(On YA if you want more christians than athiests you need to address the other group).
If god is the "craftsman" of life.
why are there so many different ways that different animals and creatures and plants all achieve the same end.
whether it be a respritory system, or a way to cool down the body from overheating or methodology to digest similar types of food?
If god as the creator of life (according to creationists) found a system that works, why change it up?
why not use the most efficient, effective system for all his creations?
Explain how different creatures have different methods of dealing with the same condidtions in thier environment.
how do you explain that this could have happened if you have one "designer" who creates all things.
The only options I see to solve this riddle are:
1- there is more than one "god" or "creator".
or
2- you now have a philisophical argument as well as scientific arguments ***** slapping you in the face.
2007-09-04 05:38:02 · 24 answers · asked by Bluto Blutarsky16 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
let me be clear:
I AM NOT referring to different ways to live in DIFFERENT environments. I'm referring to DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADAPT TO THE SAME environment OR achieve the same end, such as flight or (simple one) a body's cooling system to regulate heat. Compare a dog's method vs. sweating (human) vs. a lizard's or a scorpion's. Compare different ways they need to digest similar substances and absorb certian nutrients.
Also another level of this is why create "pest" symbiot creatures like the mosquito?
2007-09-04 05:57:19 · update #1
Night Owl: please read this argument again before you go off with sally jupiter and try to break rorschach out of prison to go after ozymandias.
I'm not proposing that one single design is the best for every environment, I'm asking "why change a design that works for that environment" and achieves the same end? If we had an "intelligent" designer, they would use one mechanism that works to achieve the same end.
2007-09-04 06:01:36 · update #2
cyclones, you may post your answers here with the "EDIT" feature, that way everyone has an opportunity to see.
as predicted, you have missed the point. If your best responce is that different creatures have different methods of bearing children in the same environment because it would be "boring" otherwise, or different body cooling systems becuase it is boring, then you have a ridiculous argument.
stick to the bible where you can just "invent" answers. Your assertion about how humans act has nothing to do wiht how creatures adapt or why they have different adaptations for dealing with the same issues in the same environment.
also your demand to know what did happen is evidence of your mentality to jump for the first answer, rather than one that is backed by evidence or logic rather than looked at analytically.
2007-09-04 06:37:29 · update #3
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2007-09-04 06:37:50 · update #4
Good old reverse psychology. Bluto, you're a besotted genius.
To the question: God is not about efficiency, in a human definition of the word. God is more about variety and beauty. Basically, what looks like efficiency to us is only because our minds are human and narrow compared to God's.
One God. One creator. Love of variety. Evolution as His decision on how to make people.
Slap in my face. Oooo, daddy. Can I have more please? :)
2007-09-04 05:42:57 · answer #1 · answered by Acorn 7 · 4⤊ 3⤋
If all the animals and plants and creatures and such worked the same exact way, it would be a boring place, in order for them all to work the same, they would have to atleast look similar in shape.
Found a system that works. Lets put it this way. God had a damn near perfect system working, then the "creatures" he created to rule the world, humans, were tempted by the opposite of God, the Devil/snake, Ofcourse to keep everything in balance you must have a good and an evil. It isn't God that is changing things that were "perfect." It's humans. God decided to let us go free and basically have fun in this world. Then we decided to mess everything up, God could completly fix everything, or he can help us to fix everything ourselves. You say there are only two options according to your argument.
1-there is more than one "god" or "creator"
How does anything you said prove this at all?
2-you now have a philisophical argument as well as scientific arguments ***** slapping you in the face.
You're also wrong here. Your scientists are heretics, they claim that the universe spontaniously exploded and expanded from a tiny grain of matter; yet they also claim that matter cannot be created nor destroyed.
Here's my question to you, feel free to e-mail me your answer:
If God does not exist, where did we come from? Monkeys? ok, where did monkeys come from? fish? ok, and fish came from? Smaller organisisms? and those? i can go on forever and you'd never be able to answer where we came from excluding that God is real and created us.
2007-09-04 05:58:44 · answer #2 · answered by cyclones_rul 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
9/6/07 11:12 PST
Why limit God in any way? I love that He created all creatures - even within one species - so very different. Oh - and the bothersome insects? God created all things to live in harmony, it wasn't until after Adam & Eve sinned that creatures were changed. (Genesis)
Jom M. said it well
"To the question: God is not about efficiency, in a human definition of the word. God is more about variety and beauty. Basically, what looks like efficiency to us is only because our minds are human and narrow compared to God's."
To Robert2020: Humans are responsible for most extinct animals, aren't they??? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
To SimonT: The questions was directed specifically for Atheists to answer - maybe most Christians were trying to be polite and not but in where we weren't invited. Just a thought.
2007-09-06 19:11:54 · answer #3 · answered by Sandra C 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, the argument you make doesn't really seem to hold much water. Let's use that for example. The most efficient way to breath under water is gills...not the kind of lungs we have...so depending on environment, there would seem to be no single best method to do any action. Seems that the beasts that creepeth on the earth are well designed for their envirionment, no matter how they got that way. But if you were designing something...say a boat....you wouldn't be able to design one that would work optimally in all environments...you'd have to have flat bottom boats for rivers and swamps, and deep hull boats for open seas, etc.
So, while I agree that there are several philisophical and scientific arugments to be had between strict creationism and strict evolutionism, this particular argument isn't logical. It proposes that there is one single design that is the best, and that's just not possible in a world where there are a myriad of environments where life thrives.
2007-09-04 05:49:54 · answer #4 · answered by Night Owl 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
It is just like a child playing with Lego. At first you made some simple things. Later you made more complicated ones. You keep the ones you like for a long while. You discarded those you do not like.
It is so much fun, so you keep on playing with it, making new things all the time. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday ... Oops.
2007-09-11 17:36:23 · answer #5 · answered by OKIM IM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is a benign entity. The stage is not necessarily set with all the players given specific roles. There is no grand being keeping conduct grades or interacting with the physical laws of nature.
2007-09-12 02:39:48 · answer #6 · answered by Iconoclast 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It looks like all the Christians that clicked this link slunk of without replying.
I wonder why.
For a theistic response:
The Lord moves in mysterious ways my son. Now sit down and don't ask awkward questions.
2007-09-04 05:46:00 · answer #7 · answered by Simon T 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Simple answer: FSM was drunk when he created the world, and that's why everything is so shoddy.
More serious answer: It's cool how we can look at features that are pretty much arbitrary, like number of fingers, and find that pretty stable across related groups of species, even if they have different types of limbs. Yet, stuff that would benefit species in different environments tends to change.
I really don't see how anyone can look at life, both the similarities and differences between species, and conclude anything other than that evolution happened, but that's partly because I have historical perspective (and molecular biology!) on my side. Darwin needed some pretty nifty insight to come up with natural selection.
2007-09-04 05:42:29 · answer #8 · answered by Minh 6 · 10⤊ 5⤋
Maybe God created evolution. Problem solving is much more interesting than sitting in a garden eating apples. God would have to be interesting.
2007-09-04 06:24:43 · answer #9 · answered by Shintz62 4 · 0⤊ 3⤋
The lost calling for the lost, hahaha now I seen it all the sheep calling for the sheep hahahaha oh my dear Lord forgive them but I doubt it.
2007-09-10 03:14:23 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋