I am a Christian(straight) - and I think it seems that homosexuality is being viewed as more sinful than other sins, and aren't they all sins and doesn't God hate all sins? and yet Christians hold up God Hates Fags signs and all - and God doesn't hate them at all. He hates their sin, but He hates ALL SIN. any time Christians do things like that - it makes the divide between Christians and gays worse. Many Christians feel like there is no way they could ever be gay - but if God's hand weren't protecting you - you could be just as gay - so many of these people have been sexually abused - and many of them by pastors and church people and for them to be getting all this anger from Christians is just not the way to go. I hear it all the time on Christian radio. The other day I heard this - "We hope we can convnce the gays that we are right and they are wrong" - that sums up the attitude. But instead - I think we should be trying to convince gays that we love them. right?
2007-09-03
14:38:50
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I think once we see that gay people are People and have value to God and that God can use them to be a blessing to us, and if we would just take the time to LISTEN to them, you'd see that they aren't just these people out there to destory the world - like Christian radio keeps saying. I agree with what is said about the gay agenda, but that isn't everyone, and most people are just trying to get through each day like each of us is, and I am just trying to help bridge the gap a little bit. They are of value to God and God loves them just like He loves you. This stuff that "talk to me when you get saved:" is a bunch of garbage. Jesus loved people where they were at and we need to do the same thing.
not everyone is like this - I know - it's just an observation,.. Some Christians do love gays - butmost are too repulsed by the lifestyle to even try to befriend them, and if you don't have any gay friends you don't have a right to say anything in my mind. at least that's how I think
2007-09-03
14:42:15 ·
update #1
I think this is part smoke screen - the Christian Media and the Republican party focus on Abortion and Gay Marriage, so they can NEGLECT SO MANY OTHER ISSUES. - there's good reason to focus on abortion and gay marriage but not to the exclusion of everything else. There is something that they are hiding. I don't know what - but something.
2007-09-03
15:10:49 ·
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I think people become gay because of sexual abuse primarily but masturbation plays a big part in this also I think. I think if a person purposely chose to stop doing this, they may find that the opposite sex may be appealing to them. so I don't think this is a permanent thing, and something that's because of genetics. I think that violence plays a big part in all this. If people quit sexually abusing children, then less people will become gay in my opinion.
2007-09-03
15:14:40 ·
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what proof is there that you are born gay - even if you are born with a pre-disposition - that doesn't men you necessarily will be. Like My father was an alcoholic, his father was an alcoholic, his father was an alcoholic, then I should be right? I'm not. I have 2 brothers, one is, and one is not. so we had the same dad, 2 of the 3 don't drink. then shouldn't we all be alcoholics? same is true with this gay gene thing.
2007-09-03
15:17:09 ·
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I'll tell you all this - when my wife died, all the church people vanished, and nobody knew what to say - and all my gay friends showed me more kindness than most of the church people did. So gay people really do have a heart and they can be valuable to you. You never know when your gay friend will be there and all the church people will vanish when times get hard for you.
please note, I am not gay
2007-09-03
15:19:56 ·
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You are right. Homosexuality is a sin to us Christians, but we should not treat them with so much disrespect. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to judge them for their choice. We all have free will. I'd say as far as sins go that the seven deadly sins are far worse than being a homosexual. In my own opinion, I think sins such as murder and adultery are far worse than homosexuality. Mark 29-31 tells us that our top two commandments are to:
1. Love God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength
2. Love thy neighbor as thyself
Take a look at number 2 here. For those who look down on homosexuals (or anyone else for that matter), are they following number 2 of God's top commandments? No. We must not only avoid sin, but we must also follow His word. Christians who don't show their love for homosexuals are not being Christian to the full extent of His commandments.
Yes we should show our love to them. They deserve love. Everyone does.
2007-09-03 14:54:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Ur right. I believe God created everyone. To me, homosexuality isn't a sin. Who would choose this? IF it was a choice and they believed it was a sin, would they just become asexual instead of homosexual? No one would wish to be a minority in the group. But they are and caN't help it. Why should people hide who they are? That's not what god wants. Why is promiscuity ok with Christians, but homosexuality is forbidden? They're both a sin, except one is with the opposite gender, and frequent amoung the unmarried, and the other is between the same sex. Christians are one of the most judgemental people I've ever met. This goes for all religious fanatics, and they're not going to reap the rewards of God. HE hates it when people use his words for evil means. He's right, the door is very narrow, and few will walk through...but this especially includes fake Christians...because they rarely ask forgiveness and mean it, because y should they for doing God's work?
2007-09-03 14:50:14
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answered by Uncertain Soul 6
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Those who single out homosexuality as "worse" than other sins are displaying severe ignorance in their theology, if not religious-themed bigotry. Sins are sins.....period. Homosexual behaviour is no more sinful than pornographic lust, or adultery, or rape, or theft, or murder, or lying. The same sacrifice (Jesus) was given for all sinners, regardless of their particular lifestyle.
I really think a lot of the loud voices come from two main camps: those trying to combat all of the liberal, humanistic philosophy (being forced down our throats by politicians and the media), and those who are insecure and afraid of people whose sins are "different" from their own.
The first group is actually fighting an ideological cultural battle, which is being waged AGAINST them ("Being Gay is cool, and if you think otherwise, you're an ideological relic that the world will be better off without.").
The second group THINKS they are part of group #1, but they come across as crass and hateful: their vitreol is inspired by fear and insecurity. This kind of person is looking for a way to put someone else's sins down, so they don't have to concentrate on their own (and so deal with it). The abusive language is a dead giveaway! After all, logic would dictate that if God hated "fags", then He would also hate "masturbaters", "abortionists", "thieves", and "liars", but these folks obviously haven't thought things out that far!
My Amish neighbors have an expression: "Hate the sin, but love the sinner". We could do with a lot more of that in this country!
2007-09-03 15:11:09
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answered by MamaBear 6
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It's because most people don't ever feel the desire to commit that sin. It's easy to judge others than yourself. I can't remember the last time I remember hearing Christians ranting and raving about gluttonous people, greedy, people, or prideful people getting married. I was raised in a very religious environment then joined the military right after high school, so my first exposure to open homosexuals was when I was a prison guard in college. That didn't help my opinion of them and it wasn't until I met a lot of folks in the music scene that I realized gays were good normal people just like me. It's really actually kind of sad. Homosexuals seem to really have a hard time being accepted in a lot of settings.
2007-09-03 15:02:37
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answered by Anonymous
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I do understand what you are trying to say...
You do need to understand, however, that the issue of homosexuality has become a very vocal one, not because of Christians who are so set against it, but because of the huge movement on the part of gays and their friends to legalize gay marriage.
Alot of folks feel threatened by the idea of gay marriage. They feel as if allowing homosexuals to legally marry would strike at the very core of their own family values...and I tend to agree with them. Sex is a very precious gift from God...it is the beginning of each of us. But for every gift God gives us, Satan has a twisted substitute...indeed, when it comes to sex, he has SEVERAL twisted substitutes...
I wouldn't mind so much giving gays the right to marry...if they would just keep their sex lives private. Another "gay pride" parade, and I think I'll just throw up all over the nearest guy in his "naked suit" that I see...in fact, I may just go out of my way to find one.
It really isn't that I think their sin is worse than mine...however, I am not proud of my sins, and I'm not about to flaunt them in a "festival"...
Right??
2007-09-03 15:03:45
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, few other sins, like homosexual behavior, are specifically singled out in the Bible as an abomination before God. In any event, any sin - even the tiniest white lie you told your wife about her dinner last night to make her feel good - is sufficient to send you to the lake of fire for an eternity of torment. We can only grasp such overwhelming consequences by getting a glimpse at how immeasurably righteous and just and perfect God is. We are also therefore reminded how tremendously wonderful Christ's sacrifice was for us!
Nevertheless, homosexual behavior is a forgiveable sin, like so many others -- thank you, Jesus! I would say the worst sin is blasphame against the Holy Spirit, for this sin is unforgiveable. Like it says in Heb. 6:4-6, Christ died once for our sins. So, to be saved, receive the Holy Spirit, then sincerely and utterly reject Him, is the way to get a one way ticket to hell.
2007-09-04 08:00:59
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answered by BowtiePasta 6
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Homosexuality is Not Viewed as the Worst. Sinning against the Holy Spirit is. Folk who were Into such relationships have found their way onto the Narrow Road leading to Everlasting Life. The Apostle Paul threw it in with other things 1 Cor. 6:9-11: “Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean, but you have been sanctified, but you have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.” (Regardless of such a background, if persons now abandon their former unclean practices, apply Jehovah’s righteous standards, and exercise faith in his provision for forgiveness of sins through Christ, they can enjoy a clean standing before God. After reforming, they may be welcomed in the Christian congregation.)
2007-09-03 15:10:12
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answered by conundrum 7
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The sin of homosexuality is no blacker than my sin. And if the Christian truly hated homosexuals, they would keep the message of salvation to themselves, not try to change them, and let them go on their merry way to destruction. But because we care, we take the slings and arrows of 90% of the media and public to speak the truth.
God loves the individual, however, their behavior and life choice will lead them into bondage that will harden their hearts to God's eternal salvation. Because Homosexuality involves so much emotional investment, it is almost impossible to tell the them the truth without being labeled with very harsh epithets.
2007-09-03 14:48:55
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answered by Anonymous
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It is NOT worse than any other sin.
But it is NO BETTER than any other sin!
The difference is that we do not have murderers marching in the streets demanding special 'rights' to their sinful practice because they were 'born this way!' We do not have burglars trying to pass legislation making it illegal to teach the clear Biblical message "Thou shalt not steal."
And no Rape Advocates are trying to make the Christian Community declare that their sin is acceptable, wholesome, and good!
The 'homonazis' are the people we confront most militantly. We WILL NOT be forced to say their sin is good, and we will confront their efforts to rebuild society in their own image.
2007-09-03 15:08:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, first off, I do agree with you about this particular flavor of sin being singled out in our culture. Yes, as an ex-gay Christian man, I have come to learn, sometimes with some personal pain involved, that there's quite a few reasons for this:
1) The Apostle Paul in Romans 1 makes an excellent argument that all sin (the fruit, pardon the pun) is the result of the root; a thankless unbelieving heart. Therefore all sins come from the same source, the power of Sin, a capital "S", as in Romans 5-8, in distinction to the lower case "s", the specific acts. Therefore, not one act is more heinous than another in His sight, although some have more consequences in this life.
2) This leads to my second point. The Apostle Paul didn't just mention homoerotic acts first randomly. Rather, he mentions it first not because it's the worst sin, by no means, but because it is such a salient and clear understanding and sign to a partiicular culture that there is indeed something going wrong in it. Let me use the example of a car with the battery light and engine light coming on while one is driving it. Homosexuality is like these lights. Something's desperately wrong here? Is it these lights? No, of course not, but there's something seriously wrong with the entire system of that car now, maybe as a result of some other defect that needs to be diagnosed by a mechanic, right? So, that's why I believe the Apostle Paul mentions this sinful act first, since natural revelation tells us so saliently that this is a warning. What other distortion is there than what clearly goes against nature in human sexuality?
3) Now, the problem is that unless believers have a mature view and understanding about the nature of sin, Romans 1 will not be understood correctly. This more mature view sees that the problem with humanity is "Sin", with "sin" being more a symptom of the first, then as much as a problem in itself, just as the fruit is in respect to the root. If there isn't this understanding, then sins that are most salient in nature get scapegoated, or seen as more heinous. They will also be feared much more, because one will incorrectly assign a greater power to them than others. As a result, there isn't as much confidence in the church in the power of the gospel to free and heal someone in such sins. I believe that this is what has happened much of the time with American Christians.
4) Of course, then you have the gay parade flamboyant angry gays who love to flaunt their gender bender brokeness and sexual sin before us Christians and the world. I believe this is a passive aggressive reaction to #3's problem. This is just like adding phosphorous and lighting fluid to fires of fear and anger against those in bondage to such sins. In turn, those in this bondage believe that they can claim they are primarily victims of our culture, rather than as really being victims of the power of Sin, like everyone else, and no more so. They deceive themselves that much more into thinking that they are the product of a homophobic society, not understanding the spiritual war going on, just a flesh and blood one.
I guess the answer is that we need to understand our desperate state better before our Lord and Savior (that it will always be no different than anyone else's in this life, no matter how vile these others appear to us), and therefore learn much more about the riches of His grace!
As a side note, part of what you are seeing about gay folks is their sensitive relational nature (much like John, the disciple whom Jesus loved!). Of course, this is the strength of this personalty trait. However, when they perceive themselves being abandonned, mocked, etc. (this doesn't have to be necessarily so, just the perception that they are), they tend to react more pridefully than others, since relatioinships mean so much to them. There is a credible theory that one becomes sexually attacted to the same sex because of experiencing hurt and relational pain with the same sex parent, role model and/or peers. It's called defensive detachment, leaving them without experiencing the same sex love needs that others get somehow.
Well, I'm sure there's more factors, but this'll do for now. I hope it helps.
2007-09-04 11:05:12
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answered by Tom 4
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