Matthew 18:21-22 "Then Peter came up and said to him, 'Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?' Jesus said to him, 'I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.'"
Can you disfellowship a person and have them re-enstated 7X77 equals 539 times? If you make them wait a year for the elders to believe, through his proof that he is truely repentant?
2007-09-03 16:25:54 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
OOPs Kate...well I cant spell or add, but you get the point.
2007-09-03 16:31:35 · update #1
TeeM...You and I both know that you have to pay pennance to the Brothers...Average first time for re-instatement is 1 year at the back of a Kingdom Hall without any friends or anyone even able to say how are you doing.....2nd time 2 or more years...By the way..God has forgiven me and I do not need to prove that to any human..nuff said? I am now a Saved daughter of God..and RE-Baptized as a true Christian..can I get an aaaamen?
2007-09-03 16:37:11 · update #2
JR........NOT!
2007-09-03 16:43:48 · update #3
EDIT; Let me point out that, as usual...there isn ot a single direct answer to the question at hand form our Witness friends.
2007-09-04 02:36:11 · update #4
There are few people who could live long enough for this. Adam, Enoch and Methusaleh would be the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head!
2007-09-04 01:20:42 · answer #1 · answered by Buzz s 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What Matthew is talking about is forgiving your fellow brother after all the mistakes he made. This is sorta irrelevant to a congregation matter because a person has to prove hes repentant before hes able to come back into the congregation. If you are truly repentant, it shouldn't matter how long you have to wait to be reinstated
So is he allowed how many times he wants? Sure, but he still has to repent.
2007-09-03 23:36:16 · answer #2 · answered by VMO 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Matthew 18:21-22 has nothing to do with 1 Corinthians 5:13. That must be why you call this a dumb question.
Hannah J Paul
2007-09-04 08:00:10 · answer #3 · answered by Hannah J Paul 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Wow, this anti-JW actually ADMITS SHE BLOCKS the #1 JW on Yahoo Answers. If that JW really lies, share the proof. His answers sure ring true to me, and I'm not even a JW (yet). I guess the anti-JWs don't like inconvenent answers interfering with thier pity party trash talk.
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I'm going to add that to every JW question by this girl, so thanks for the hobby. Now she'll ban me too I bet.
Anyway, Peter and Jesus were talking about when somebody sins agaisnt another person. Real Christians have to forgive if they want forgiveness on Judgement Day.
JW elders don't disfellowship a person for sinning like that, against a person. If you curse at someone, or masturbate instead of having sex with your wife, your not getting disfellowshipped for that but you still hope the other person forgives you. Disfellowshipping is about sins against God, about something the bible says is serious. Like fornication but not cursing. Apostasy but not masturbation.
2007-09-04 16:46:12 · answer #4 · answered by Al 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
a hyperbole.
Jesus wanted to impress upon Peter that the idea of even keeping an account of the number of offenses was ridiculous. Who is going to keep a ledger of even 77 offenses, let alone hundreds?
2007-09-04 09:37:55 · answer #5 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Generally speaking, if your brother wrongs you, and realizes he's in error......asks forgiveness, and means it; you must forgive him.
And according to Jesus, bare no malice if he forgets and repeats the action.
Forgiveness is the key point here. Malice only hurts him who carries it.
You must therefore forgive as often as it is sincerely requested.
2007-09-03 23:35:22 · answer #6 · answered by Wisdom 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It's 70 x 7 which is 490...?
But where does everybody have Jehovah's Witnesses come to their doors? Just outta curiosity. I've moved to roughly 15 different places in my life and never had one come up to my door.
Lol I wasn't making fun of you.. I was just seeing if I misread it honestly
2007-09-03 23:30:35 · answer #7 · answered by Kate 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
If a person is truly repentant then he can be 're-enstated' a million times.. No person is ever completely irredeemable in the eyes of god, or the church.
2007-09-03 23:34:20 · answer #8 · answered by LadyCatherine 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The JW's are pretty confused at times.
True story....they came knocking at my door, waking me up from a midday nap. I answered half asleep, and what came out of my mouth was pure truth of scripture. I preached to THEM for about 10 minutes, to which they then said 'Ok, have a nice day' and walked away.
When you have the Word in your heart, and can preach the Gospel in and out of season, it keeps the 'enemy' at bay. :-)
2007-09-03 23:33:52 · answer #9 · answered by witnessnbr1 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
So when are you going to ask for forgiveness, so that you can return to worshipping Jehovah in spirit and truth?
It only takes once.
2007-09-03 23:33:15 · answer #10 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋