http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070903/ap_on_re_eu/ireland_black_students so much for school vouchers! i guess they don't have separation of church and state there!, i hope we still do?
2007-09-03 10:44:16 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Firstly that statistics about 98% of schools being run by the Roman Catholic Church is wrong. They may have a representative on the board of the local vocational board but nothing more.
I went to school in rural Ireland, I went to schools that were founded by Catholic orders but are now run by parents and teachers, a representative of the local council and a representative of the religions in the area, which included Jehovah Witnesses and Church of Ireland(Episcopalians).
Ireland does have a shortage of school places and in Dublin people book in their child eight to nine months I know of one (public) school who book in two years advance.
Also in the article it said how a white family that moved in that year got their child in, they may have booked their place before they moved, possibly the reason why they moved was because of the school. This has been reported widely in Ireland.
The law he mentions about allowing discrimination only relates to private schools, which by and large are non-denominational. Any school that is financed by the Department of Education must accept all students, even if they were founded or run by Catholic orders.
This is a case for underfunding in primary education in Ireland which up until recently has been focused on secondary and third-level education.
School vouchers would not go down well in Ireland since we believe education should be provided by the state whatever the cost.
2007-09-03 21:57:29 · answer #1 · answered by eorpach_agus_eireannach 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The school voucher system in Wisconsin started in the black community, not the conservative political community. Blacks had fought for many years to improve the school system in Milwaukee. After much frustration, they decided that there was a need for alternative education. Many believe that unless there is an alternative that the public schools would never change. This is a question that has cut across political lines. Both parties are split on this plan, but it is working.
2007-09-03 11:00:04 · answer #2 · answered by Bibs 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
False. There is no reason why I should meet someone but that the particular period where he and I meet, we, but that, by the various other reasons we are there, meet accidentally and out of chance. You poem is imparting a rather idiotic view of the universe, that it was somehow ordered to my convenience, to teach me, to the detriment of actually working and being processes independent of some grand design. It becomes an egocentric universe, a universe made and tailored for me. Your poem, in fact, turns people into tools for your use, learning tools, but tools all the same, which dehumanises them. Thus, if I were to meet people for a reason, by destiny or whatever, and the universe was designed for that purpose, then that person can never become more than a tool- he serves his reason, and when his reason is exhausted, then this 'designer' deign to cast away this tool of learning, and provide another didactic tool.
2016-05-20 06:03:04 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well it says that 98% of schools are run by the Catholic church. This section of Ireland is traditionally Catholic. If the Irish gov't wishes to cede their scholls to one religion, that is their decision.
They ovbiously need more schools.
Not a US problem at all, unless you count the fact that many of our finest Universities were founded by religious orders originally.
2007-09-03 10:57:22 · answer #4 · answered by maxmom 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The articles has nothing to do with America...but it is disturbing...
Though I didn't see anything about separation of church and state there...
2007-09-03 10:48:32 · answer #5 · answered by Matt M 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Same here. When I read that I thought I had traveled back to the 1950s. Of course not only do we have racial discrimination at work here, we have religious discrimination. I'm not sure which one is worse.
2007-09-03 10:49:56 · answer #6 · answered by Purdey EP 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I'm still trying to determine whether I am a conservative or a liberal. I think I am very Republican, but also very liberal. I dislike democracy, and I dislike much of the religious right.
2007-09-03 11:07:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
There is a seperation of church and state. Rev.Albert those same people lived when slavery and racism was condoned. Should we allow that to? No we should NOT bring religion into schools. Yes. We do have a seperation of church and state. Constitution ring a bell dear?
Edit:Give me all the thumbs down you want.
2007-09-03 10:49:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 5⤋
Neither do we have Seperation of church & state here in America...you must have gotten a public school education.
" It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible". - George Washington
" The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty". -- Thomas Jefferson"
"That Book (the Bible), sir, is the Rock on which our Republic rests". - Andrew Jackson
"It is God who gave us life and liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are a gift from God?" - Thomas Jefferson
"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God and to obey His will". -- George Washington
" We stake the whole future history of this nation upon the ablility of its people to govern & control themselves according to the 10 Commandments". -- James Madison ...Chief Archetect of the US Constistution and 2nd Pres. of US.
2007-09-03 10:47:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 6⤋
Darlin', if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you . . .
2007-09-03 10:53:22 · answer #10 · answered by Devoted1 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋