Am I wrong here?

Question

According to the Bible, all people sin, even righteous people. Ecclesiastes 7:20 says "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.."

So, even if one is righteous, as a human we sin sometimes.

What is the cutoff on sinning? How much is too much before one is no longer a "true" Christian?

Even Jesus doesn't judge those who commit sins - he SAVES them. John 12:47 states "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it."

It is not for us to judge other's worth in salvation. Luke 6:37
states "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

So, if someone commits the sin of sodomy, of whatever kind (hetero or homo -- remember, unnatural acts between same sex couples are also sins.... and that's true of even husbands and wives! Think of that, next time you try manual, oral or an@l with your wife or girlfriend...) - your job is not judge them or condemn them. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Am I wrong?

I'm not "condemning" or "judgmental" at all. The Bible does specify what are sins. And what gets me about the whole homosexual argument that Christians make is that the SAME Christians that descry homos as hellbound sinners will go home and engage in sinful activities with their wives. Sodomy is sodomy right?

Whether people sin is not the issue. They do. The idea is that we aren't to judge or condemn them at all. That doesn't mean that what they do is right. It means that we forgive them for doing wrong, just as Jesus did.

Answer 1

No you are right. There is a saying hate the sin but love the sinner. You can never sin too much to not be a Christian God still loves and forgives you if you confess.

Answer 2

Any true believer is always saved once they truly believe. You are right, we will struggle with sin until the day we die because we are human and we live in a world run by sin and will fall to temptation. We also commit sins of omission and don't even realize it so never ask for the forgiveness of them. Grace gets us into Heaven not works. Works can however get us rewards in heaven, but only for the things that were done with a right heart. Those who believe good works will get them into heaven should consider 2 things from the bible. 1] the criminal on the cross was told by Jesus he would be in heaven that day, that means he never had a chance to do good deeds, and 2] in Revelation it says that at judgment we will be divided into 2 groups those who believed in what Christ did and accepted it and those who relied on their good deeds. Notice in the story they are not even given a chance to plead their case they are just sent to the fire pit. It is the believers who will be given the chance to go over their lives and deeds not the unbelievers. That says a lot.

Answer 3

Right! No sin is beyond God's infinite capacity to forgive. What that means is even the most despiscable person can, if they give themselves to God and earnestly seek forgiveness, be gifted with eternal life in the light of Christ.
However, I think it is also reasonable to infer that a person who is sinful and honestly finds Salvation through Jesus, will change their sinful habits and start living by faith. Being born again means becoming a new person in Christ, and whatever your past sins may have been they must stay in your past. The guarantee of salvation is not a free ticket to do whatever you please because God has locked on to your soul forever. Once you are saved you will be compelled, with love in your heart, to live according to God's design.

Answer 4

Being a sinner is something that cannot be avoided for imperfect humans.
We are born sinners , we will die sinners.

Jesus ransom sacrifice however made atonement possible for our accidental mistakes.
God is willing to to overlook these shortcomings.

1John 2:2 'And he (Jesus) is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole worlds '(whole world of mankind)

But if a person willingly commits wrong things then the sin offering of Jesus no longer covers them.

1John 3:7,8 '-Let no one mislead you: he who carries on in righteousness is righteous, just as that one is righteous. He who carries on sin originates with the Devil'

We know that the Devil is promised to be destroyed , along with humankind that follow his ways.

So after learning what is required by God to please him and yet we continue to choose to follow the ways of Satan's world we are committing sins that are not forgiven.

God is loving and kind , but he most certainly does not accept willful disobedience.

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Answer 5

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Answer 6

Some people commit sins without even knowing. there's people who never even heard of Christ or sin...my point is once you KNOW then your accountable...if you continue to sin in the same way Satan has control of you...but yes if you ask for forgiveness with your heart and tongue Christ will forgive you...

Answer 7

You are right to say there is no judgement, but that is while we are alive.
In Romans 14:10,12 says "But what do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ.....So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.
In 2 corinthians 5:10 it says "For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ that each one may recieve the things done in the body, according to what he has done, wheather good or bad.
John 3:16-17 states that a person must belive in Jesus to be saved. So, there is no cutoff for how much you can sin. Just one sin can come between you and God. That is why John 3:30 says " He must increase, but i must decrease". Those people that are truly seeking after God will not like any sin that they see in thier life. These people turn to God and ask for forgiveness and how to grow and God that they may not sin anymore or to reveal any sin that they may not know. Romans 2:12-16 - "For as many as have sinned without the law will also perish without to law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not hearers fo the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified: for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets fo men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel"
When you die you will be judged by your actions, attitude, motives, and everything else you can plug in there, ex: words and thoughts.
He did COME to save us, but when we GO to Him we will be judged.

Answer 8

If anyone commit,s a sin and does not repent of it,they will die in their sin,s and go to Hell,we can,t judge people ,God will judge them at the Judgement Day.

Answer 9

If we continue in willfull sin, then it is my belief according to Scripture that we were never saved to begin with.

But, all sin is forgiveable (1 John 1:9)

We all still sin & fall short daily.........but what do we do about it?

Do we have Godly sorrow or worldly sorrow? (2 Cor 7:10)

That's the difference

Answer 10

I was completely in agreement with you until I read the bit in the parentheses. You sound extremely judgmental and condemning in that bit!