if "born-agains" don't believe that the Bible was compiled by the Catholic Church, how was it compiled then?

Question

do they believe it has fallen from the sky and, voala, the Bible is there in their lap neatly compiled!

Gem, read history please.

compiled by king james??? LOL!!! a very resounding laughter coming from me! thanks so much for the laugh. really it's so hilarious! no wonder so many "born-agains" use the kjv bah-bul. LOL!

Genghis, me too! :))

GRANNYOF5, don't bother asking him. he couldn't give you any source anyway. he's just parroting what he heard from his favorite pastor. LOL!

Answer 1

Good question. They're too busy pretending that Catholics are the Anti-Christ and deluding themselves "adding to the prophecies" in Revelation.

If we had it Luther's way we'd be without the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation.

The regional or local Catholic Church Councils of Hippo, 393 A.D., and Carthage, 397 A.D., and later, Carthage 419 A.D. gave us the canon of Sacred Scripture as we know it today. Although these were just local councils, Saint Augustine did insist that the list given by these councils be sent to Rome for approval. Pope Saint Siricius (384-399 A.D.) approved the canon just as his papal predecessor Pope Damasus I had done in a Synod in 382 A.D. with a formal writing "Decretal of Gelasius", de recipiendis et non recipiendis libris. (The archeological findings and analysis pertaining to the Council of Rome 382 A.D. and some of the Popes may not be a settled fact.) A friend of Saint Jerome, Saint Exuperius of Toulouse, a Gallican bishop, wrote to Pope Innocent I in a formal letter requesting the list of canonical books. The Pope replied in February of 405 A.D. with a letter (Consulenti Tibi) confirming and reaffirming the canon given at Hippo and Carthage. The Ecumenical Council of Florence again affirmed the list of inspired books in 1442 A.D., about 100 years before the Council of Trent. The "Decretum pro Jacobitis" by Pope Eugenius IV lists the inspired books, and according to the common teaching of theologians, these documents are infallible states of doctrine. Since there was no urgent challenge or compelling reason why it should, the Ecumenical Council of Florence did not dogmatically pass on the canonicity of the inspired books.

Answer 2

<> From God. <> The Holy Spirit provided the Divine Guidance necessary to discern which books belonged in the Bible, and which ones did not. << This is a major dilemma for those who contend that the Catholic Church is not the true Church that Jesus founded. If this is so, how can anyone trust or rely on the Bible as the word of God? It seems that all Christians who claim they are Bible believing are forced to accept that the Catholic Church had God's authority to compile the Bible and was inspired by the Holy Spirit in the task.>> In doing so, they validate the Authority of the Catholic Church - that is why some of them try so hard to distance the Catholic Church from the Bible. <> Also, IF the Bible was really "of man" - then it would have been exposed as a fraud by now. The fact it hasn't Confirms the Catholic Church's Authority.

Answer 3

Of course, the Bible was compiled, canonized,copied and handed down by the Catholic Church,but to acknowledge that would accept the authority given by God to the Catholic Church, the mother and grandmother of all the Christian Churches that exist.

There is a unity between the
1) One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Tradition( Oral Paradosis) and its Teaching ( Oral Didache) and the

2)OHC&A New Testament which came out of and and is in the context of that Apostolic Tradition and by which the Old Testament ( in its Oral Mosaic Torah Tradition) is interpreted,applied and "contexted" and the

3)OHC&A Church which alone is authorized,equipt and inspired authentically to interpret and apply the OHC&A Bible in the OHC&A Tradition

LOL over the King James1 being the one who could "authorize" the Bible . After all the KJV is the AV,"Authorized Versin" by decree of the heir of that inspired church -founder Henry VIII!

Some folks think that the Apostle St James(Lesser or greater?-they don't say) translated the KJVas the "ST. James Version" which must have been the version that Jesus used since "If it was good enough for Moses,it is good enough for me!"

Everybody has some sort of tradition and authority (be it Pastor X, Ellen White or some "prophet', Reformer Y ,Dr. Z or my own ego ) as magisterium for interpretation and application of the Bible.

'Apostolicity and the Church", the document on apostolicity by the joint Lutheran -Catholic Commission on Unity,points out that Vatican I in 1870 delared that "the church does not confer canonical authority but holds the biblical books'to be sacred....they have God as their author and have been deliverd as such to the Church' (DS 3006). The Church and its hierarchy are recipients of the inspired and canonical books"(para397,pg 174)
Paragraph 398 points out that Vatican 2 in Dei Verbum 8.3 teaches "that knowledge of the biblical canon is a benefit of the tradition which comes from the apostles and is understood progressively in the church.".

Answer 4

I don't know what a hardcore fundamentalist might think, but, the Bible at best, was only compiled. I sense there may have been some editing, especially during the Counciil of Nicea in 325AD. Why were other scriptures and Gospels not included? Did they envoke the Holy Spirit to guide them as to what to include or exclude? Why not include it all and let the reading public decide? Of course, in 325, only a small number of people could read.

The Holy Bible as its called now, is not everything. It does not include ALL of the relevent scripture.

The mere act of "compiling" the Bible was editorial by nature because it did not include all sacred/Holy scripture (from the Christian/Judeo tradition(s)).

And yet, I remain a Christian. Albeit with A LOT of questions....

Regards

Answer 5

It was compiled by the Catholic church. Not written by and never changed by them...but through the guidance of the holy spirit, the books which are the inspired word of God were compiled into the Bible we now use. Of course the Protestants use the Bible that Martin Luther created. He had 7 books removed from the inspired Word of God that he decided were not to his liking.

Answer 6

Even back in my Baptist days, I knew the translation history of the Bible in my hands -- and that the KJV was not the first or only -- so where are all of these notions coming from?

Folks, the KJV was translated into English in 1611 directly from the Latin Vulgate, itself a translation from the Greek and Hebrew texts by St. Jerome in the year 405. And at that, the KJV was not the first English translation of the New Testament. Tyndale's was done in 1526. The Douay-Rheims translation into English, which retained the entire canon of Scripture including the Deuterocanonical books set aside as apocrypha by Reformation translators, preceded the KJV as well.

These facts are easily verified with any unbiased historical source you care to consult.

And speaking of unbiased sources: CJ, please cite one for your allegations.

Answer 7

The final decission about the N.T. canon was made in the year 397 A.D.This decission was made by a large gathering of churchleaders from many locations.It we believe was written by Holy men as they were inspired by God the Holy Spirit.

Answer 8

About 50 guys did the kjv all different beliefs.
My grandmother has been going to the catholic chruch her whole life ,but doesn't follow all the traditions.
GOD BLESS

Answer 9

I like to emphasize "Catholic" and not "Roman Catholic".

Catholic meaning when Eastern Orthodox and Western Roman Catholics were 1 church.

Yeah, I find it weird when Protestants / Born Agains condemn the Catholics and Orthodox with the very book the Catholics and Orthodox compiled for them.

Answer 10

Of course we all know the catholics are the driving force behind all religions. And the fall from the sky theory goes well with all of the other "miracles" supposedly performed in the book itself.