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He uttered not one word about starting a new religion. He called for the Jewish elders to reform their practices and to put the needs of the people before their own. But he remained a Jew in every respect.

2007-09-04 03:58:10 · 19 answers · asked by Bad Liberal 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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You lumping all "Jews" into one group is a little Sunday School simplistic.

It's like saying Pat Robertson and the Pope are "the Christians," . . . how much do they really have in common?

The Sadducees only recognized the Torah, the first five books of Moses -- the 'laws,' that Jews respected and followed. (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.)

Jesus ignored many of these laws -- from touching a woman who was menstruating, to the dietary laws, to working on the Sabbath.

Those laws were written during a specific time, and were observed by people who were more or less frozen in time -- modern Muslims, for example, who more or less observe the same laws.

They believed God spoke once, and stopped speaking.

The Sadducees didn't believe in any idea of a Resurrection, while the Pharisees did.

The Pharisees recognized the prophets, and they did recognize Jesus as a teacher, "rabbi." The Pharisees were expecting a "Messiah," so some Pharisees ended up following Jesus . . .Nicodemus and Saul/Paul, for example.

Curiously, we read nearly nothing in the Bible about the Essenes.

Essenes believed the prophet Isaiah, and they were waiting for a Messiah . . .

Three different groups of "Jews," with three different views of יהוה

Jesus didn't remain a "Jew in every respect," he radically changed what it mean to be in relationship with the God of Abraham.

He interacted with non-Jews, including people who the Torah said to avoid, as well as Roman officers.

Jesus changed who "Jews" were supposed to be, and changed who all of us were supposed to be, if we want to be in relationship with the God who created the universe.

Godspeed.

2007-09-04 04:08:32 · answer #1 · answered by jimmeisnerjr 6 · 2 3

Christ actually did utter words of starting a new religion, in a way. The Jewish faith should have been one and the same though with Christianity, seeing as the Old Testament words were all about Christ. Sure Christ was a jew. He was of that lineage. And the words taught to Abraham were from Christ or Jehova or whatever you'd like to call Him.

But He did mention several times that he came to fulfill the law, and that he was changing things. For instance, look at all the scriptures that start with "you have heard it said in old times you should...." A prime example was what to do with your neighbors. He mentioned the law of an eye for an eye, etc., but he also said "But I say to love your enemeys, bless them that curse you, do good to them that despitefully use you..."

So yes, he did change the law given to Moses. However, it should also be noted that he had changed the law given to Moses before too! Why? Because the people at the time were so hard-hearted from years and years in captivity that they needed a more strict "law" of rules.

Finally, consider what happened to Peter and sharing the gospel with the Gentiles. Remember the vision where Peter said "I can't eat those foods!" and the Lord said to not call unclean what the Lord had cleansed!

A great deal of changes were ushered in with the Lord's Birth, Ministry, Death, Resurrection, and establishment of the Apostles. But those changes were not out of line with the teachings of the Old Testament - they were simply out of line with the teachings of the pharisees of the time.

Oh, and Christ was a Christian. For what is a Christian, if not a follower of the words of Christ? He was no hypocrite, and followed his own words, even to the Cross. He was a Christian in very deed!

2007-09-04 04:10:35 · answer #2 · answered by Eyce 1 · 1 2

Christ was not trying to start a "new religion" he was trying to rectify the Jewish elders who had become corrupt. So he started preaching and doing miracles and he was destined to suffer the way he did. This was written and is clear in the bible. Those that followed him created what we call Christianity. It is a good thing to have a better understanding about this and it is a very good question. Here's a star for you. Peace!

2007-09-04 04:10:04 · answer #3 · answered by Darla 5 · 1 1

and the first Christians were Jewish, until they were kicked out of the synagogues after the council of Jamnia. It is misleading to say Jesus remained a Jew in every respect: there were many currents of religious reform and reconstruction amongst Israel at the time of Jesus.The Pharisaic-messianic strain of Judaism that Jesus belonged to is clearly in organic union with the direction of the early Church, especially taking into account the excommunications. And in fact Christians believe that Jesus did guide the early Church, through his Spirit, in the direction it went.

2007-09-04 04:08:16 · answer #4 · answered by rebecca v d liep 4 · 2 1

Christianity is built on misreading Torah and Tanakh. Jesus didn't fulfill any Messianic prophecies. Early Christians got real creative in taking single lines out of context and reading the words wrong.

Very few of them are interested in taking the time to find out what the Hebrew actually means. They'd much rather misquote it (or the Christian writings which misquote it) than give your question the respect it deserves.

2007-09-04 05:26:58 · answer #5 · answered by The angels have the phone box. 7 · 2 1

Except for the whole working on the Sabbath thing... and claiming to be God... and as far as we are aware, he never bothered with the ritual cleansing necessary after touching unclean things (like lepers, bleeding women, the sick, etc).

Of course, there are Christians who are still Jewish. I've been to several such temples and generally find them to be some of the better Christian churches I've attended. Messianic Jews shouldn't be forgotten about.

2007-09-04 04:07:13 · answer #6 · answered by Thought 6 · 4 1

i will provide it a attempt. that is a secret to the Jews that God took the gospel to the Gentiles. And that is even an more desirable secret to the gentiles that Salvation is of the Jews! The bible is clean on that. The Bible says God blinded their eyes ( Jews ) yet no longer perpetually... God had to take out a human beings for his call from the gentiles. God in his countless wisdom knew the international could purely take delivery of into 6 thousand years of Sin and much less. The scriptuers say after Jesus informed them he became into going to be crusified many wouldnt persist with him anymore. God did this as a results of fact he knew the gentiles could usher in idols and their apostasy could carry back Judah the authentic keepers of the regulation and his wisdom on the time of the tip. And hence they Judah ( authentic Jews ) no longer those that reject Christ could have the authentic wisdom of salvation to save the international in the time of the suited harvest. Many diss believing Jews will see the fact and be converted previously its too overdue for them and people who will reject the final message of mercy. wish that helped rather God Bless

2016-10-17 22:11:27 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

He didn't challenge the written laws of Judaism, but he did challenge the oral traditions. He also challenged the corruption of the Temple. What the Jews wanted was a Messiah to lead them out of darkness, and the century after Jesus was especially hard on the Jews, so he did not have a legitimate claim as their Messiah.

2007-09-04 04:02:03 · answer #8 · answered by Steve C 7 · 4 1

He was the King of the Jews and their Messiah....they didn;t believe the very things Jesus taught them about what their own teachings and Scriptures actually meant.

So you are right, He wasn't starting a new religion....Rather, He provided a new revelation into the oldest religion in the world. The religion that started it all, as it is written in Genesis.

2007-09-04 04:03:41 · answer #9 · answered by whitehorse456 5 · 3 2

You don't know your Bible very well, do you?

Jesus showed that the HOUSE of the Jews was to be abandoned. He instituted a new covenant and a covenant for a kingdom with his followers. This was not the status quo of the Law Covenant !!!!!!!!!!!!

By instituting a new covenant, it is obvious that was was old, the Law Covenant (as Jeremiah has foretold) was about to be done in. Jesus said this himself here:

Matt chapter five: (ASV) ". . . one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished. "

TILL ALL THINGS BE ACCOMPLISHED !!!!!!!!!!
^^^^^
Luke 24:44, And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled,
(must needs be fulfilled) !!!!!!!!!
which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me. 45Then opened he their mind, that they might understand the scriptures; 46and he said unto them, Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third day; 47and that repentance (1) and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the (2) nations, beginning from Jerusalem
^^^^^^^

Here Christ explains how all these things were fulfilled, and how the message had to be given even to the gentiles.

DO NOT FORGET that he also warned his disciples to stay in the Jerusalem area until the Helper, the Holy Spirit that God gave Christ -- had arrived.

You are in greatly error. Your source is not from God, but from his enemy. Your teaching sounds as if you do not believe that Jesus is son of God? If you don't, then like all who do not -- the Bible name such the Anti-Christ.

If my assumption is in error, and you do believe Christ to be God's son then I apologize.

2007-09-04 04:18:57 · answer #10 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 0 3

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