Could you imagine the worldwide conflict against Christianity..?

Question

if 19 Christians hijacked those airplanes on September 11th.

I still find it hard to believe how atheists can forget about 9/11/01 commited by demented Islamic radicals, but they still condemn Christians for the Crusades that happened nearly 1900 years ago.

There is something that makes unbelievers despise only Christianity. If you are smart enough, you will see that well over 60% of these posts are mostly condemning or slamming the Christian religion.

Hatred is the opposite of Love. And Jesus was about Love and Compassion. "Love your enemies," "Pray for those who will curse at you."

How could a person hate the words that Jesus spoke?

Allah spoke about his true believers killing in his name and they will be blessed with 72 virgins.

Why do unbelievers ignore these verses in the Qu'ran, but they are always keeping a critical eye on the Old Testament?

What's the deal with unbelievers? Why are you so disgusted with a religion that preaches love and kindness?

Answer 1

Hatred is not the opposite of love, apathy is. Failing to care is the opposite of love. Quite often hatred is not refusing to love, it is rejecting the loved because they make themselves impossible to reach with compassion.

As to Jesus, I doubt many atheists have hatred against much if anything he is purported to have said. But, that said, once you strip away the religious content, what he had to say adds very little to the world dialogue.

No one is rejecting love and kindness as a social positive, they are rejecting Christianity and the Christian message.

Where Jesus does add to the global dialogue is in saying there is no "out group." We are a single family and it is immoral to treat anyone as an outsider. He is not strictly unique in this message, but his method of telling the message is a bit more effective.

Further, Christian terrorists do exist and they are hunted down. One would have to ignore the news to not find substantial Christian terrorist acts.

Atheists are pretty uniform in rejecting all superstitions, such as Christianity, Reike, Wicca, Islam, Hinduism, Mithraism and Zeus worship.

Also, some words Jesus spoke are in fact immoral, if you think about them as an outsider. If Jesus is not God, then much of what he had to say is worthless. It adds no value. It helps nothing. It does in some cases, do harm and has done harm in history.

The message Jesus' followers left can be condensed down to:

If you are going to live a communal existence (which Americans reject by the way both culturally and constitutionally) then the only rational goal is ultimate connectivity. The emotion of connectivity (giving sympathy to others) is love. Therefore love of neighbor, and everyone is your neighbor, should be the highest ultimate goal. Since God is real in Jesus' eyes, he would be the ultimate neighbor, the father and creator of all. Only through compassion and forgiveness can this communal existence occur.

This of course ignores autonomy based societies such as the United States and it is a strategy against control based societies such as Rome.

Christianity was so successful in the Roman Empire because passive cooperation is a valid strategy against active violence and control. Of course, Constantine's lifting the ban and returning three hundred years of seized property had a profound impact too. Once Christianity was a success strategy in both the control and the cooperative modes, a mixed strategy to use game theoretic terms, it took off as the dominant religion.

It is a mistake to believe that Christianity became the state religion under Constantine. That is far from the truth, but it did become legal and powerful due to three hundred years of compound interest on property returns plus the transfer effects on the people who the Christian's kicked out.

Christianity has thrived in the United States because America is primarily an autonomy based system, permitting any ideology to thrive. But it fractured in the sixteenth century and is disintegrating from within. The communal existence which supported it is only present in any measurable way in the Catholic and Orthodox churches. When Protestants do not get along, they split and form new denominations. Unless Protestantism dies, I doubt Christianity can survive.

That may be a good thing and it may be a bad thing. People seem to be pretty quick in forming religions. They spring up quite a bit. There are worse religions than Christianity. If Christianity dies, the world may not be better off from the superstition which takes its place.

Answer 2

Can I enlighten you a little? That's a rhetorical question, of course, because I already know the answer.

First off, I don't think anyone is forgetting about what happened on 9/11, but maybe those of us who understand that it was committed by "demented Islamic radicals" realize that they were just that and can move on.

Second, I know that I am not blaming you personally for the Crusades and I doubt anyone is condemning Christianity solely on that point. More likely they're poining out that Christianity does not have a pristine track record as far as the whole love and kindness thing goes. See also the Inquisition.

I don't believe that atheists in general despise Christianity. A small group of what might be dubbed 'reactionary athiests' espouse those sentiments, but they harldy qualify as even a significant minority. Your tone and general attitude, as evidenced by your insistence on labeling them unbelievers, may cause many to express enmity towards you, but this should not be taken as animosity towards Christianity as a whole.

I will concede the point that Jesus was about love and compassion. Given time, I might present an argument otherwise, but frankly it makes little difference. For the most part, the message of Jesus was love, compassion, and equality and was not dependant on him being the "son of God." However, this message has been twisted by the Church to suit their needs. You say love your enemies, but do you really love them? Or is more it along the lines of "I love you so much, I want you to think exactly like me"? (because that's not love, my friend)

I'd like to go on, but I'm getting long winded here and you've probably lost interest already. Point is, atheists aren't disgusted by a religion that preaches love and kindness. Quite honestly, they probably wouldn't give a damn about it if its practicioners didn't keep shoving it in their face.

Answer 3

Christians are in the overwhelming majority on this planet. The churches around the world are either tax excempt or receive tax payer money. Non-believers get threatened and insulted on a daily basis, just for trying to explore the mysteries of our world and the universe we exist in. Exactly what can a Middle Eastern Bronze Age book tell us about plants or physics or trigonometry or gravity etc. that modern science can't?

Answer 4

Not to throw stone for stone but Jesus said "Bring my enemies before me and kill them before me" (Luke 19:27). He also said "Think not that I come to send peace on Earth. I come not to send peace, but with a sword" (Matthew 10:34). Some Christians could take that the wrong way and start terrorist groups themselves. I have not seen the 72 virgins thing in the Qur'an. Maybe your speaking about one of the many Hadiths that are out there. Remember, the Qur'an is the word of GOD through the Angel Gabriel. The Hadith is just a collection of accounts some say they saw Muhammad saying or doing. These account were not checked for accuracy before they were written down.
In conclusion: A knife can be used for cutting meat, vegetables, or fruit to feed a family or it can be used for murder. Religion is the same way. You can use it for peace or chaos. There are good and bad examples of Christains and Muslims.
Christains: Good-Bishop T.D. Jakes, Bad-David Korresh or Jim Jones
Muslims: Good- Imam Warrith Dean Muhammad, Bad-Osama Bin Lauden and the Taliban
Consider the similarities in the different faiths instead of the differences. Were stuck on this planet together whether we like it or not. We might as well get along.

Answer 5

I am not sure where you get the idea that because some atheists disagree with Christianity they condone religious violence from Islam followers. I see plenty of posts where Islamic beliefs or practices are called into question. I myself have done so questioning how they can say Islam promotes women's rights with recent honor slayings of women for relatively minor offenses. I think your characterization is therefore faulty. For the record I do not condone violence in any belief system. You may have the impression that Christianity is picked on more here because of the greater percentage of people from Christianity dominated society. I think Yahoo users on here tend to be mostly westerners. Thus, Christianity is more frequently discussed.

Answer 6

Had a Christian sect seized airliners full of innocent travelers and driven them into skyscrapers, killing nearly 3000 people, shouting "Praise Jesus" instead of ""Allah Akbar," the world would be justified in condemning the ideology that prompted such murderous carnage and mayhem. Real Christians would be the first to express their outrage, loudly and continually, just as they condemned past evil organizations with some tenuous connection to Christianity, such as the KKK, driving them underground or into obscurity.

It's time for Christians to stop apologizing for the Crusades. Historian H. W. Crocker wrote:

"Medieval knights took that responsibility seriously, wore the cross on their capes and tunics, and prayed and understood an incarnational faith that acted in the world. It was these knights’ defensive war—and the defensive war of the Church and its allies up through the 18th century, for a millennium of Western history—that repelled Islamic aggression and kept western Europe free. For that we should be ashamed? No: It is one of the glories that was Christendom that in the Middle Ages the pope could wave his field marshal’s baton and knights from as far away as Norway—not to mention England, France, and Germany—would come to serve. . . . Today, because of Islamic terror groups, the West is again strapping on its armor. We shouldn’t be ashamed of our predecessors who were compelled to do the same."

Answer 7

Christianity can be very hypocritical as there are many christians who rejoice in others pain like the pope and Fred pehlps and other bigots, that's also evil that these two monsters preach but it's always about the muslims who say similar yet some christians expect automatic immunity for these evils, I've seen this before and these types will never see how hypocritical that they are. I will condemn anything I think is evil no matter which religion

Answer 8

"If you are smart enough, you will see that well over 60% of these posts are mostly condemning or slamming the Christian religion."
Actually I think you'll find the majority are much like this piece of crap, written by a xian (or a Muslim who is not making himself very clear) trying to take on The Victim role in a country where y'all almost control the all the power.
The Victim role is currently a bit over used by Muslims cos they're pretty hard-done by, NOT.

Where are all the moderate Muslims?

"Hatred is the opposite of Love."
WRONG, mate.
The opposite of Love is FEAR.
Hatred fuels fear.

(Steve Alten) Fear & Religion - Religion & Fear? The two are historically intertwined; the catalyst for most of the atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels hatred, hatred fuels evil, evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a diabolical cycle and we have played into the Devil’s hand.

Answer 9

Im an atheist and I agree with you.

It just blows me away, to see all the apologetics and bending over these people do for Islamists. On so many levels, its literally a stroll into insanity...bizarro world....twilight zone.

What could be more obvious, than the rampant hatred and intolerance that characterizes Islam and its self righteous members...theres just no denying it. Once you study Islam however, the picture becomes crytal clear. The doctrines are far and away the most violent and intolerant in all religious history, and maybe of all human history.

Answer 10

60% of these posts are mostly condemning or slamming the Christian religion.

They killed our Lord, and His followers, marytr/witnesses to His resurrection and Deity.

Did He promise us a rose garden here on this sin-cursed planet? What did we expect???

We will have no complaints in heaven, with God forever, untouched by the hurts of this nightmare!

When we die, we wake to reality. We "can't take this (evil) with us"! Thank you Jesus for Your Sacrifice for our sins.

Praise God!!!