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did god give him a new body to show to his apostles? or did he rise in spirit? from my memory ( and jw theology) wasnt it in spirit? and if so,,,, then please explain LUKE 24:39 "See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold that I have."



taken from the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

2007-09-03 13:44:19 · 12 answers · asked by ~testube Jebus~ 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

to LINEDANCER
the kjb " Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have".


so, the only difference is that it replaces the work spirit with ghost. but the concept is the same.

2007-09-03 14:13:33 · update #1

12 answers

The Watchtower organization says that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body he died* . Instead, it says that He rose as a spirit creature and that the material body of Jesus was taken away by God the Father. Therefore, they deny the physical resurrection of Christ.

If Jesus is not raised, then our faith is in vain. - 1 Cor. 15:14

In other words, if Jesus did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is a waste of time and we are then still dead in our sins. It is obvious that the doctrine of the resurrection of Jesus is a vital and essential element of Christianity.

But what of the Jehovah’s Witnesses? Are they accurate in their assessment of Jesus’ resurrection in denying the bodily resurrection but affirming a "spiritual" resurrection?

In John 2:19-21 that Jesus said He would raise Himself from the dead.

Jesus answered, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" But He was speaking of the temple of His body.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus' own words here.

Every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. - 1 John 4:3

2007-09-03 13:51:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5 5

1 Cor 15: 35But someone will say, "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?"

Sounds like the question you asked.

How did Paul answer his own question?

36You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies;

42So also is the resurrection of the dead It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body;

44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

45So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL " The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.



So Paul tells us that those who go to Heaven have spirit bodies.

That Jesus became a life-giving spirit.

Just as angels have produced bodies that can eat and drink, Jesus could produce a body that had holes in his hands and feet.

You will notice in the proceeding verses of

Luke 23: 36While they were telling these things, He Himself stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be to you."
37But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit.

Similar verse:

John 20:19So when it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be with you."

Jesus appeared in a room in which the doors were shut, one bible even said 'locked'.

19 Therefore, when it was late on that day, the first of the week, and, although the doors were locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them: “May YOU have peace.”

Again just as angels materialized fleshly bodies, Jesus was able to do so, so that his disciples could see and hear him.

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2007-09-03 16:28:22 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 3 1

god is a thing that is nothing like it. christians said jesus is god or part of god or the body of god or the son of god,,, with no proof. jesus was born from a mother no father, Adam the fist human had no father & no mother, which creation is more complex? jesus used to eat food & answer the call of nature as any human, read the bible & you'll find out more . he had great miracles but it doesn't mean he is god ....... jesus was raised bodily to the heaven , today u can see many astronauts in orbit ,, for sure god have a much more advanced tools to get jesus there....

2016-05-20 22:18:24 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

You nailed Lesbifriends!

The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”
So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. JESUS CAME, THE DOORS BEING SHUT, AND STOOD IN THE MIDST, AND SAID, “PEACE TO YOU!” THEN HE SAID TO THOMAS, “REACH YOUR FINGER HERE, AND LOOK AT MY HANDS; AND REACH YOUR HAND HERE, AND PUT IT INTO MY SIDE. DO NOT BE UNBELIEVING BUT BELIEVING.” John 20:25-27

The JW's haven't read through the entire Bible so they only quote verses that they were taught to. Since JW's are nothing more than modern day Pharisees...

Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. Matt. 22:29

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hos. 4:6

2007-09-07 07:43:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

--GOOD QUESTION!

--THERE ARE 2 possibilities:
1. THAT he was resurrected as an earthly person with a different body, being that no one recognized him , except by his prayer and habits!--YET able as a super-human change form!
(BUT he could not have been raised up a spirit, which is contradictory to what the scriptures referenced below state)

2. That he was brought back as a life giving spirit and able to materialize in different human personages
-----THE DISOBEDIENT angels(demons) were at one time able to materialize as in Noah's day(Gen 6:1-4) and marry many women and bred the nephelim, so they transformed themselves into humans!
(Jude 6) “6 And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day. . .”
--------SO INDEED they were blood & flesh!
======
--BUT THE SCRIPTURES show clearly that he was better than the demons in super powers by being INCORRUPTABLE & IMMORTAL IN make-up at his resurrection
(1 Peter 3:18) “18 Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead YOU to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being MADE ALIVE (my caps) in the SPIRIT [“by the Spirit,” KJ; “in the spirit,” RS, NE, Dy, JB]

--1 Cor. 15:42,
(1 Corinthians 15:42-43) “42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised up in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised up in power.....
45 “It is even so written: ‘The first man Adam became a living soul.’ The last Adam [Jesus Christ, who was perfect as was Adam when created] became A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT..... (my caps)
.....50) “. . .However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. . .”
--SO UNLIKE THE DEMONS , that dematerialized, Jesus was raised as immortal & incorruptable(spirit) and entity unto himself, by Jehovah God's hands ,in the resurrecting of him! Thus he could appear in different bodily bodily forms!
--IF HE WERE a human he could not have been IMMORTAL & INCORRUPTABLE, for no human will ever have immortality & perfect incorruption!

2007-09-03 14:10:10 · answer #5 · answered by THA 5 · 6 2

The Bible plainly says that Jesus was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. -1Pet 3:18

Some translations unfortunately mistranslate that verse by saying that Jesus was made alive "by the spirit" instead of "in the spirit." It should be evident by the context that Peter was contrasting Jesus' fleshly existence with his spirit existence after his resurrection. The verse goes on to say that in that state (in the spirit) Jesus "went his way and preached to the spirits in prison." Regardless of what you might think the spirits in prison represents, it should be obvious that Jesus had to have been a spirit in order to deliver a message to those spirits.

However, the apostles could not at first comprehend the heavenly, spiritual nature of God's kingdom. They thought in physical terms—as do many would-be Bible interpreters today.

The apostles never would have grasped that Jesus had gone to heaven unless he first materialized before them, cloaking himself in flesh to first convince them he was alive, and then, afterwards, ascending to heaven in their view. However, long after Jesus had returned to heaven he appeared to Paul. In that encounter, Jesus was definitely not human. He was a spirit more glorious in appearance than the sun. In fact, Paul was blinded for three days by the close encounter he had with Christ on the road to Damascus.

Jesus appeared to his disciples on many occasions after his resurrection. In each instance he appeared in a different body that his disciples did not recognize. In each instance, the disciples were called upon to recognize Christ for what he said rather than by his appearance. Jehovah forced them to think in terms of the spirit rather than by fleshly sight. The only exception was when Jesus appeared on one occasion bearing the marks of his impalement, which was done specifically to confront Thomas, who had previously announced that he would never accept the evidence of Christ's resurrection unless he could personally feel his wounds.

2007-09-04 02:29:51 · answer #6 · answered by keiichi 6 · 4 1

LineDancer, THA, Conundrum, TeeM, Keiichi and Heiss...
all gave Scriptual, TruthFul answers.
All 6 are are in harmony w/ each other.
As the entire inspired word of God is.
Do u see / discern the impossibility here,
of 6 different ppl, different walks of life,
living in different parts of the country (most likely)
all giving the same truthful answer?
It's bc we are taught by one (1) God,
the one true God,
the Sovereign of the universe,
YHWH.
Who cannot lie.
This being said,
not a 1 of these men are wrong in their answer,
bc the answer came from God's written word.
This is called unity, harmony.
J's W's search out the truth,
and find it w/ Jehovah's blessing.

2007-09-06 01:09:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4 3

I Peter 3: 18.." Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.” .. enough said.
Concerning Jesus, now “made alive in the spirit,” Peter writes at 1 Peter 3:19, 20: “In this state also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days.” According to Jude 6, those spirits were “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place” in the heavens. They took on fleshly bodies in order to enjoy illicit sex relations with women. (2 Peter 2:4)

What about the bodies in which Jesus appeared after his resurrection? He manifested himself on one occasion in a body that had wounds into which Thomas was able to place his hands to prove that Jesus was the same person, resurrected, whom Thomas had known as the Master. But if Jesus took his human body to heaven to keep these wounds forever, this would be contrary to God’s laws governing fleshly bodies and their ability to repair themselves. Moreover, if Jesus sacrificed his human body for the life of the world and then took it back, retaining it for himself, he could not offer such merit before God in behalf of others. The ransom would be taken back, leaving mankind still in their sins.

So these bodies that Jesus appeared in after his resurrection were materialized bodies. Similar instances occurred in ancient times, such as when the three men visited and ate with Abraham, and those appearing to Lot, in each case being angels who materialized in the form of men. Jesus’ materialized bodies were signs, evidences to eyewitnesses proving he had been resurrected according to the promise of Jehovah God.—Gen. 18:1-22; 19:1-16; John 20:29-31.

The proofs that these were bodies materialized for the occasion are many. Mary, when she first saw Jesus after his resurrection, did not recognize him, thinking that he must be the gardener. On the road to Emmaus, he was recognized by his manners and actions, not by his facial features. (John 20:14-16; Luke 24:13-32; Mark 16:12) When he materialized a body with wound marks to convince the doubtful Thomas, Jesus appeared in a room with locked doors. (John 20:26-28) This shows that he could materialize and dematerialize a body instantaneously. Scientists claim the ability to make material substance out of pure energy. How easy for the power of the resurrected Jesus, then, to materialize a body!

Your Questions ALWAYS seem Personal. I Wonder WHY?

2007-09-03 14:25:37 · answer #8 · answered by conundrum 7 · 4 2

Jehovah's Witnesses believe the bible to quite plainly teach that Jesus was resurrected to heavenly life rather than to a human life.

(1 Peter 3:18) Christ died once for all time... he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.

(1 Timothy 3:16) He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.


The bible quite plainly teaches that flesh and blood bodies cannot attain heaven.

(1 Corinthians 15:44-50) It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body... flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom.

(2 Corinthians 5:1-8) In fact, we who are in this tent [that is, in earthly bodies] groan, being weighed down; because we want, not to put it off, but to put on the other, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. ...while we have our home in the body, we are absent from the Lord... But we are of good courage and are well pleased rather to become absent from the body and to make our home with the Lord.


Many Scriptures indicate that spirit creatures could materialize as humans during bible times, so it is unsurprising that Jesus did so for several weeks after his resurrection. Materializing would allow Jesus to provide needed strengthening and upbuilding to the apostles and disciples, but those goals would not require Jesus to re-animate the fleshly body which had been impaled and which had died. Regarding the fact that Jesus materialized in a new human body, it is noteworthy that many or most of those who had walked alongside Jesus for years even did not recognize Jesus until he began to speak in his familiar manner. The fact that his materialized body reproduced the wounds of Jesus' impalement would allow many of those disciples to serve as powerful eyewitnesses to skeptical non-Christians largely unfamiliar with the idea of a heavenly resurrection.

(John 20:14-16) [Mary Magdalene] turned back and viewed Jesus standing, but she did not discern it was Jesus. ...She, imagining it was the gardener, said to him: “Sir, if you have carried him off, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.”

(John 21:4-7) Jesus stood on the beach, but the disciples did not, of course, discern that it was Jesus. Then Jesus said to them: “Young children, YOU do not have anything to eat, do you?” ...He said to them: “Cast the net on the right side of the boat and YOU will find [some].” ...[John] said to Peter: “It is the Lord!” Hence Simon Peter, upon hearing that it was the Lord...

(Luke 24:30-32) And as he was reclining with them at the meal he took the loaf, blessed it, broke it and began to hand it to them. At that their eyes were fully opened and they recognized him

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20010315/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19980315/article_01.htm

http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_03.htm

2007-09-04 08:35:04 · answer #9 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 5 2

We do not restrict ourselves to the NWT. I invite you to compare what other translations say with the NWT. The message is the same.

Schneb says: "The Watchtower organization says that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body he died* . Instead, it says that He rose as a spirit creature and that the material body of Jesus was taken away by God the Father. Therefore, they deny the physical resurrection of Christ.

"But what of the Jehovah’s Witnesses? Are they accurate in their assessment of Jesus’ resurrection in denying the bodily resurrection but affirming a "spiritual" resurrection?

"In John 2:19-21 that Jesus said He would raise Himself from the dead.

"Jesus answered, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" But He was speaking of the temple of His body.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus' own words here."

Is the information SHNEB copied-and-pasted from an anti-witness website correct? Did Jesus raise himself from the dead? NO! As Gal. 1:1 says: "Paul, an apostle, neither from men nor through a man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him up from the dead." So, Jesus did NOT raise himself from the dead. God the Father is the one who brought Jesus back to life.

Was Jesus resurrected in a spirit or a fleshly body? 1 Pet. 3:18 says: "Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit."

So, as regards Jesus’ resurrection, Peter says that “in the spirit he was brought to life.” This explains why on the resurrection morning when God’s angel rolled the stone from the door of the sepulcher the soldier guards did not see Jesus rise from the dead and come out, although they did see the materialized angel. (Matt. 28:1-4) This explains why, when the resurrected Jesus met two disciples walking that day to Emmaus and went along with them and started to take supper with them, they did not know him until he began to serve the bread; and then he disappeared.—Luke 24:13-35.

This explains why, when the apostles and other disciples were met together in Jerusalem behind closed doors for fear of the fanatical Jews, Jesus must have come right through the walls. For he amazingly stood right in among them, and, after eating and talking with them, he vanished from them, but not through any unbolted door. (Luke 24:36-44; John 20:19-24) Of course, for Jesus, who had been brought to life in the spirit, to make himself visible to his disciples, he had to materialize on each occasion a body of flesh and bones. Jesus himself then said: “A spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have.” Since the flesh-and-bones disciples could not see what was not flesh and bones, they could not see a spirit and they could not see the resurrected Jesus, who was “in the spirit.” Luke 24:39.

Because Jesus did not mention blood, he did not mean a spirit has blood like that of a human person. When we feel a person, as his disciples then felt Jesus, we do not feel blood, but we feel the flesh and the bones, especially bones in the hands, the feet and the chest. A fleshly body without bones would just collapse.

Humans cannot see spirits, so the disciples evidently thought they were seeing an apparition or a vision. (Look Mark 6:49, 50.) Jesus assured them that he was no apparition; they could see his body of flesh and could touch him, feeling the bones; he also ate in their presence. Similarly, in the past, angels had materialized in order to be seen by men; they had eaten, and some had even married and fathered children. (Gen. 6:4; 19:1-3) Following his resurrection, Jesus did not always appear in the same body of flesh (perhaps to reinforce in their minds the fact that he was then a spirit), and so he was not immediately recognized even by his close associates. (John 20:14, 15; 21:4-7) However, by his repeatedly appearing to them in materialized bodies and then saying and doing things that they would identify with the Jesus they knew, he strengthened their faith in the fact that he truly had been resurrected from the dead.

It must be noted that when Jesus first appeared to Mary, no mention is made of his hand and side wound. She did not recognize Jesus at first. She thought he was a gardener. She soon recognized Jesus by what he said to her, NOT by his outward appearance. John 20:16

2007-09-03 13:58:10 · answer #10 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 9 4

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