27:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

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