If so then please tell me in your own words, how many ways are there to "misunderstand" the following verses?
2:216 - Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you.
9:29 - Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
48:29 - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.
2007-09-04 03:22:08 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Muslims that answer and say verses are taken out of context are WRONG! There is no context to the quran. There is no chronological order to the quran. It is NOT in the order that the revelations were given. Muhammad would get a revelation and tell his men in "what surah (chapter) and after what ayat (verse)" to put it. The chapters are arranged according to their length! So do not believe them when you say to read the verse before or after to get the correct context. There is no context. A violent verse is exactly what it says! These so called revelations happened over a 20+ year period, were written on bones, rocks, leaves, leather, whatever they could find, left laying around and not compiled until AFTER Muhammad was dead. How reliable is that?!
God Bless.
2007-09-04 04:10:27 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Way to take the verses out of context, chump. Read the whole chapter or at least more verses that come before and after it. You're not fooling anyone except for the ignorant and those who already have a preconceived hate for Islam. Oops, that's about everyone. When you take such verses out of context, there is no choice BUT to misunderstand them, like you have just proven.
For example, "The prince killed the man ruthlessly". What impression do you get from that? Now let's finish the story.
"The evil man swung his sword savagely at the prince, aiming at his heart. The prince wielded his sword skillfully in haste. Just as the man's sword would pierce his skin, the prince killed the man ruthlessly. He had saved both his family and his own life with the death of the assassin."
I could do that with the Bible: "Think not that I have come to send peace. I come not to send peace, but a sword." --Matthew 10:34.
Now I ask, Christians: Is Christianity Really a Religion of Peace?
Don't worry, I know I took that verse out of context to serve my own purpose just as you did, and I do not really mean it. I'm just trying to teach you a valuable lesson. So stop spreading the hate.
2007-09-04 03:45:04 · answer #2 · answered by Omer 5 · 0⤊ 4⤋
I see kyyrrad didnt even answer the question and was just talking complete nonscence. Instead of explaining these verses, to comply with the way muslim portray their religion - peaceful - you just blame 'americans' for persecution or whatever.
Im not american but i would love to have those verses explained to me, because if they are written in teh Koran - hehe woopsi quaran, then I cannot see how they can be interperated in a way that means their meaning is for peace. The all seem pretty violent to me ...
*edit - and wigginspray, yes we cna all see how that can be interperated but again, how can the above verses not be taken literally, or mean violence.
2007-09-04 03:30:16 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
It really sad that you manage to find these verse yet not read the Quran. In your attempt to look clever and smart you are just shown to be bigots:
2:216? Try reading the next verse:
They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein. (Quran 2:217)
OPPRESSION IS WORSE THAN SLAUGHTER! 2:216 is clearly telling them to defend themselves and not to be afraid of death!
9:29? Go back to 9:13 and you find:
Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!
TOOK THE AGGRESSIVE TO FIRST ASSAULT YOU! Again self defence!
48:29? Simply means don't take no crap from no one!
2007-09-04 03:52:02 · answer #4 · answered by By Any Means Necessary 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I am a Christian so I certainly cannot account for all Muslims but I would say allot of them are people who would like peace. But as you have asked in your question is Islam peace, this is where people get it all mixed up. They look at the Muslims who like peace and not at the Koran. After reading the Koran I saw how it justifies war and killing, peace cannot be found in its pages unless it is directed at Muslims them selves. In other words unless you are a Muslim you will not have peace. We must always go to the source of people beliefs to have our questions answered. I could say this, if Christians like my self started killing in the name of Jesus would Christianity be a religion of peace. Even if the Majority did so?
No Christianity would still be peace for we are told to love our enemies.
Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.
Any one who is acting against these words is not performing a CHristian act. Our source calls for peace and love.
2007-09-04 03:38:48 · answer #5 · answered by Michael M 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:5
"Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:9:29
"So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:8:39
"He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"
Ishaq:324
"Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."
Qur'an:9:123
"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought."
Muslim:C9B1N31
And the verse which most accurately describes the true nature of Islam:
"By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta'if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant."
Tabari IX:25
2007-09-04 03:30:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 2⤋
Islam is a religion of hate, not peace. Its all a bunch of lies to gain the trust of the American people. They are coming into America and setting up their groups and just recently they opened up a school in New York and the American people paid for it with their taxes. It is a school of Islam and only Islam is allowed to attend. I mean come on, What are our govt. leaders thinking? Invite the Enemy in and let them live and go to school here and let us pay of it. Don't they realize what they are doing? Islam will eventually attack us from within and the govt. is just standing there letting it happen! That is their whole agenda, and they are doing it now as we speak.
2007-09-04 03:43:09 · answer #7 · answered by sparkplug 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Sound the alarm, Awake the king,
the kingdom is under attack from a phantom menace,
the shadow of death has them vs them all surroundead,
and they're all hell bent on being faithful unto death(law).
Jewish Warriors, Muslim Warriors, X-ian Warriors?
G-d, Allah, Jehovah ... all speak of "God on high",
the awful lawful Midst God who can & will kill them all,
both them all on the left and them all on the right side.
POINT: the side effect of sides wars is death, not life.
Above such law vs law it's all right and no left(behind) at all.
That God, of this/that Gods, is light, and no darkness at all.
The God of all grace (no law) is grace us, not awful lawful.
There's no dis-comfort "the God of all comfort": GRACE.
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2007-09-04 03:38:20 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
This is an interesting link comparing the amount of violence in the Bible and the Quran. It's all the same that's why we can't mix religion with politics it just makes no sense..
2007-09-04 03:33:23 · answer #9 · answered by CC 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Religion is based on an irrational, altruistic metaphysical premise. All religious knowledge and morality is consequently irrational. When a person can't promote their irrational ideas by communicating verbally they have to resort to physical force and violence. There is no religion that is peaceful.
2007-09-04 03:28:46 · answer #10 · answered by Chuck Biscuits 3 · 1⤊ 4⤋